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Photographers who shoot nudes - A Question....
I have two grown daughters . . . both of whom have posed nude (one also worked as a dancer for a VERY short period) in their earlier days . . . neither sought, nor felt they needed, my "permission", or blessing to do so . . . so, I guess in my case, it's a mute point . . . as a side note, both are well respected, successful professionals . . . THANK GAWD they didn't take after their father . . .  SOS Jul 16 14 06:39 am Link I am only commenting to say that this thread may be one of the best examples of a lot of people posting on the internet completely lying through their teeth. You guys completely crack me up sometimes. Jul 16 14 02:14 pm Link I have a daughter who is about to turn 19 and she is very beautiful and would be a terrific model (she did some runway stuff in the past and didn't enjoy it). If she said she was posing nude I would let her know she is an adult and gets to deal with the consequences of her actions..good or bad. That said the reason I am posting is I find it funny that so many of the fathers say they would want their daughters to be "safe". But if a model says she wants to bring an escort to be "safe" everyone freaks out. Okay not everyone but a lot of folks. Jul 16 14 03:43 pm Link Beautiful Boudoir wrote: Which is why I made the comment I made Jul 16 14 03:48 pm Link No daughters, but several nieces. No, I would not want them posing nude for a bunch of amateur photographers. I'm ok, and there's a bloke in Ipswich who is also ok, but the rest of you are scum. Jul 16 14 03:57 pm Link The Grand Artist wrote: Jul 16 14 04:21 pm Link Beautiful Boudoir wrote: I was wondering if anybody else would pickup on that. Of course if you called them a hypocrite they'd have a long drawn out explanation why that wasn't so. Jul 18 14 02:47 pm Link its her life. I'd support her if she chooses to to be nude in photos, on stage or in the movies. I would not be interested in photographing her at all and little desire to see the work unless she asked. life is already full of unwarranted judgement. my .02 Steve www.SteveAndersonPhotography.com Jul 20 14 02:18 pm Link Beautiful Boudoir wrote: Toto Photo wrote: "Safe" does not equal "Escort." This is an illogical jump in logic. Jul 20 14 02:38 pm Link The thought of any of my kids not being able to make their own decisions as they get older scares the crap out of me. If one of those decisions is to pose, nude or clothed, I'll be happy with it because it's *THEIR* decision. Jul 20 14 02:58 pm Link Kelly Kooper wrote: Hi, Jul 20 14 03:05 pm Link BTHPhoto wrote: I always liked your to the point way of saying things. Jul 20 14 03:07 pm Link Kelly Kooper wrote: As an artist I'm surprised by this too. Jul 22 14 08:18 am Link I don't have a daughter, but I have a 16 year old niece that I'm very close to and protective of. I would be absolutely fine with her modeling nude, as I don't think that nudity is anything to be ashamed of or slutty, or anything along those lines. But I would want to make sure that she was working with the right people - in other words, people that wouldn't try to take advantage of her, or push her into doing something she didn't want to do, etc. The vast majority of photographers who shoot nude work are extremely professional and err on the side of too much caution because of the nature of it. But of course there are some creepers out there who see it as a sex thing, a way to get a girl naked and make a move on her or something. Or other scams. I think that it is very easy to vet photographers and to know what you're getting into. But I would also want her to bring someone with her to ANY photo shoot, for safety purposes. I've shot models one on one many times, including nudes, and nothing has gone wrong. But it's really in everyone's best interest to have someone there just in case any kind of issues arise. Aug 02 14 02:56 pm Link To quote someone from earlier in this thread. "No daughters, but several nieces. No, I would not want them posing nude for a bunch of amateur photographers." A few points I would like to add. Most "art nudes", seem creepy to me. The typical black and white "art nudes" you see all over on model mayhem. I think its the situation. The idea of a 50 year old (I'm 23) amateur photographer shooting "art nudes" of younger girls seems weird. Its hard for me to see the art in that. Do whatever you want it's just a feeling I get when I see most "art nudes" in someones portfolio. If a daughter of mine wanted to shoot with someone like Kesler Tran which some people would find way worse then "art nudes" I might be fine with it. I am not a dad though so I have no clue about the whole "my daughter will never do that , she cant even have a boyfriend until shes 30" father thing. A lot of it has to do with the skill level of the photographer I guess. Then again I have no idea what its like to be a Dad. I'd think the photographer you shot with may have known some of his motives to shoot nudes and wasn't comfortable with them or comfortable with a guy with those motives shooting his daughter. Aug 02 14 03:22 pm Link That above is exactly the closed minded, unhealthy attitude that has frustrated artist for centuries. To assume all older men in he industry are out to simply be creepy and have nothing but perverted motives when they shoot black and white photos of young nude women is not only opinionated and super conservative but also shows a lack of artistic knowledge and history. Yes there are some here who shoot the cookie cutter naked pose just for reasons of capturing and looking at naked girls but there are also those who shoot for composition and emotional reasons where nudity is just one element of the photo... Many who are female themselves, are they perverts too? To photograph a nude figure in the context of light and shapes and composing them in a manner that is not only beautiful but also meaningful as well as challenging and one of the hardest things to do right... This is the goal of many and to disrespect those intentions only shows ignorance. Suggestion: visit a few museums and fine art galleries before tagging all people who work with nudes as "creepy". Oh and open your mind a little. Aug 02 14 03:47 pm Link TheRobertHanley wrote: This kinda boggles my mind. Aug 02 14 04:04 pm Link TheRobertHanley wrote: What does someone's age have to do with anything? Oh wait you are 23...nevermind. Wisdom comes with age and experience. Aug 02 14 04:34 pm Link I don't model much anymore, but have a good amount of experience as a figure nude model as well as being a photographer. I do not have kids and don't expect to, but would encourage ANYONE who wants to model nude to do so, starting out by working with reputable photographers by referral from friends. I've had friends who had an interest, and encouraged them to pursue it, and closest I can get to the exact original question, is I would also support my sister, or even my mom, in the same way, if they had that interest. Aug 02 14 04:47 pm Link Thanks for the personal attack Marin. I thought that wasn't allowed here. Age has nothing to to with it other than what I said. It's just a feeling. Art Silva. I wouldn't count your shots in that category of "art nudes" that I see so often on MM. I think its more being subjective then closed minded. I tried to make it clear that it has a lot to do with the skill of the photographer. I know everyone has to start somewhere. This forum post is about having your daughter shoot nudes. I think that if I had a daughter I would want her to shoot with someone I find talented. Creepy can make good images. I am not as "closed minded" as you may think. I don't really have anything against creepy dudes or "gwc's" but for my daughter I would rather not. ________________ quote that above is exactly the closed minded, unhealthy attitude that has frustrated artist for centuries. ( It has never frustrated me. You have to allow yourself to become frustrated. ) To assume all older men in he industry are out to simply be creepy and have nothing but perverted motives when they shoot black and white photos of young nude women is not only opinionated and super conservative but also shows a lack of artistic knowledge and history. ( I never said all older men.) Yes there are some here who shoot the cookie cutter naked pose just for reasons of capturing and looking at naked girls but there are also those who shoot for composition and emotional reasons where nudity is just one element of the photo... Many who are female themselves, are they perverts too? ( I don't see anything wrong with being a pervert ) To photograph a nude figure in the context of light and shapes and composing them in a manner that is not only beautiful but also meaningful as well as challenging and one of the hardest things to do right... This is the goal of many and to disrespect those intentions only shows ignorance. ( I am sorry if this was your goal and you allowed yourself to feel disrespected. I never saw your photos when I posted that so I don't know why you would assume I was talking about you. If you did that is. ) Suggestion: visit a few museums and fine art galleries before tagging all people who work with nudes as "creepy". Oh and open your mind a little. ( I never tagged all people who work with nudes as creepy. I actually praised one ) You may be projecting. Aug 02 14 05:30 pm Link I'd like to say if my daughter made the decision to pose nude, I'd support her as long as she was careful and chose the photographers she worked with responsibly. I'd like to think I've raised her to make smart decisions for herself and given her every opportunity to live her life the way she chooses... ...that said, if I ever actually have a daughter, it's just as likely I'll be grabbing a shotgun and chasing away any nude photographer my daughter so much as mentions. Aug 02 14 05:54 pm Link TheRobertHanley wrote: Gee, I feel left out. Aug 02 14 07:05 pm Link humans are weird. I didn't have a problem when my gf put up pictures kissing 3 of her female friends on facebook. but like 6 mo later, I put up pictures of me and a male friend making out and my gf flipped out and removed all the tags of her I had on my fb. Aug 03 14 03:49 am Link Kelly Kooper wrote: If she thought it through, I'd respect her choice, and try to give some suggestions. But, with the particular career goals she has, and her own lack of interest in any sort of modeling, it's not likely. Aug 03 14 08:29 am Link Kelly Kooper wrote: As long as she was legal age and wanted to pose nude then I wouldn't have an issue with it. Aug 03 14 08:40 am Link Magda Kulpinska wrote: You don't have to photograph, or even see, a woman nude to have "dirty thoughts." You don't even have to be male. Aug 03 14 09:09 am Link TheRobertHanley wrote: What possible difference does the age of the photographer make? Aug 03 14 09:15 am Link Art of the nude wrote: Exactly! I was shooting nudes when I was 18 long After I saw and painted my first nude. Aug 03 14 09:35 am Link It would ultimately be her decision. I photograph nudes but I make it a point to keep it very tasteful and not cross the proverbial line of indecent. Modelling nude is not pornography and that is exactly how I approach my nude shoots. I would be ok with my daughter doing the type of stuff that I shoot from time to time, as long as it was a safe environment with a reputable photographer. Aug 03 14 10:00 am Link I have young sons, not a daughter, but anyone who knows the fashion industry knows that teenage males have also been the target of creeps. My older son models because he likes it--no pressure from me. But if if wants to continue into his teen years, and if he continues to get interest from major brands, you can be sure that I'll be chaperoning him through it all and offering him all the advice I can. After he's an adult, the choices are entirely up to him; I just hope the education I've given him will help him make smart decisions. Aug 03 14 11:23 am Link This topic is fascination and I'd like to participate. I'm 33 and for the past four years, I'm proactive in my male nudity project. If I had adult sons of legal age, I would be OK with him modeling nude; HOWEVER, I would be selective of the photographer who he models nude for! I would even help procure a photographer using my name and reputation and work a discount out (if the photographer has his fees). If the photographer has a friend that needs a modeling portfolio, I could waive my fees, etc. There is nothing wrong with nudes, I've learned and challenged myself four years ago to appreciate the artistic and classy-sexy of the well-executed male nudes. There is nothing wrong with elderly men taking "ART NUDES," provided they are EXCEPTIONAL(!!!) Aug 03 14 12:26 pm Link Wonderful thoughts, Barry. In reality, our actions (as adults) has consequences and it would be a learning of life's lessons. BarryH wrote: Aug 03 14 12:28 pm Link RONALD NZ TAN wrote: Two questions; Aug 03 14 05:21 pm Link I don't have a daughter, I have colleagues with daughters, more specifically teenage daughters. One in particular is very talented and well respected in our niche field of photographers, as was his father, and he's encouraging his daughters not to be PROFESSIONAL photographers, let alone modeling. Actually, now that I think of it, I know two that are both going forward with that policy. Aug 04 14 07:16 am Link |
