Forums > Photography Talk > My Huge Issue: Camera Shake

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ontherocks

Posts: 23575

Salem, Oregon, US

just crank ISO (and/or shoot wider open) until you have a safe shutter speed (you may need to experiment to find out what that is for you and for your particular lenses).

try to sit or lean against something when possible.

blurriness can be caused by many factors, not just camera shake.

Apr 16 14 06:55 pm Link

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ward

Posts: 6142

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Tripod.

Apr 16 14 06:56 pm Link

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Bob Helm Photography

Posts: 18907

Cherry Hill, New Jersey, US

Use lenses with IS, use higher shutter speeds and try a program called Piccure which is designed to minimize camera movement, trial is free. PS Cloud also has a similar feature.

First, TRY A TRIPOD! Your first mission is to find out what is causing your problem and a tripod is the only thing that takes your camera handling out of the picture. Don't worry about taking great shots of models shoot brick walls, picket fences, buildings- things that do not move. If you are still getting a problem start to look at calibrating the focus of the camera (if it offers that feature).

Trying to do your normal photography without sixing this is a waste of time and a path to frustration.

Apr 16 14 06:59 pm Link

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ImOutOfHere

Posts: 2227

New York, New York, US

Laurence Moan wrote:

Okay. This explains it. Quite normal actually.


Disregard the 2 joints suggestion. In this case, that would be bad medicine.

cool

Lol I was more nervous about cops showing up.  This was in Vegas.  We started off by taking pictures in a parking lot at a mall that was empty.  Security came and kicked us out.  The park was a last resort.  I thought we would get kicked out of there too but it didn't happen thank God.

Apr 16 14 07:04 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Yajhil Alvarez wrote:
I'm shooting with a Canon 70D.  I'm not sure I can get away with a tripod in the street here in LA.  Maybe with a monopod though, maaaaaybe.  I have never used a monopod but maybe it's something I will look into.  It's a lot of stress on me to keep having this issue.  I'm getting paid now and I don't want to let anyone down.

I am not certain if someone addressed this issue in the replies... but... many cameras are able to calibrate the AF to the particular lense.

I am using the Nikon D7000 and it gives me the option to calibrate the AF to the specific lens I am using, which will remember it when I am changing lenses.

Check YouTube for "Focusing issues with the Canon 70D" and something might come up to do a proper adjustment.

Apr 16 14 07:04 pm Link

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Robert Mossack

Posts: 1285

Joplin, Missouri, US

JohnEnger wrote:
Not sure how you hold your camera, but you should always keep your arms close to your body, and use your own body to support your arms. If you hold the camera with your arms away from your body you are more likely to be unsteady. Give it a shot and you'll see. (I'm fairly certain that is what's causing your unsharp images.)
J.

Pretty solid advice here, proper hand holding technique is key. Also, there is a techinque that they teach you when shooting a gun, don't inhale while you squeeze the trigger, rather exhale slowly while gently squeezing the trigger. This works in photography too, slowly exhale while gently pressing the shutter button. It works very well for me.

Apr 16 14 08:53 pm Link

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A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

Monopod

When I shoot with my 135/f2 I get slightly soft images because the lens is heavy and makes my hands shake quite a bit when I'm holding it. When I use the monopod I get sharp photos.

Apr 16 14 09:07 pm Link

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Nat has a username

Posts: 3590

Oakland, California, US

udor wrote:
I am not certain if someone addressed this issue in the replies... but... many cameras are able to calibrate the AF to the particular lense.

I am using the Nikon D7000 and it gives me the option to calibrate the AF to the specific lens I am using, which will remember it when I am changing lenses.

Check YouTube for "Focusing issues with the Canon 70D" and something might come up to do a proper adjustment.

Yeah I was going to ask if it's just with one lens or all? I have hand shaking issues (thyroid/stress) but I also have a few lenses and cameras that don't cooperate no matter what i do. It could also be your sensor starting to crap out (do you have any noise spots? At what iso?), it could be autofocus issues. Are you able to focus manually? (I understand, not ideal for some situations, but I mainly shoot portraits and landscapes/still things) are all lenses you use on your camera creating the same issue?
Also, lenses are all different; I have a nifty 50 that does well f8-f16 and isn't so great below f8 (and another that has no issue at 1.8) Longer lenses usually are better at higher f stops. Etc etc...

Apr 16 14 09:23 pm Link

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Michael Alestra

Posts: 539

MOUNT ROYAL, New Jersey, US

use as fast a shutter as possible up your ISO if you need to maintain a DOF. grain is better than blur.

if its a longer lens, use one that has image stabilization.

use a monopod

use a tripod

as a rule of thumb you should set you shutterspeed the twice to at least the reciprocal focal length (adjust if you use a crop sensor, e.g. crop 70mm use 1/125)

Apr 17 14 04:23 am Link

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scubie

Posts: 50

Worthing, England, United Kingdom

Hi , I just had my 83rd birthday and found my hands not as steady as they were. I found that with full size DSLR combination I was having similar problems, besides the weight and my unsteadyness, I decided to get rid of all my gear and go to Olympus OMD-EM1-- It has made the world of difference to my photography!

For a start so much less weight to carry around, my arms and leg don't get tired, and best of all-- full five axis stabilisation in camera body, and really fast auto focus.It's totally revolutionised my life! Ive been taking low light shots at 1/3 of second, which would have been impossible.

Ok so it was an expensive option but without it I would probably had to have given up photography. I've already had to give up my first love--Fishing, as walking was becoming difficult. I now find I have a slight cataract in my right eye so now have to use left eye to use the viewfinder!!!

I truly think we have to do a bit of lateral thinking , and some unfortunately hard choices. Age is not the best but, I can still shoot beautiful young ladies and drive my Subaru impreza STI, so hey ho.

Apr 17 14 07:57 am Link

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Michael Alestra

Posts: 539

MOUNT ROYAL, New Jersey, US

scubie wrote:
Age is not the best but, I can still shoot beautiful young ladies and drive my Subaru impreza STI, so hey ho.

awesome.

Apr 17 14 08:29 am Link

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FGO FANTASY PHOTO

Posts: 47

Inglewood, California, US

Ronald N. Tan wrote:
End thread.


This thread should have ended long ago.... TRIPOD is all you need if that's not enough set the auto timer on your camera as well, and don't touch it.

There are no Doctor's in here...I find these post hilarious....

Apr 17 14 09:51 am Link

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Orca Bay Images

Posts: 33877

Arcata, California, US

Monopod. You get a lot more quick mobility with a monopod than a tripod. Some places simply won't let you in with a tripod. Far fewer restrictions on monopods.

Someone suggested a cord looped around a foot and attached to the camera via mounting screw. A good substitute for a monopod.

In some situations, hold the camera against a column or wall or railing. Some photographers i know keep a Beany Baby (tiny stuffed animal) or a beanbag for resting the camera on a fence rail or post. The beanbag allows positioning of the camera while maintaining stability.

And if you must go handheld, remember to breathe deep and steady. Holding your breath will quickly induce hand tremors. (I learned that in boot camp on the firing range.)

Apr 17 14 10:13 am Link

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rickspix_uk

Posts: 129

Southend-on-Sea, England, United Kingdom

FGO FANTASY PHOTO wrote:

This thread should have ended long ago.... TRIPOD is all you need if that's not enough set the auto timer on your camera as well, and don't touch it.

There are no Doctor's in here...I find these post hilarious....

Sorry , but it if you dont find it useful just dont read it! But , i have a D7000 and with my 80 - 200 f2.8 and a grip attatched it is damn heavy and I have always had a very poor keep rate using this combo.  Having read this thread I tried various methods of using the strap as a tension tool , and have found a method that suits me and gives as a good a result as using a monopod.

So whilst there are many fore whom it aint new but for some these type of threads do give NEW ideas and methods , so long may they continue .

AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT  , guess what ..... Some of us just dont give a damn !

Apr 17 14 10:23 am Link

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Orca Bay Images

Posts: 33877

Arcata, California, US

FGO FANTASY PHOTO wrote:
Tripod

Ronald N. Tan wrote:
End thread.

Not even close.

Apr 17 14 10:29 am Link

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Francisco Castro

Posts: 2629

Cincinnati, Ohio, US

Paul AI wrote:
A monopod may also be helpful if you need to be a little more mobile. 

What are you shooting with, though?  Some bodies are less forgiving than others when it comes to camera shake.

+1

I use a monopod with a quick release to allow for those quick shooting height changes, and I also use a tilt bracket to allow me to re-orient my camera from landscape to portait.

Apr 17 14 10:33 am Link

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FGO FANTASY PHOTO

Posts: 47

Inglewood, California, US

rickspix_uk wrote:

Sorry , but it if you dont find it useful just dont read it! But , i have a D7000 and with my 80 - 200 f2.8 and a grip attatched it is damn heavy and I have always had a very poor keep rate using this combo.  Having read this thread I tried various methods of using the strap as a tension tool , and have found a method that suits me and gives as a good a result as using a monopod.

So whilst there are many fore whom it aint new but for some these type of threads do give NEW ideas and methods , so long may they continue .

AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT  , guess what ..... Some of us just dont give a damn !

purchase a sturdier tripod....

Apr 17 14 10:43 am Link

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rickspix_uk

Posts: 129

Southend-on-Sea, England, United Kingdom

purchase a sturdier tripod....

Actually I said MONOPOD... if I am doing street photography then using a tripod just isnt a possibility at all and a monopod isnt really ideal either , but you missed the point , which is that SOME people learn from these threads even if you dont !

Apr 17 14 11:08 am Link

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S-a-P

Posts: 232

New York, New York, US

1 - Up your shutter speed

2 - shoot in bursts, often the middle images are steadiest

3 - use your head, press the camera to your forehead for stability

4 - time your breathing to your shutter pressing

5 - get a lens with image stabilization or a camera with IBIS (like Sony a-mount cameras)

6 - consider using a flash or strobe, which freezes the subject on the sensor

Apr 17 14 11:17 am Link

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1472

Posts: 1120

Pembroke Pines, Florida, US

Tripod and is lenses ... Although

Apr 17 14 11:23 am Link

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GeorgeMann

Posts: 1148

Orange, California, US

rickspix_uk wrote:

Sorry , but it if you dont find it useful just dont read it! But , i have a D7000 and with my 80 - 200 f2.8 and a grip attatched it is damn heavy and I have always had a very poor keep rate using this combo.  Having read this thread I tried various methods of using the strap as a tension tool , and have found a method that suits me and gives as a good a result as using a monopod.

So whilst there are many fore whom it aint new but for some these type of threads do give NEW ideas and methods , so long may they continue .

AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT  , guess what ..... Some of us just dont give a damn !

+1

Apr 17 14 11:28 am Link

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Optical Prime

Posts: 91

Arlington, Virginia, US

I hope you work with your doctor and find a solution to whatever is the physiological or medical cause of this problem. Everyone has given you great operational techniques and gear suggestions to implement. That is great, but these things can get worse if not dealt with early on.

You mentioned the doctor said it was stress thing and said you have a gym membership. Consult your doctor what you should ease into. Walking a mile or two a day, if you carry a camera go real light.

One off cut question I have though is do you sleep enough and get good rest?

Apr 17 14 11:31 am Link

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JohnEnger

Posts: 868

Jessheim, Akershus, Norway

Robert Mossack wrote:

Pretty solid advice here, proper hand holding technique is key. Also, there is a techinque that they teach you when shooting a gun, don't inhale while you squeeze the trigger, rather exhale slowly while gently squeezing the trigger. This works in photography too, slowly exhale while gently pressing the shutter button. It works very well for me.

Thanks!

I could talk a lot more about holding a camera... So many people are doing it without thinking about what they are doing.

To pile on. Make sure your lens(left)-hand does not HOLD the lens. Your camera body should rest in the palm of your left hand, so that you can fully let go of the zoom/focus and still have support for the camera. If you touch the focus or zoom ring while releasing the shutter, ofcourse your shots will be blurry. Support the camera with your face. Just get your nose in there. Keep your arms tight to your body. Push your elbows in. If you shoot a lot of portraits, get a battery grip. That will allow you to maintain the stable position. Whereas shooting without one makes you have to move your arms away from your body.

I hope the OP picked up some of tips on what to do before spending an abundance on a tripod. Practicing this should make you able to shoot down to or even under 1/100 without shake.

Apr 17 14 11:35 am Link

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Alex Pullin

Posts: 18

London, England, United Kingdom

When I upgraded to a d800 (From a Canon 40d), I really noticed shake! Even with a 50mm, and for a long time I really had to work on it. I had to make several tweaks to my shooting method, I had to consciously let my right hand mesh with the contours of the grip as well as make myself depress the shutter with a smoother action. But something else I played with was a more stable method of supporting the camera and lens. And I did make some progress with it, I don't always use it, and you do look a little strange doing it, but here goes and don't laugh:

https://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j438/al-rdp/DSC_7452-1.jpg

Above I'm using my left hand to grab my right shoulder/upper arm

https://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j438/al-rdp/DSC_7453.jpg

And here you'll notice that I'm sort of reverse grabbing my forearm.

Both positions allow the camera to rest on your left arm and for me add a lot more stability, which both aids in reducing shake as well as allowing for careful placing of focus points (and for me at times having a steadier viewfinder for composing helps me slow things down and concentrate a little).

The glasses placed on top of the head are also strictly necessary, for balancing!

Apr 17 14 04:46 pm Link

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Marin Photo NYC

Posts: 7348

New York, New York, US

Yajhil Alvarez wrote:

LOL I don't drink coffeeand I have never smoked at joint but now might be a good time to start.  I need to chill out!

I knew it was camera shake! You are in Cali, it's legal to smoke!
LOL

Faster shutter speed, fast glass!....Tripod! I use one and I don't shake but I like to hold my whiskey in one hand...LOL

Apr 17 14 04:53 pm Link

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fsp

Posts: 3656

New York, New York, US

wynnesome wrote:

There's not a single nude in the OP's portfolio.  And the only topless models are men.

Hahahaha.

See what 2 joints gets ya?

Hahahahaha tff!

Apr 17 14 05:09 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Yajhil Alvarez wrote:
LOL I don't drink coffeeand I have never smoked at joint but now might be a good time to start.  I need to chill out!

Marin Photography NYC wrote:
I knew it was camera shake! You are in Cali, it's legal to smoke!
LOL

Faster shutter speed, fast glass!....Tripod! I use one and I don't shake but I like to hold my whiskey in one hand...LOL

What makes me really wonder is that... if I shoot at 1/500s, I freeze about any motion of most fast moving objects..., that such a fast speed is not fast enough to bypass "camera shake"...

I mean... Yajhil... seriously... how fast are you shaking???

Apr 17 14 07:00 pm Link

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Hi_Spade Photography

Posts: 927

Florence, South Carolina, US

Op, when I was young I hunted a lot. I started out hunting rabbit/squirrels with a 20 gauge shotgun. The recoil was very little. When I got my first rifle (30-06) for deer, the recoil was a lot more. It kicked me like a mule and my shots were all over the place. My grandfather saw me target practicing one day and he saw what my problem was. I was jerking the trigger and I would "flinch" just before I pulled the trigger. He told me to squeeze the trigger and follow through and let the shot "surprise you". I finally got the hang of it.
What  I think may be happening is just before you press the shutter, you may be "flinching" or moving before the shutter even opens/closes and you don't realize it. Try holding the camera with a sturdy grip and don't move until the shutter closes completely. Hope this helps.

Apr 17 14 07:19 pm Link

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analog light

Posts: 221

Greensboro, North Carolina, US

Get a camera with in body shake reduction (sony or pentax) or get lenses with image stabilization.

Apr 18 14 12:24 am Link

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ChadAlan

Posts: 4254

Los Angeles, California, US

udor wrote:

Yajhil Alvarez wrote:
LOL I don't drink coffeeand I have never smoked at joint but now might be a good time to start.  I need to chill out!

What makes me really wonder is that... if I shoot at 1/500s, I freeze about any motion of most fast moving objects..., that such a fast speed is not fast enough to bypass "camera shake"...

I mean... Yajhil... seriously... how fast are you shaking???

LOL

Apr 18 14 12:28 am Link

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ChadAlan

Posts: 4254

Los Angeles, California, US

FGO FANTASY PHOTO wrote:
This thread should have ended long ago.... TRIPOD is all you need if that's not enough set the auto timer on your camera as well, and don't touch it.

There are no Doctor's in here...I find these post hilarious....

So you think blurry images can always be avoided by using a tripod and timer?
smile

Apr 18 14 12:30 am Link

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Drew Smith Photography

Posts: 5214

Nottingham, England, United Kingdom

Two suggestions:

1. A trick a Biffer showed me a while ago; when you put the camera to your eye to shoot press the camera (through the eye cup) against your eye brow bone with some pressure - this helps steady the camera a little.

2. Have you tried shooting in AI Servo? This may help compensate a little if your shake it moving the camera back and forth - to and from your focus point.

Apr 18 14 12:58 am Link

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ChadAlan

Posts: 4254

Los Angeles, California, US

Drew Smith Photography wrote:
Two suggestions:

1. A trick a Biffer showed me a while ago; when you put the camera to your eye to shoot press the camera (through the eye cup) against your eye brow bone with some pressure - this helps steady the camera a little.

2. Have you tried shooting in AI Servo? This may help compensate a little if your shake it moving the camera back and forth - to and from your focus point.

Sorry OT, what's a Biffer? I got a range of definitions via google.

Apr 18 14 01:05 am Link

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Drew Smith Photography

Posts: 5214

Nottingham, England, United Kingdom

CHAD ALAN wrote:

Sorry OT, what's a Biffer? I got a range of definitions via google.

Oops - sorry - a Biffer is somebody that has a passion for shooting bird in flight.

BirdsInFlight -er. smile

Apr 18 14 01:09 am Link

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ChadAlan

Posts: 4254

Los Angeles, California, US

CHAD ALAN wrote:
Sorry OT, what's a Biffer? I got a range of definitions via google.

Drew Smith Photography wrote:
Oops - sorry - a Biffer is somebody that has a passion for shooting bird in flight.

BirdsInFlight -er. smile

I'm a Misser, I like to shoot every ModelInSight-er

ok end threadjack. smile

Apr 18 14 01:16 am Link