Stephanie_Bee wrote:
"send me a nude picture of you"

Okay...if you really want me to!

(haha...j/k)

Stephanie_Bee wrote:
This has happened to me a few times, photographers asking for an underwear picture or nude picture to be sent prior to setting up a shoot. I'm under the impression that portfolios are partly there to show what models look like, so shouldn't that be sufficient? I have recent pictures up, and they certainly aren't fully clothed. Today I even had someone say it's so they can plan poses? I've also had someone say that it's so they know what I'm comfortable with..
What are other peoples thoughts on this??

This could really go either way.  Depending on what type of shoot the photographer is planning, it could be necessary to see more than what you currently have in your port.  You have no nude images at all and the ones in underwear and lingerie are still covering a lot up.  If it was a paid nude shoot, I would also need to see a bit more to decide whether there was going to be any serious retouching issues.

On the other hand, it is also entirely possible that someone just wants to add some nude selfies to their collection. 

Not helpful, I know.  But true nonetheless.

T-D-L wrote:
I assume you're talking to photographers about setting up a nude shoot, based on the "Shoot Nudes = Yes" part of your profile.  I don't see an issue with someone wanting to see you nude before they book you for such a shoot.  For some people they might be a bit picky on how you look, and don't want to waste their time.

+1 on that.  If a photographer is going to book you for a nude shoot, it is perfectly reasonable for him to want to see you nude in advance.  Models often look different with their clothes off.

On the other hand, if they are asking you for a nude shot for a fashion shoot, that would be inappropriate.

T-D-L wrote:
I assume you're talking to photographers about setting up a nude shoot, based on the "Shoot Nudes = Yes" part of your profile.  I don't see an issue with someone wanting to see you nude before they book you for such a shoot.  For some people they might be a bit picky on how you look, and don't want to waste their time. 

Ex. I've booked a model for a nude concept that had saggy breasts...never knew because all the photos she had she was wearing a bra at minimum.  Some models have horrid scars from implants, birthmarks, stretch marks, nipples pointing in random directions, etc.  So no, I don't see an issue with someone asking for a nude photo before they shoot you (again, assuming they're booking you for a nude shoot), especially since you don't have any examples of nudes in your portfolio currently.  If you had I'd be more inclined to agree that sending examples would be unnecessary though.

+1 .

Stephanie_Bee wrote:
This has happened to me a few times, photographers asking for an underwear picture or nude picture to be sent prior to setting up a shoot. I'm under the impression that portfolios are partly there to show what models look like, so shouldn't that be sufficient? I have recent pictures up, and they certainly aren't fully clothed. Today I even had someone say it's so they can plan poses? I've also had someone say that it's so they know what I'm comfortable with..
What are other peoples thoughts on this??

For a normal shoot you are correct your avi should let anyone see your shape.  If its for a nude casting that is a little different, as you have none in your portfolio that really isn't sufficient.

I would worry that you have never actually done any before and would be a mess on set if you even showed.  Certainly I would not cast you if I shot nudes, I probably would not even msg you for one or consider your interest in a casting.

GPS Studio Services wrote:

T-D-L wrote:
+1 on that.  If a photographer is going to book you for a nude shoot, it is perfectly reasonable for him to want to see you nude in advance.  Models often look different with their clothes off.

On the other hand, if they are asking you for a nude shot for a fashion shoot, that would be inappropriate.

Agreed, mostly if they show some semblance of professionalism beforehand. One was for a bikini shoot!

Stephanie_Bee wrote:

Agreed, mostly if they show some semblance of professionalism beforehand. One was for a bikini shoot!

If for a bikini shoot then standard polaroids are more than acceptable (ie. front and side with a bikini on).  That person was just a creeper lol

AJScalzitti wrote:
I would worry that you have never actually done any before and would be a mess on set if you even showed.  Certainly I would not cast you if I shot nudes, I probably would not even msg you for one or consider your interest in a casting.

Nice critique?
Edit: By the way, I have shot nudes before, I have just asked not to be credited because of social commentary that I'm glad I did, but I'm not sure I'd like to be permanently associated with yet.

Stephanie_Bee wrote:
This has happened to me a few times, photographers asking for an underwear picture or nude picture to be sent prior to setting up a shoot. I'm under the impression that portfolios are partly there to show what models look like, so shouldn't that be sufficient? I have recent pictures up, and they certainly aren't fully clothed. Today I even had someone say it's so they can plan poses? I've also had someone say that it's so they know what I'm comfortable with..
What are other peoples thoughts on this??

The first time I ever hired and shot with a model nude, I went based on her port. It turned out later that most of the images in her port were taken when she was 18 or 19... She was 26, and she'd had 2 kids in the interim... That taught me a valuable and early lesson about trusting ports... Even if the picture is uploaded recently, that doesn't mean it was taken recently. Even if it was taken only a month or two prior, things can change in that time. Even if it was taken a week or two prior, a shot in a port might be Photoshopped... Some of the worst shoots I've ever had happened because I trusted the photos in a port.

I sometimes ask for shots in lingerie or nude so I know roughly how she's going to look when she shows up to pose. If it's a new model that has never posed nude before, it also tells me that she's comfortable with the idea of there being nude photos of her, me seeing her nude, and having photos of her nude. In that regard, it can be a screen for cold-feet.

This is not something I always ask for and this is not something that I necessarily consider a deal-breaker, but some days it really helps.

Not too long ago a woman approached me on another site wanting to shoot nudes. There were no pictures on her profile that showed any meaningful portion of her face or body because she was concerned about privacy. I asked her to send me some photos, preferably nudes if she wanted to be shot nude. She was nervous at first and I assured her that these images would never be shown to anyone else and would only serve to show me how she looked. She agreed to send them. We've shot three times now.

Stephanie_Bee wrote:

Nice critique?
Edit: By the way, I have shot nudes before, I have just asked not to be credited because of social commentary that I'm glad I did, but I'm not sure I'd like to be permanently associated with yet.

if your face is visible, then you are permanently associated with them

Julia Francesca  wrote:
say as a policy you do not send nude selfies to potential clients due to the fact that people have acted inappropriately about them in the past, that's what i do.

Me too!

Julia Francesca  wrote:
Hey we have similar avatars! Haha! Avi twins! (I've been drinking)

Haha, I like you.

MDWM wrote:
if your face is visible, then you are permanently associated with them

Goes without saying.

Stephanie_Bee wrote:
Nice critique?
Edit: By the way, I have shot nudes before, I have just asked not to be credited because of social commentary that I'm glad I did, but I'm not sure I'd like to be permanently associated with yet.

No critique, I was saying I would not cast a model with no nudes in their portfolio for a nude shoot.  For that matter I would not cast a model with no lifestyle images for a lifestyle shoot.

I shoot beauty and I think you have an interesting look for it, but saying that would be a critique that I am not allowed to do

apjjj236 wrote:
My opinion they got sone horny ass "photographers" out there and some dumb chicks who fuel them.

The fun part is figuring out which is legit

GPS Studio Services wrote:
If a photographer is going to book you for a nude shoot, it is perfectly reasonable for him to want to see you nude in advance.  Models often look different with their clothes off.

+1

I won't even risk wasting my time shooting trade nudes with a model unless has has nudes in her portfolio or is willing to send me some. There's just too much potential for nasty surprises otherwise.

GPS Studio Services wrote:
On the other hand, if they are asking you for a nude shot for a fashion shoot, that would be inappropriate.

What about fashion nudes?



Just my $0.02 etc. etc.

Stephanie_Bee wrote:
I'm under the impression that a full time and working model, especially if it's someone who wants to/is becoming big/popular, would not want nude selfies out? Am I not trusting enough, or are others too much so?

Have you got something to hide?

I don't mean that as an accusation, but if you're willing to shoot nudes (I'm guessing for pay) then why would you have a problem with sending a photographer (who was proposing to pay you for exactly that) a nude selfie? What's the difference?

If there's some 'issue' that needs to be photoshopped out, then you should be telling the photographer about it before agreeing to take his money anyway. If there isn't an issue and you're willing to pose nude for somebody else and sign a model release saying they can do whatever they want with ALL the pictures taken at the session, then how can a nude 'selfie' be harmful?



Just my $0.02 etc. etc.

T-D-L wrote:
I assume you're talking to photographers about setting up a nude shoot, based on the "Shoot Nudes = Yes" part of your profile.  I don't see an issue with someone wanting to see you nude before they book you for such a shoot.  For some people they might be a bit picky on how you look, and don't want to waste their time. 

Ex. I've booked a model for a nude concept that had saggy breasts...never knew because all the photos she had she was wearing a bra at minimum.  Some models have horrid scars from implants, birthmarks, stretch marks, nipples pointing in random directions, etc.  So no, I don't see an issue with someone asking for a nude photo before they shoot you (again, assuming they're booking you for a nude shoot), especially since you don't have any examples of nudes in your portfolio currently.  If you had I'd be more inclined to agree that sending examples would be unnecessary though.

I would agree with this

A few years back I did the first ( and only )  nude shoot with a young upcoming model who had a strong lingerie and bikini look

the problem ( for both of us ) was that once her clothes came off it was evident that she'd had a very poorly done breast augmentation ..

MDWM wrote:
for models uncomfortable sending nudes. I recommend sending topless with their head cropped out.

That's not going to fly. They want to know it's YOU.

Koryn wrote:

That's not going to fly. They want to know it's YOU.

I send them samples of what I need and it includes a series of photos including bra, implied and topless. Same mirror, same background.

Stephanie_Bee wrote:
^Good idea on the password album.
Honestly I don't just do any nudes with any person, and I don't really think people should (sometimes conservatism comes out of me? it's weird). I accept communicated ideas, and most people come to me with none. I don't want to do nudes for the sake of there being sexy pictures of me, I want to make art with meaning and emotion behind it. To me, these people asking for these photos have shown (to me, maybe it was the way they spoke?) that that is not what they are interested in, and I have declined all offers as such.
The shoot I mentioned not being credited in I'm wearing a burka, so there are all sorts of themes in that leading to my not being sure whether I want my name on it at this time.

I support the idea of being choosy with whom you shoot nudes with, just as I support being choosy with shooting anything with. But, I also think it's completely reasonable for someone considering paying you to shoot nude, to see your nude body in advance of making the decision.

Koryn wrote:
Yes, it's normal.

If you decide to become full-time, at some point, people are going to ask for unedited, cell phone type shots, pretty regularly.

Srefis Limited wrote:
So.. You are marked as you do nudes.. But you don't have a single nude in your portfolio here on MM.. I would ask for a nude photo before I pay you to shoot you for nudes.

why would you expect someone to hire you for a nude shoot without knowing what you actually look like?

always before a shoot i ask for unedited cameraphone shots of the models "current" look and yes if it is a nude shoot, then i ask for nude shots. Most models have no problem with this, I dont judge a look from a portfolio because there may not be any current photos and also there is the possibility of heavy photoshop. If its clothed or swimwear shoot, then i ask for underwear or clothed shots, if its nude and the model is uncomfortable with sending recent nudes then , that may indicate a problem with their comfort level and or could create problems with the shoot? Yes it does help seeing the model nude before a nude shoot for planning and it cuts time on 50 questions of piercings?, tatts?, body type?, body hair?, etc.....If knowing the nude look is essential beforehand for the shoot and the model refuses to send shots, then I cancel the model and move on to the next model.

AJScalzitti wrote:
I would worry that you have never actually done any before and would be a mess on set if you even showed.  Certainly I would not cast you if I shot nudes, I probably would not even msg you for one or consider your interest in a casting.

Stephanie_Bee wrote:
Nice critique?
Edit: By the way, I have shot nudes before, I have just asked not to be credited because of social commentary that I'm glad I did, but I'm not sure I'd like to be permanently associated with yet.

How is that a critic? You state in your profile you do nude but only have a few implied shoots on your credits. the fact you don't have your nudes credited is no where in your profile. Photographer are pretty shitty mind readers.

if it had been a nude shoot then i could understand why, in the lack of proof, they'd want to see nude pics since there is a risk the model might change their mind. For bikini, all they should need is an unretouched bikini shot.