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BODYSHOP FEETURES
Posts: 571
Nashville, Tennessee, US


What image hosting sites Protect the copyright of the photographer.  In Tumblers terms and conditions it clearly says that members must agree to allow Tumblr to use and of my images if they wish to without gaining my permission.  I don't like this idea.

So what image hosting sites protect and respect the photographers copyright and also provide for high resolution images (or do not limit the size of the images posted).

Thanx
Aug 25 13 01:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
L A U B E N H E I M E R
Posts: 8,468
Seattle, Washington, US


BODYSHOP  FEETURES wrote:
What image hosting sites Protect the copyright of the photographer.  In Tumblers terms and conditions it clearly says that members must agree to allow Tumblr to use and of my images if they wish to without gaining my permission.  I don't like this idea.

So what image hosting sites protect and respect the photographers copyright and also provide for high resolution images (or do not limit the size of the images posted).

Thanx

tumblr needs your permission in order to be able to host your images on their site, so you can use their site.

Aug 25 13 02:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Abbitt Photography
Posts: 11,411
Oakland Acres, Iowa, US


I find in general, that the free or very cheap sites are more likely to demand more liberal usage rights in exchanging for hosting images.

I think sites like smugmug and zenfolio don't demand such usage, but check the current terms of any site you consider.
Aug 25 13 02:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
pullins photography
Posts: 5,877
Troy, Michigan, US


BODYSHOP  FEETURES wrote:
What image hosting sites Protect the copyright of the photographer.  In Tumblers terms and conditions it clearly says that members must agree to allow Tumblr to use and of my images if they wish to without gaining my permission.  I don't like this idea.

So what image hosting sites protect and respect the photographers copyright and also provide for high resolution images (or do not limit the size of the images posted).

Thanx

none I know of...if you want to protect the image, then watermark it up to make it unusable

Aug 25 13 02:29 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
L A U B E N H E I M E R
Posts: 8,468
Seattle, Washington, US


pullins photography wrote:

none I know of...if you want to protect the image, then watermark it up to make it unusable

that's not protecting the image, that's destroying it.

Aug 25 13 02:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
C.C. Holdings
Posts: 594
New York, New York, US


it depends on what your end goal is


a lot of advise here is for people marketing their name, watermarks help with that, not everyone's business plan is like that though or even requires a social presence. so watermarks are counterproductive

Tumblr and most sites grant itself an unlimited license to sublicense, but not nullifying your copyright
Aug 25 13 02:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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PS201
Posts: 188
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom


Dropbox terms of service:

Your Stuff & Your Privacy

By using our Services you provide us with information, files, and folders that you submit to Dropbox (together, “your stuff”). You retain full ownership to your stuff. We don’t claim any ownership to any of it. These Terms do not grant us any rights to your stuff or intellectual property except for the limited rights that are needed to run the Services, as explained below.

We may need your permission to do things you ask us to do with your stuff, for example, hosting your files, or sharing them at your direction. This includes product features visible to you, for example, image thumbnails or document previews. It also includes design choices we make to technically administer our Services, for example, how we redundantly backup data to keep it safe. You give us the permissions we need to do those things solely to provide the Services. This permission also extends to trusted third parties we work with to provide the Services, for example Amazon, which provides our storage space (again, only to provide the Services).


And busines Agreement section 6 item 1:

Intellectual Property Rights.

    Reservation of Rights. THIS AGREEMENT DOES NOT GRANT DROPBOX ANY RIGHTS TO CUSTOMER'S OR END USERS' FILES OR THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS EMBODIED IN THOSE FILES EXCEPT FOR THE LIMITED RIGHTS EXPRESSLY SET FORTH IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT ARE NEEDED TO RUN THE SERVICES. This Agreement does not grant Customer or End Users (i) any rights to the Intellectual Property Rights in the Services or (ii) any rights to use the Dropbox trademarks, logos, domain names, or other brand features. "Intellectual Property Rights" means current and future worldwide rights under patent, copyright, trade secret, trademark, moral rights, and other similar rights.
Aug 25 13 03:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Leonard Gee Photography
Posts: 16,101
Sacramento, California, US


BODYSHOP  FEETURES wrote:
So what image hosting sites protect and respect the photographers copyright and also provide for high resolution images (or do not limit the size of the images posted).

Did you read any of this?

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Aug 25 13 04:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mikey McMichaels
Posts: 2,004
New York, New York, US


BODYSHOP  FEETURES wrote:
What image hosting sites Protect the copyright of the photographer.  In Tumblers terms and conditions it clearly says that members must agree to allow Tumblr to use and of my images if they wish to without gaining my permission.  I don't like this idea.

So what image hosting sites protect and respect the photographers copyright and also provide for high resolution images (or do not limit the size of the images posted).

Thanx

The reason to put your photos on Tumblr is so that people can see them and then reblog them. Tumblr can't display your photos if you don't give them permission for that.

As far as protecting your copyright, they have been the best and most responsive of any organization at protecting mine even without sending a DMCA takedown.

I sent an email regarding one user who did that repeatedly. They asked a few reasonable questions to ensure I was not misrepresenting myself and ever since then any similar problem has been dealt with in 12 hours or less. It's clear that preventing this type of abuse is a priority to them.


My advice is to split your photos into two categories. First is photos that will be used to generate income, second is photos that will be used to generate publicity and build your brand. Then post only the second ones and don't worry about what happens.

Instead of spending money on advertising, give an "instant refund" to anyone who uses the. "Spend" your advertising money on "refunding" the licensing fees you would have gotten.

Everyone knows that the "plumbers" who don't work for free spend money on advertising.

Aug 25 13 04:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Charlie-CNP
Posts: 2,608
New York, New York, US


OP: short answer: NONE....     

slightly elongated answer: you are technically granting any site that you post on rights to use your images how they see fit when you agree to their TOS (by creating an account most of the time).

bottom line: if an image is posted on the internet anywhere, expect people to do their worst, and hope for the best. If you don't want sites and people doing things with your image, don't post them online. good luck
Aug 25 13 05:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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DAN CRUIKSHANK
Posts: 1,786
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


500px is good.

Or you can make a simple webpage to host your own images.
I use squarespace.com
Aug 25 13 05:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark Salo
Posts: 8,152
Olney, Maryland, US


BODYSHOP  FEETURES wrote:
So what image hosting sites protect and respect the photographers copyright and also provide for high resolution images (or do not limit the size of the images posted).

Why do people who worry about copyright infringement post high resolution images on the internet?

Aug 25 13 05:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Michael Fryd
Posts: 3,606
Miami Beach, Florida, US


BODYSHOP  FEETURES wrote:
What image hosting sites Protect the copyright of the photographer.  In Tumblers terms and conditions it clearly says that members must agree to allow Tumblr to use and of my images if they wish to without gaining my permission.  I don't like this idea.

So what image hosting sites protect and respect the photographers copyright and also provide for high resolution images (or do not limit the size of the images posted).

Thanx

Find someone who knows a little bit about web design, and roll your own web site.  You can buy hosting services from just about anyone (I even sell them). 

When it's your own web site, you don't have to license your images to anyone else.

Aug 25 13 07:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BODYSHOP FEETURES
Posts: 571
Nashville, Tennessee, US


Thanx to all for the useful information.

Mark
Aug 26 13 06:02 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
B R U N E S C I
Posts: 25,319
Bath, England, United Kingdom


Tumblr's T&Cs are broadly in line with pretty much every other social network. Even sites like MM have similar clauses to allow them to put your photos on the internet and share them with the companies who run their content delivery networks etc.

You can interpret the T&Cs of almost any website in a paranoid manner, assuming they want to try to steal your work, or you can take the longer view and use that website for your own greater benefit.


Just my $0.02

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Stefano

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Aug 26 13 06:49 am  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
Posts: 35,122
San Francisco, California, US


BODYSHOP  FEETURES wrote:
What image hosting sites Protect the copyright of the photographer.  In Tumblers terms and conditions it clearly says that members must agree to allow Tumblr to use and of my images if they wish to without gaining my permission.  I don't like this idea.

So what image hosting sites protect and respect the photographers copyright and also provide for high resolution images (or do not limit the size of the images posted).

Thanx
Michael Fryd wrote:
Find someone who knows a little bit about web design, and roll your own web site.  You can buy hosting services from just about anyone (I even sell them). 

When it's your own web site, you don't have to license your images to anyone else.

I agree.  Other than posting a few images on sites like MM, I own my own servers and host my own domains.  When I post images they are fully under my own control.  I don't grant licenses to any sites like Tumblr.

Aug 26 13 07:23 am  Link  Quote 
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