Model

SierraHardy

Posts: 33

Killeen, Texas, US

I'm going to be doing a fetish shoot soon. It's nothing like bondage, it's feet. But I wouldn't want to do this on a TF because its not something I would put in my portfolio. He asked my pay rate for this, and I have never been paid to shoot so I'm clueless. How much would be a fair rate for both the photographer and I?

Jun 19 14 04:04 pm Link

Photographer

Northern Sights

Posts: 186

Soldotna, Alaska, US

$100hr

Jun 19 14 04:07 pm Link

Model

SierraHardy

Posts: 33

Killeen, Texas, US

Northern Sights wrote:
$100hr

Even for a beginner model like myself

Jun 19 14 04:10 pm Link

Model

Laura UnBound

Posts: 28745

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Stills or video? Portfolio/personal website use or paysite?

In general, the latter of both of those questions ^ pays better than the former. That doesnt necessarily mean that this particular scenario will follow the trend, but thats a good place to start.


As for the beginner vs experienced thing…if you're not going to use it for yourself it doesnt matter much. Typically a model is told to start as TF when she's new and work her way up to low rates and then mid and then high rates as she gains experience builds a portfolio and becomes more valuable. But, thats really only useful to you if you want to build a fetish portfolio and market yourself as a fetish model. If this is just a one-off sort of thing, charge as much as you can while still keeping the gig. The money is going to be the ONLY useful thing to come out of the shoot for you, why lowball yourself on that?

If you dont feel comfortable giving them a rate, ask what the budget for the project is (with the details I asked about above considered). If the number that comes back is good enough, take it, if not, negotiate or decline

How much money is going to be enough to get you out of bed and at the shoot, how much is enough so that when you walk away you dont feel like you were lowballed and taken advantage of. Thats your number.


If you DO have a goal of working in the fetish genre and consistently billing yourself as available as a fetish model, then you'd probably want to do some portfolio building and then price yourself competitively within the genre.

Jun 19 14 04:21 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 9421

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Ask him what he usually pays . . .

Whatever amount he quotes you, just add $25 per hour to and tell him that is what you usually get.

That way he can either agree or tell you thats all he has and you can 'do him a favor' by working at a 'reduced rate' just for him . . .

KM

Jun 19 14 04:31 pm Link

Model

MartaBrixton

Posts: 1022

London, England, United Kingdom

Northern Sights wrote:
$100hr

I hope you were joking smile

Jun 19 14 04:32 pm Link

Photographer

Rays Fine Art

Posts: 7504

New York, New York, US

Northern Sights wrote:
$100hr

SierraHardy wrote:
Even for a beginner model like myself

Nah!  I think he's funnin' ya.

There really is no standard, especially for fetish since it's a genre that many do more as part of their own lifestyle than as a source of income.

Laura's advice is very good, but having looked at your profile, I'd urge you to be a bit extra careful since this is terra incognito for you.  Do your due diligence and talk to the photographer.  Make sure you both understand what each of you expects of the other and of the shoot, (boundaries, poses, usage, etc.)  Once (and only if) you've satisfied yourself on those scores, ask the photographer what he's budgeted for your services.  I don't know your area but I'd think that for a first-timer and involving no nudity, $25.00 to $50.00 per hour would be more than generous, and TF with the foot fetish thrown in as part of a more general shoot would be more the norm.  And I would be very concerned that if he's offering anything more, he's likely to expect more than pictures.

All IMHO as always, of course.

Jun 19 14 04:33 pm Link

Photographer

JK Photo Central

Posts: 82

Sparta, Wisconsin, US

Did the photographer offer anything at all? If not what do you think your time is worth

Jun 19 14 04:34 pm Link

Photographer

PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 4606

Jacksonville, Florida, US

ask the photographer's budget, and go from there, also as stated what is the photographer's intent on usage, that could help set your negotiating price along with his/ her's budget ? good luck, have fun !

Jun 19 14 04:37 pm Link

Model

Model MoRina

Posts: 6639

MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica

Fetish work is adult work.  It is typically produced either as a commercial product, meaning the photographer is going to make money from it, or the photographer himself has a foot fetish and is getting self-gratification from it. DO not be afraid to insist on pay for this type of work.

Be sure you ask exactly what the content is.  "Foot fetish" can range from being fully clothed and wiggling your toes in front of a video camera saying nothing or you may be asked to talk suggestively while doing so. Someone (the photographer or another male or female model) may be massaging your feet or even licking them (foot worship).  Foot fetish content can even include  contact with a penis... be sure what you are agreeing to.

No nudity, and no sexually suggestive scenarios should pay about 50 - 75/hr.  More suggestive scenarios pay 75 - 100/hr.  The other stuff pays more.

Jun 19 14 04:45 pm Link

Photographer

Random Image

Posts: 335

Pocatello, Idaho, US

I would say $25 an hour with a 3 hour min.

Jun 19 14 04:55 pm Link

Photographer

Northern Sights

Posts: 186

Soldotna, Alaska, US

Now wait a minute people. If models are going to work for free or cheap they should be getting something they will or can use. She stated that she won't use them in her port so I think she should start the bidding a little higher than if she was port building.
Maybe $100hr is high but that is my opening shot as a photographer, I pay higher but never lower. I think models deserve to be paid well for their time and I believe, though I am not a model, that if you are shooting for an hour then it probably involves much more time than that. Getting there, waiting around, test shots yada yada.
If a model is doing TFP to build a port that is one thing but this is another. Shoot maybe a little high and if the photographer balks then ask for an offer. In other words why show your cards first? What is their budget? In the end what will they do with the images? Lots of things to consider but if some one says how much aim a little high and negotiate from there.

Jun 19 14 05:12 pm Link

Model

SierraHardy

Posts: 33

Killeen, Texas, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
Stills or video? Portfolio/personal website use or paysite?

In general, the latter of both of those questions ^ pays better than the former. That doesnt necessarily mean that this particular scenario will follow the trend, but thats a good place to start.


As for the beginner vs experienced thing…if you're not going to use it for yourself it doesnt matter much. Typically a model is told to start as TF when she's new and work her way up to low rates and then mid and then high rates as she gains experience builds a portfolio and becomes more valuable. But, thats really only useful to you if you want to build a fetish portfolio and market yourself as a fetish model. If this is just a one-off sort of thing, charge as much as you can while still keeping the gig. The money is going to be the ONLY useful thing to come out of the shoot for you, why lowball yourself on that?

If you dont feel comfortable giving them a rate, ask what the budget for the project is (with the details I asked about above considered). If the number that comes back is good enough, take it, if not, negotiate or decline

How much money is going to be enough to get you out of bed and at the shoot, how much is enough so that when you walk away you dont feel like you were lowballed and taken advantage of. Thats your number.


If you DO have a goal of working in the fetish genre and consistently billing yourself as available as a fetish model, then you'd probably want to do some portfolio building and then price yourself competitively within the genre.

That makes a lot of sense. It's for personal/portfolio use and it's stills I believe. Thank you for posting this! It helped a lot!

Jun 19 14 05:12 pm Link

Model

D A N I

Posts: 4627

Little Rock, Arkansas, US

I charge $100/hr for erotic/fetish/everything that's more than just standing there in the nude...take it or leave it.

But as a beginner, I would go with what Ken said.

Jun 19 14 05:14 pm Link

Photographer

Wicked LA Pix

Posts: 2418

Yucaipa, California, US

I don't know if I would listen to Ken...he's only been shooting for a week or two and doesn't have much experience in fetish work....smile

Jun 19 14 05:26 pm Link

Model

SierraHardy

Posts: 33

Killeen, Texas, US

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Ask him what he usually pays . . .

Whatever amount he quotes you, just add $25 per hour to and tell him that is what you usually get.

That way he can either agree or tell you thats all he has and you can 'do him a favor' by working at a 'reduced rate' just for him . . .

KM

Ha! That sounds funny! Thank you!

Jun 19 14 06:14 pm Link

Model

SierraHardy

Posts: 33

Killeen, Texas, US

Random Image wrote:
I would say $25 an hour with a 3 hour min.

It's only an hour shoot,

Jun 19 14 06:15 pm Link

Model

SierraHardy

Posts: 33

Killeen, Texas, US

MoRina wrote:
Fetish work is adult work.  It is typically produced either as a commercial product, meaning the photographer is going to make money from it, or the photographer himself has a foot fetish and is getting self-gratification from it. DO not be afraid to insist on pay for this type of work.

Be sure you ask exactly what the content is.  "Foot fetish" can range from being fully clothed and wiggling your toes in front of a video camera saying nothing or you may be asked to talk suggestively while doing so. Someone (the photographer or another male or female model) may be massaging your feet or even licking them (foot worship).  Foot fetish content can even include  contact with a penis... be sure what you are agreeing to.

No nudity, and no sexually suggestive scenarios should pay about 50 - 75/hr.  More suggestive scenarios pay 75 - 100/hr.  The other stuff pays more.

This scared me a little. Haha, anyway. After reading this I made sure to make it a point of just foot photos. Thanks a lot!

Jun 19 14 06:16 pm Link

Model

SierraHardy

Posts: 33

Killeen, Texas, US

PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:
ask the photographer's budget, and go from there, also as stated what is the photographer's intent on usage, that could help set your negotiating price along with his/ her's budget ? good luck, have fun !

I asked and he said he didn't have one and asked my usual rate, we ended up at $50 an hour. Thanks for the post (:

Jun 19 14 06:17 pm Link

Model

SierraHardy

Posts: 33

Killeen, Texas, US

Rays Fine Art wrote:

Northern Sights wrote:
$100hr

Nah!  I think he's funnin' ya.

There really is no standard, especially for fetish since it's a genre that many do more as part of their own lifestyle than as a source of income.

Laura's advice is very good, but having looked at your profile, I'd urge you to be a bit extra careful since this is terra incognito for you.  Do your due diligence and talk to the photographer.  Make sure you both understand what each of you expects of the other and of the shoot, (boundaries, poses, usage, etc.)  Once (and only if) you've satisfied yourself on those scores, ask the photographer what he's budgeted for your services.  I don't know your area but I'd think that for a first-timer and involving no nudity, $25.00 to $50.00 per hour would be more than generous, and TF with the foot fetish thrown in as part of a more general shoot would be more the norm.  And I would be very concerned that if he's offering anything more, he's likely to expect more than pictures.

All IMHO as always, of course.

Thank you for posting, I told him 50-100 and he agreed. I made sure that it wasn't anything more.

Jun 19 14 06:21 pm Link

Model

Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

MoRina wrote:
No nudity, and no sexually suggestive scenarios should pay about 50 - 75/hr.  More suggestive scenarios pay 75 - 100/hr.  The other stuff pays more.

Yes.

Fetish work is some of the more highly paid stuff you're going to find on the internet.

Jun 21 14 07:12 am Link

Model

JadeDRed

Posts: 5620

London, England, United Kingdom

SierraHardy wrote:

It's only an hour shoot,

I'd charge more for that reason, especially if it involved a lot of travel.

I would pretty much charge the same rate as for two hours, since it's just as much effort for me.

Maybe if I worked from home, or it was someone local I knew I would consider something lower but generally you're paying for at least two hours, no matter how long it takes.

Jun 21 14 08:33 am Link

Photographer

Mark Salo

Posts: 11726

Olney, Maryland, US

SierraHardy wrote:
But I wouldn't want to do this on a TF because its not something I would put in my portfolio.

My first thought was that the photographer should spend some time shooting something that you would put in your portfolio, maybe something like glamour?

But Laura, Ken, and Mo have all given you good reasons for charging.  And so I think that you should.

Jun 21 14 08:51 am Link

Model

Samantha Scarlette

Posts: 456

New York, New York, US

Being as it is soft core pornography,  charge him whatever you want.   Foot Fetish stuff seems to be one the most popular/sought after genres….. It's a lot easier in some cases for a photographer to find a hot girl willing to pose nude for a glamour shoot, then to find someone willing to shoot pictures of their feet for dudes to touch themselves to.   
Like other people said you want to find out exactly what the shoot entails and where it's going to be posted.  Because it could be on some porn sites Fetish area.   I'm pretty sure if you go on RedTube or PornHub (or if your less adventurous Tumblr) and look under fetish videos, there will be videos of people wiggling their feet and all that stuff that you wouldn't usually assume to be porn… So yeah.. It's also how much are you willing to be paid to have your body part featured on a porn site.

Personally.. I'm pretty open to stuff in general (though when it comes to modeling, I would never do any sort of adult work.. Lingerie / Bikini is it for me)but Foot Fetishes freak me out.   I watched this documentary on dominatrixes, and this dude called them up talking about how he liked to lick & make love to women's dirty & smelly used gym sneakers. D-:

Jun 22 14 04:04 pm Link

Model

Jen B

Posts: 4474

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
The money is going to be the ONLY useful thing to come out of the shoot for you, why lowball yourself on that?

...

If you DO have a goal of working in the fetish genre and consistently billing yourself as available as a fetish model, then you'd probably want to do some portfolio building and then price yourself competitively within the genre.

Wonderfully said by Laura. I am commenting mostly just to quote her here so it gets mentioned again.

Good luck!

Jen

Jun 22 14 04:31 pm Link

Photographer

K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

SierraHardy wrote:
I asked and he said he didn't have one and asked my usual rate, we ended up at $50 an hour. Thanks for the post (:

SierraHardy wrote:
It's only an hour shoot,

So for a grand total of $50 you're doing something you don't need for your portfolio and crossing over into the fetish world also?  Is fetish something you see yourself doing on a regular basis?  Is it something you hope no one finds out about?

Because basically you just increased your limits for the price of a nice t shirt.

Quote higher prices for things you stated you can't use.  The worse thing that happens is they say no and you don't do what you don't need.  See how that works?

Jun 22 14 05:08 pm Link

Model

Rockabella

Posts: 588

Bargara, Queensland, Australia

Foot fetish fully clothed nothing weird: I've been offered $200 per hour for a three hour shoot. I've also been offered $150 an hour for a full day shoot. It really depends on your abilities and who is offering. I would say, reasonably speaking, people will go for $50 an hour.

Did they discuss their budget? If anything, if you go too highball just explain that you are willing to negotiate a lower rate. If you're comfortable with that, that is smile

Jun 23 14 10:06 am Link

Model

Amber Dawn - Indiana

Posts: 6255

Salem, Indiana, US

Any fetish can go for $100/Hour

Jun 23 14 09:34 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

You'll be doing a shoot that  you cannot use for anything and that he will most likely be selling for profit.

$100/hr is not ridiculous.

Do a good job, be professional, act if you need to act, and be good at it.  Fetish producers often use the same models over and over if they get in, do the job, do it well, and then get out. 

Acting professionally is also quoting a price, sticking to it, and making everything as easy as possible on the producer.  If you agree to the $100/hr, be sure to show up ON TIME, with clean, pedicured and moisturized feet.  Check with him about what kind of pedicure he'd like.  Painted toes or not.

Do the job, get paid, spend the money, wait for him to call you back for more.

Jun 23 14 09:50 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Edwards

Posts: 18616

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

MoRina wrote:
Fetish work is adult work.  It is typically produced either as a commercial product, meaning the photographer is going to make money from it, or the photographer himself has a foot fetish and is getting self-gratification from it. DO not be afraid to insist on pay for this type of work.

Be sure you ask exactly what the content is.  "Foot fetish" can range from being fully clothed and wiggling your toes in front of a video camera saying nothing or you may be asked to talk suggestively while doing so. Someone (the photographer or another male or female model) may be massaging your feet or even licking them (foot worship).  Foot fetish content can even include  contact with a penis... be sure what you are agreeing to.

No nudity, and no sexually suggestive scenarios should pay about 50 - 75/hr.  More suggestive scenarios pay 75 - 100/hr.  The other stuff pays more.

This.

Jun 24 14 07:54 am Link

Photographer

Ken Warren Photography

Posts: 933

GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US

Good Egg Productions wrote:
You'll be doing a shoot that  you cannot use for anything and that he will most likely be selling for profit.

$100/hr is not ridiculous.

Do a good job, be professional, act if you need to act, and be good at it.  Fetish producers often use the same models over and over if they get in, do the job, do it well, and then get out. 

Acting professionally is also quoting a price, sticking to it, and making everything as easy as possible on the producer.  If you agree to the $100/hr, be sure to show up ON TIME, with clean, pedicured and moisturized feet.  Check with him about what kind of pedicure he'd like.  Painted toes or not.

Do the job, get paid, spend the money, wait for him to call you back for more.

This too...

Jun 24 14 02:22 pm Link