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Is it ok or not, to put some women with weapons in the port.? Need your advice. Thanks. Apr 09 14 10:18 am Link Seems you already have. I have no issue with your personal choice! May be better if they held the weapons correctly but that us my personal taste. Do what you do, -troy Apr 09 14 10:28 am Link Eric SUN wrote: As a creative you have the opportunity to create a visual statement... If it is compelling and consistent possibly your clients may recognize it for it's merits... Apr 10 14 04:31 pm Link Do whatever you want, however some people find it tacky. I for one will never be caught dead holding a gun (or probably a sword) unless the concept is so freaking amazing that not having it would greatly change the image. This is very rarely the case. Apr 10 14 04:44 pm Link I think you will find that there are some models that wouldn't work with you if they saw that sort of pictures in your portfolio. Others would jump at the opportunity. Does it balance out? Apr 10 14 04:49 pm Link Not exciting to me, but some people get off on it. It has been said that women with weapons are the railroad tracks, police tape, or angel wings for the gun freaks, but, oops, that got judgmental, didn't it ? -Don Apr 10 14 04:53 pm Link You obviously like it and there's enough of it out there that others obviously do as well so do what you like. However, I do think it's one of those cheesy cliche type things that is very rarely done well. Apr 10 14 05:47 pm Link I don't see a problem with it as a general rule. However, they wouldn't be aiming a gun at anyone. That's asking for trouble in my opinion. I want to do some myself but I need the other props to go with it. I don't feel just adding a weapon really adds to a shot by itself. A woman with a sword is meaningless, a woman with a sword, royal robe, armor ... that would be more interesting. Just my opinion. Apr 11 14 02:21 am Link Eric SUN wrote: It's okay to include in your portfolio some women with weapons, just like it's okay to include shots of women with railroad tracks. Used well, it's good. But weapons, like rr tracks, are easily done poorly and can be cliche. Apr 14 14 09:00 am Link You, sir, may be an idiot. Background: I am a staunch NRA member and supporter. I hunt. I shoot. But I would never display photographs of a person either aiming a gun at her/himself, nor at the camera. Who in the world do you think you are going to impress with that? Apr 17 14 09:39 pm Link Eric SUN wrote: OK or not is a silly question. There's no such thing as unacceptable art (though I guess there is such a thing as illegal art). That said, weapons are tools, and glamourizing them just seem kind of dumb to me. A photos of a model with a gun makes as much sense as a photo of a model with a crescent wrench. Apr 17 14 09:52 pm Link WCR3 wrote: Maybe he has some female suicide fetish, may I just this one time recommend a knowledgeable escort to check and clear the guns before use. Apr 17 14 10:00 pm Link My opinion of putting a model with a gun is like putting a elevator in a outhouse. It don't belong. But that's just my opinion  .Apr 17 14 10:07 pm Link i don't like yours Apr 17 14 10:08 pm Link I don't have a problem with it if it makes a point, tells a story, or otherwise elicits an emotional or visceral response. Unfortunately most of the girls with guns photos I've seen are just that: girls with guns. Apr 17 14 10:16 pm Link Absolutely not! Apr 17 14 10:24 pm Link Conceivably, it could be done well. I rarely see it done well. It's usually tacky or sick. Apr 18 14 04:02 pm Link Photos of women who clearly have no idea what they are doing with a weapon is akin to putting a tutu on an elephant, it might be amusing once, but pretty silly thereafter. Gimmicks will not get you far. Apr 19 14 05:21 pm Link Paige Thomley wrote: Ditto. Apr 19 14 05:27 pm Link BTHPhoto wrote: I have seen some hot images of greasy women holding crescent wrenches in an industrial setting. Apr 19 14 05:35 pm Link WCR3 wrote: +1 Million Apr 19 14 05:45 pm Link Why not.... Apr 19 14 05:50 pm Link I've been trying to put together a shoot featuring a catapult and siege tower.... Apr 19 14 05:56 pm Link Weapons? Cool. As long as they're naked (the girls, not the weapons) and wrapped in Caution tape for safety. Apr 19 14 06:00 pm Link no Apr 19 14 06:10 pm Link My opinion? They're absolutely ridiculous. Swords, knives, guns, rifles, bow & arrow, etc...just look stupid in the hands of a bikini model. More so when the model is just holding it like she doesn't know what to do with it, or is trying to look tough. I found this photo...  stupid for a number of reasons. One, she's holding a gun to her chin while casually checking herself in the mirror. Two, she's in a bikini...in a car...holding a gun. Three, and this is the best part; the gun looks like the slide is back...meaning the gun is empty. OOOOOOhhhh that's edgy. Worst of all though, is that a lot of the models you've shot with have their finger on the trigger while they're pointing the gun in an unsafe manner. I won't go as far as to flat out call you an idiot (although I do agree with the person who wrote that), but I will say you're being reckless and foolish. From a photographic perspective, all your "Dangerous" images are poorly shot. The composition, lighting, coloring, post-work, exposures, and expressions are all weak. This makes these images that much worse. Apparently you like this kind of garbage, so I'm guessing anything we say won't change that. So, to answer your question...NO. Hope you're keeping a tally. Apr 20 14 12:07 am Link Eric SUN wrote: Your port is yours and the way you market yourself is also your decision. Apr 20 14 02:20 am Link I see using weapons in an image as a trap on multiple levels. Firstly, it is a highly fetishized class of objects. Secondly, people who know what they are doing with a given weapon will be really annoyed by the model mishandling the weapon. Thirdly, people who are against weapons are generally really against weapons. This isn't to say they can't or shouldn't ever be used, just that special attention should be paid if you choose to use them. You have to be aware of and willing to deal with whatever message an image with such will say about you, intentionally or not, knowing it will read very differently to certain audiences. On the whole I would say avoid it unless you have a damn good reason not to. Apr 25 14 11:19 am Link I just can't answer the "why" question on weapons in the shot (for your port), which for me is always a reason to skip doing something. What purpose is being served? Apr 25 14 02:02 pm Link I've heard it said before that "Women ARE Weapons" Apr 25 14 02:10 pm Link Its going to take a pretty special model to be able to convey the emotion (and I'd argue a pretty special photographer to capture that emotion) behind someone feeling the need to put a gun to their head. Your photo at https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/35690500 doesn't even come close to conveying such emotions - which to my mind, makes it nothing more than a tacky, cheap, ill considered gimmick. Sorry, cause I was always told "if you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all" ... but having dealt first hand with suicides and the subsequent impact, this photo has really, really pissed me off as trivialising what is a serious problem. IMHO Apr 27 14 11:36 pm Link Jai2 wrote: +1000 Apr 27 14 11:53 pm Link I've seen concept shots that are well done with models holding firearms see (Dillon Aero) calendars. However most I've seen are just plain stupidly done without a concept and what's worse for me is it's obvious that the model hasn't a clue as to how to hold a firearm. Which says the photographer/director is clueless as well. If you have a concept where a firearm makes sense as a viable prop just make damned sure you know what the hell your are doing. Saying that I've been a custom firearm builder for over 30 years and if a firearm is used as a prop I make damned sure it's presented safely and in a proper manner with a story behind it. In other words if you don't know what you're doing with them leave them the hell alone. Apr 28 14 12:22 am Link Weapons (especially guns) may be the most over-used props on the planet. Certainly more so than caution tape. Gag! It's reached the point where it seems everyone thinks they need a gun shot in their portfolio. That means the cliche is on its way out - or at least it should be. Railroad tracks are fine, if they're used well. Even though photographers have been shooting them since the photos of folksinger Woody Guthrie start appearing in railroad track photos the 1930's, they are also a legitimate compositional element - as long as they're used well. If you have a fresh concept (Jamie Bond, maybe) that requires a gun, that's okay too, if it's done well. But guns no longer add value to a photo just by being there. Besides, the building that houses my leased studio has a no-guns policy. If I found a reason to, I'm sure I could defeat the policy. The guy at the other end of the building has a two-story shop where he makes (nonlethal) high-tech/futuristic weapons for movie production companies - from guns to grenade launchers and from Batmobiles to tanks. If I needed a tank, I'm sure he'd drive it down the hallway to my studio (as long as his client didn't object). Apr 28 14 12:37 am Link A bit cliché for my taste Apr 28 14 12:42 am Link Of course, as long as reasonable safety is followed during the shoot. Apr 28 14 01:16 am Link As others have mentioned, as a gun owner I have a real problem with people pointing guns at themselves or others. Your shots make me cringe. I have a concept on a western nude theme that I would love to do, so I don't have an issue with using guns in photos but they have to add something, and yours don't - Sorry! But, on a positive note at least you're asking. Mind you, the fact that you're asking tells me that in your heart you already know the answer. Regards - Paul Jun 02 14 07:50 am Link If you're concerned about whether, or not, you should put images of women with weapons in your port, you probably shouldn't. For me, I don't care one way or the other. I don't, however, like any image where a weapon is pointed at ones self or someone else. There's a statistic, somewhere, on the number of people who have been killed with "unloaded" guns. Jun 02 14 08:11 am Link Many on Mayhem need to look up the word "model" as a verb. In any business a model must "model" something, mean bring it's best aspects forward. So the question you must ask is "what is your model modeling?" What statement are you trying to make or what story are you trying to tell? Is she holding a weapon because you're shooting promos for a crime thriller? In that case, I fully agree with "Troy," then at least "hold the weapon correctly!" Otherwise it looks amateurish, throw away, and not even good cliche. - Then again, there is always some small niche for T&A titillation, or just your private port, but not on Mayhem. Hey, there are 31-Flavors at Baskin Robbins for a reason. So whatever your flavor is, go for it. Just don't expect to get paid for it. :-) Seems you already have. I have no issue with your personal choice! May be better if they held the weapons correctly but that us my personal taste. Do what you do, -troy Jun 02 14 01:39 pm Link It depends on the woman and what you are trying to portray.   -- Martin Jun 02 14 02:06 pm Link |
