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Pentax MDF - oh my
http://pdnpulse.pdnonline.com/2014/04/n … -8500.html Seriously where are the other MDF shooters (Fred) and why no massive thread about this one yet? Apr 14 14 06:31 pm Link AJScalzitti wrote: They're all in the bathroom, with the camera in one hand and... Apr 14 14 06:39 pm Link Excuse me for a moment while I look for my teeth. I think I lost them when my jaw dropped.  Apr 14 14 07:09 pm Link Ok ... I think I'll sell all my Nikon stuffs & go with Pentax now ... Apr 14 14 07:28 pm Link Like I've been saying all along "Pentax Rules!!" :-)))) Apr 14 14 07:51 pm Link I think the most significant thing is the significant price drop for MFD (I think maybe it still has a crop sensor though?). If this one's successful, I would expect that maybe the price-gouging MFD technology paradigm is heading toward extinction in favor of reasonable (still more than 35mm of course) pricing. Apr 14 14 07:52 pm Link This price is what I'd figured that Pentax was going to sale it for. Nice. Apr 14 14 08:00 pm Link And this baby ain't no studio brick either!! Its as tough as their DSLRs, weather sealed, Mag framed... Apr 14 14 08:05 pm Link Looks like a coffin nail for Hassy no doubt... Apr 14 14 08:09 pm Link Select Models wrote: ... and Phase One !! Apr 14 14 08:10 pm Link Finally a MF camera (crop sensor), true integrated live view and an advanced 27 point AF system ABOVE ALL WITH Liveview AF for true on sensor focusing. Phase One: Single AF point (last Firmware eliminated 2 AF points) NO live view AF. Also you can't shoot in live view mode. You first have to shut off live view. Live view is not smooth. frame rate is quite slow and jittery. OK for focusing on a tripod with a tech camera and a static subject. Single CF card Back $ 35,000 Camera body $ 5,900 Pentax 645Z: 25 cross sensor and 2 non cross sensor AF points Movable liveview AF point. True Live view at twice the frame rate of phase One. You can shoot in live view mode, SHOOTS video up to 60i Dual SD card so you can shoot with redundancy just incase a card fails. Camera $ 8,500 Also the Pentax comes from and industrial giant Ricoh with a very diversified portfolio and deep pockets Phase One now belongs to bankers. However a 44x33 sensor camera with out fast lenses is IMO a bit limiting. One of the benefits of MF is the type of shallow depth of field. Shooting a 44x33 sensor with a normal lens that is not faster than 2.8 is quite limiting as far as look goes. A D800 with a Zeiss Otus 1.4 Apo will IMO will do more than a crop sensor MF camera. 3mm added to each side of your sensor is not a game changer. Apr 14 14 08:25 pm Link The lenses are very well priced too. You could kit out a lense package for a bit over $10K. Apr 14 14 08:38 pm Link Any thoughts on the Pentax being 14-bit whereas the Hassy and P-One are 16? Apr 14 14 08:39 pm Link Steve Korn wrote: Phase One and Hasselblad CMOS 50MP cameras use 14bit files. Apr 14 14 08:48 pm Link The bottom just dropped out on P1 and Hustle Blood. . . Apr 14 14 08:59 pm Link Really going hurt even more when Sony comes out with theirs. Apr 14 14 09:07 pm Link Raoul Isidro Images wrote: They will creep along with tech cameras until Sony makes a MF Mirrorless Apr 14 14 09:17 pm Link Fred Greissing wrote: The 44x33 sensor is 60% larger than 135 / full frame 35mm format. Apr 14 14 09:30 pm Link S-a-P wrote: MF manufacturers love to use surface area rather than linear size. Apr 14 14 10:26 pm Link The price is amazing. Especially for something with 76 seals. Competitively Priced But the biggest thing that differentiates the 645Z from its competitors might be its low price for a medium format camera. When it goes on sale in June 2014, the Pentax 645Z will sell for $8,499.95. In comparison, the Phase IQ250 retails for $34,990, and the Hasselblad H5Dc is selling for $27,500. So, if Sony does come out with a MF camera based on this chip we can safely assume two things - it will undercut the Pentax by thousands, and it won't come out for at least another year. But I still don't see Sony going after the MF market. Apr 15 14 03:38 am Link what is the sync speed on this, i heard only 1/125th? also the lenses... none of them are shutterLeaf that I could tell. Thats what is missing. I thought about waiting for this, for the price you can't beat it (in MF world). But my main concern is that i would buy it and in 6 months regret it and then have wasted $15k (body, lenses, etc). but damn, those rumors became reality. besides price, the big feature i like with this camera is the focusing. Phase One has one point at the moment. Not a big deal, but coming from Nikon D800E where I had 51 points it was easy to keep the body stationary and move the focus points. Now I have to constantly move camera up, lock, and then recompose. Apr 15 14 04:49 am Link Fred, what's the size difference between this 44x33 sensor and a piece of 645 film? From your diagram, it looks to be about 80% the size of the film ... is that about right? Apr 15 14 05:23 am Link That's pretty awesome. Apr 15 14 05:45 am Link GlamourPhotoChicago wrote: 1/125 was on the last (current up until yesterday) 645 Apr 15 14 05:52 am Link 
Photographer Posts: 4288 Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica So I've been shooting with Pentax cameras for 30 years, and I still have a Ricoh 50mm lens. Do you think they'll give me one of these out of loyalty/professional courtesy/self-delusion? Well, I thought it was worth asking...  Apr 15 14 06:06 am Link salvatori. wrote: I still have a non AF 645 with some lens, I really don't know if the old ones are up to the challenge of this new sensor but I don't suspect they are. Apr 15 14 06:20 am Link
Photographer Posts: 4288 Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica AJScalzitti wrote: Well, looks like a win-win for me. If Pentax doesn't give me one, I'll take all your 645 film stuff off your hands... lol Apr 15 14 06:41 am Link salvatori. wrote: lol, I rather like my old camera but for some odd reason I find manual focus more challenging now Apr 15 14 08:03 am Link Nice to see real competition in MF. The prices have to be around this price point as Nikon and Sony are delivering excellent cameras that do more, where the MF have only a few areas they may do better. I don't see the Pentax lenses super sweet as I do see with 35mm cameras. Apr 15 14 08:43 am Link My first film camera was a Pentax. When I went digital I choose Nikon, because Nikon was the King Of Cameras. When I went DLSR I went Canon, because Canon was affordable. And Canon had better catch up, or I might be forced to make the circle complete! Apr 15 14 08:47 am Link This 3:4 ratio is a bit offing for me. I'm used to the 2:3 (wider) ratio of the 24x36mm sensor that produces a taller portrait full frame. This Pentax is going back to almost an 8x10 inch print format (actually 8x10.66 inches). The current 2:3 (24x36mm) would produce an 8x12 inch print. Since I do my own custom printing, I like the taller 17x25.5 inch size for portraits off the 24x36mm format. They look better on the wall being taller. Not too crazy about going back to the squarish variety of old 17x22.66 (or close to the 8x10 era.) that would be off this Pentax MDF sensor. One would have to crop off the sides of the Pentax to match current digital frames and papers and even some wider screens. I like to utilize the entire frame for printing. Apr 15 14 09:28 am Link Zack Zoll wrote: 44 vs 56mm is a 27% increase. Apr 15 14 09:53 am Link ...I want one...  Apr 15 14 09:57 am Link Saw this on another forum.... very funny! Uk price for phase 645df body £4475 (comes with free strap) Apr 15 14 10:06 am Link If there's no leaf shutter then there's no point, it's just a supersized D800  Apr 15 14 10:33 am Link cwwmbm wrote: With the right flash it can high speed sync. Apr 15 14 10:37 am Link Fred Greissing wrote: I can highspeed sync on 35mm as well, and HSS looses powere from the strobe - I actually wanna be able to sync at 1/500-1/800 without jumping through hoops of HSS. Apr 15 14 11:18 am Link cwwmbm wrote: Unfortunately the only reliable system is the Hasselblad H upto 1/800th. Apr 15 14 11:43 am Link cwwmbm wrote: I think you have, in fact, missed the point of MDF in general... Apr 15 14 11:49 am Link OH MY is right... just priced the camera with two lenses that are must haves for me (the 33-55 and 80-160). Cost came to OVER 15 THOUSAND DOLLARS! I don't have a late model BMW or Mercedes just sitting around that I could sell... so I guess I'll be settling for the D800e... Apr 15 14 12:01 pm Link |
