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L O C U T U S
Posts: 1746
Bangor, Maine, US
I refuse to shoot any of them! I just cannot stand the " 800 meter." The "1000 meter" gets on my nerves too...But i'd photograph that race. 
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Mortonovich
Posts: 6209
San Diego, California, US
I refuse to shoot snow mobile racing. Too fugging cold!!
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L O C U T U S
Posts: 1746
Bangor, Maine, US
does that make us racists?
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TouchofEleganceStudios
Posts: 5480
Vallejo, California, US
Cool idea for a race pic: A Nikon and a Canon at the finish line at the Kentucky Derby, both with 70-200 zoom lenses.....which wins by a nose
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John Fisher
Posts: 2165
Miami Beach, Florida, US
TouchofEleganceStudios wrote:
Cool idea for a race pic:
A Nikon and a Canon at the finish line at the Kentucky Derby, both with 70-200 zoom lenses.....which wins by a nose
It would depend on what photographer is holding which camera. And then it could be more than a nose.
John
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Guss W
Posts: 10964
Clearwater, Florida, US
Auto races are a waste of gas.
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Mikey McMichaels
Posts: 3356
New York, New York, US
Locutus wrote:
I refuse to shoot any of them!
I just cannot stand the " 800 meter."
(yes this is "play on words" humor, so smile!)
hehehe The reason this is not an appropriate subject for a joke is because the upset and harm caused by racism is cumulative and not a case by case basis.
You've just reminded people of some extremely unpleasant and likely traumatic experiences.
If your goal is to spread happiness through humor, that's not the way to do it.
If your goal is to stir things up in a "clever" way and hide behind the humor as a defense for inappropriate behavior, then props to you.
If I remember correctly there's a rule against BS in the industry forums. This would probably fit better in Off Topic and probably be better received.
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Good Egg Productions
Posts: 16713
Orlando, Florida, US
Locutus wrote:
I refuse to shoot any of them!
I just cannot stand the " 800 meter."
(yes this is "play on words" humor, so smile!)
hehehe Seems like a joke thread should have be started in the Off Topic forum, rather than an industry forum.
A racist joke is a racist joke, even of you're not isolating any particular race.
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F-1 Photo
Posts: 1164
New York, New York, US
I have shot sportscar races although I am partial to all forms of open wheel events and cars.
After all, I am F-1 Photo!
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DougBPhoto
Posts: 39248
Portland, Oregon, US
F-1 Photo wrote:
I have shot sportscar races although I am partial to all forms of open wheel events and cars.
After all, I am F-1 Photo! I refuse to shoot a DP (Daytona Prototype) race. It just goes against my core principles.
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Shot By Adam
Posts: 8095
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
The reason this is not an appropriate subject for a joke is because the upset and harm caused by racism is cumulative and not a case by case basis.
You've just reminded people of some extremely unpleasant and likely traumatic experiences.
If your goal is to spread happiness through humor, that's not the way to do it.
If your goal is to stir things up in a "clever" way and hide behind the humor as a defense for inappropriate behavior, then props to you.
If I remember correctly there's a rule against BS in the industry forums. This would probably fit better in Off Topic and probably be better received. OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ON A POGO STICK!!!!!!!!! Are you serious? I think the biggest offense of this thread is it being in the wrong forum. Other than that, I thought it was pretty funny. Lighten up and go take your PC nonsense somewhere else.
![https://i.imgur.com/uRGrg5W.gif]()
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Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
I'd personally shoot all races given a chance, but I can see where certain equipment would be highly desirable and/or necessary.
For instance, I know someone who did some shooting at a race track (it was a motorcycle event). He went with the equipment he had at the time but was not a pro shooter. He said he met a pro shooter who loaned him a pro lens so he could get a taste of what it might be like to be a pro shooter. Well, shooting with a 50 mm f/1.8 is what he was used to (these lenses can be had for about $100 so it's relatively easy to get one).
The lens the guy loaned him was 300 (maybe 4 or 500 mm ... I can't remember now) mm and I think he said f/2.8. It was big enough to need its own monopod and probably cost the guy $6-8000 ... maybe more depending on when and where he got it and what condition it was in (brand new, slightly used, etc). He said it was the most amazing lens he ever shot with (makes sense since it cost about 10x what all of his equipment combined had cost).
I won't say it's necessary to have one of those to shoot races but I can see where it would be highly desirable. If you have access to this kind of equipment, I say go for it.
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Random Image
Posts: 335
Pocatello, Idaho, US
On a more serious note, I have stayed away from the "color" races where the runners wear white and have dyed poweder thrown on them. Way to damaging to gear!
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Dea and the Beast
Posts: 4796
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
http://youtu.be/KVN_0qvuhhw @Mikey McMichaels... If you can't make it better, you can laugh at it. Better not watch any stand up comedy, ever. Or you may perish of the trauma it may cause you or others you seem to feel strongly about. On the other hand, you could try laugh a little more, see if it improves your overall wellbeing. I'm saying this with sincerety. That last bit.
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Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
The reason this is not an appropriate subject for a joke is because the upset and harm caused by racism is cumulative and not a case by case basis.
You've just reminded people of some extremely unpleasant and likely traumatic experiences.
If your goal is to spread happiness through humor, that's not the way to do it.
If your goal is to stir things up in a "clever" way and hide behind the humor as a defense for inappropriate behavior, then props to you.
If I remember correctly there's a rule against BS in the industry forums. This would probably fit better in Off Topic and probably be better received. 
What trauma or unpleasant thoughts can possibly come from a person saying they don't want to photograph races? In terms of photographing, what's the difference between 100 and 800 meters?
If this is an inappropriate forum for this, the mods will handle it by either moving or locking it. Until then, can a person have a little fun for once? Is that too much to ask?
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SayCheeZ!
Posts: 20621
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Locutus wrote:
I refuse to shoot any of them!
I just cannot stand the " 800 meter."
(yes this is "play on words" humor, so smile!)
hehehe I was told to go over to the community center where I can watch a bunch of women competing to be the best in the breast stroke.
Hell, all I saw was a bunch of women swimming fast.
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Mikey McMichaels
Posts: 3356
New York, New York, US
Shot By Adam wrote:
OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ON A POGO STICK!!!!!!!!! Are you serious? I think the biggest offense of this thread is it being in the wrong forum. Other than that, I thought it was pretty funny. Lighten up and go take your PC nonsense somewhere else.
![https://i.imgur.com/uRGrg5W.gif]() If you don't have the empathy to understand why my post is not about being PC, you should rethink participating in an emotional pursuit like photography.
Ignorance is intolerable.
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Danish delight
Posts: 691
Marina del Rey, California, US
i refuse to shoot with bad photographers... does that make me a Diva
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Mikey McMichaels
Posts: 3356
New York, New York, US
Amadea T wrote:
http://youtu.be/KVN_0qvuhhw
@Mikey McMichaels...
If you can't make it better, you can laugh at it.
Better not watch any stand up comedy, ever.
Or you may perish of the trauma it may cause you or others you seem to feel strongly about.
On the other hand, you could try laugh a little more, see if it improves your overall wellbeing.
I'm saying this with sincerety. That last bit. Sorry, but even your own post is going over your head.
The way you make it better is by not tolerating ignorance.
I'm not offended by it, but change doesn't happen by different demographic groups debating each other. Men aren't going to stop harassing women on the street no matter what women say or do. The only thing that will stop it is other men speaking up. It's the same with something like this.
I've edited/mixed some of the biggest comedy albums of the last decade. Things that went way further than this and I have no problem with it in that context. This is not the same and you're lying to yourself if you think it is.
And it's not even funny. This would get silence from a comedy audience.
You're welcome to make all the personal digs at me you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it's inappropriate for this forum, it's insensitive and not funny enough to come anywhere near close to justifying the post - as if humor can justify this type of trolling.
The humor here is based on upsetting people and then, surprise! Fooled you.
Maybe when the mods move it, you cans ask them to retitle it so that people can add rape jokes and then you can tell all the rape survivors that they should be over it by now and they should laugh at it to improve their well being. What are you going to suggest next, laughing during the rape?
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Mikey McMichaels
Posts: 3356
New York, New York, US
Lovely Day Media wrote:
What trauma or unpleasant thoughts can possibly come from a person saying they don't want to photograph races? In terms of photographing, what's the difference between 100 and 800 meters?
If this is an inappropriate forum for this, the mods will handle it by either moving or locking it. Until then, can a person have a little fun for once? Is that too much to ask? Sure, as long as I can insult your portfolio in the name of fun for once.
I promise it will be funny and improve my well being.
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Rik Williams
Posts: 4005
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Danish delight wrote:
i refuse to shoot with bad photographers... does that make me a Diva nein Fräulein..... or rather No Maám!
Ahh... yeah.. edited for going off the deep end lol
Not directed at you Danish Delight
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Rik Williams
Posts: 4005
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
Sure, as long as I can insult your portfolio in the name of fun for once.
I promise it will be funny and improve my well being. Hey Mikey
Lovely Day has every right to have a word in this debacle... Most likely more than you ever will
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Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
Lovely Day Media wrote:
What trauma or unpleasant thoughts can possibly come from a person saying they don't want to photograph races? In terms of photographing, what's the difference between 100 and 800 meters?
If this is an inappropriate forum for this, the mods will handle it by either moving or locking it. Until then, can a person have a little fun for once? Is that too much to ask? Mikey McMichaels wrote:
Sure, as long as I can insult your portfolio in the name of fun for once.
I promise it will be funny and improve my well being. Sure, what? It's too much to ask or a person can have a little fun? My main question didn't get answered, either. That was and is this: what trauma or unpleasant thoughts can possibly come from a person saying they don't want to photograph races?
Yes, races can mean people with different skin colors (in a simple definition) but races can also mean exhibitions of speed and/or endurance (which is what the OP seems to be about). You are allowed to insult my portfolio until you are blue in the face if I ask for it in the critique forum. You can do it anywhere else you like, too, but you may suffer the consequences. That's your choice to make.
I don't understand what that has to do with the OP not wanting to photograph races, though, even if a person thinks it's funny or not.
ETA: Just for the record, I posted a thread a while ago that I entitled women shouldn't have children after 35. A person could've skipped the whole post and just read the last line and got the point: 35 children are enough, there is no need to have more. Instead, it took a person all around the world to get to that point.
Someone who shall remain nameless and faceless got highly bent out of shape over it because they didn't read it (but claimed they did) and later claimed they read it but didn't understand it. When someone finally hit them with a clue by four, they finally "got it" but didn't think it was funny (which is fine) but no one else seemed to have a problem with it (once they got to the last line). That thread got locked.
The point is some people have no sense of humor. Others have no appreciation for humor outside of a certain brand (or two). For those who have no humor or can't appreciate the humor a person tries bringing to the table, it seems like it would be easier to skip threads like this, but it takes all kinds. C'est la vie.
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SayCheeZ!
Posts: 20621
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
The way you make it better is by not tolerating ignorance.
I've edited/mixed some of the biggest comedy albums of the last decade... I have a feeling this hit song from a hit Broadway musical shown on one of the most popular daytime TV shows isn't one of the albums you've edited:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM
(fast forward to 3:23 for the main meaning of the message)
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Shot By Adam
Posts: 8095
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
If you don't have the empathy to understand why my post is not about being PC, you should rethink participating in an emotional pursuit like photography.
Ignorance is intolerable. OK, time to go back on your meds now.
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Dea and the Beast
Posts: 4796
Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
Sorry, but even your own post is going over your head.
The way you make it better is by not tolerating ignorance.
I'm not offended by it, but change doesn't happen by different demographic groups debating each other. Men aren't going to stop harassing women on the street no matter what women say or do. The only thing that will stop it is other men speaking up. It's the same with something like this.
I've edited/mixed some of the biggest comedy albums of the last decade. Things that went way further than this and I have no problem with it in that context. This is not the same and you're lying to yourself if you think it is.
And it's not even funny. This would get silence from a comedy audience.
You're welcome to make all the personal digs at me you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it's inappropriate for this forum, it's insensitive and not funny enough to come anywhere near close to justifying the post - as if humor can justify this type of trolling.
The humor here is based on upsetting people and then, surprise! Fooled you.
Maybe when the mods move it, you cans ask them to retitle it so that people can add rape jokes and then you can tell all the rape survivors that they should be over it by now and they should laugh at it to improve their well being. What are you going to suggest next, laughing during the rape? 1) Your assumption about my motivation to click on this particular thread in the first place would interest me.
2) Your comparison of rape ( and what I would or wouldn't suggest to do during such an event) to a (maybe lame, whatever) wordplay- thread and your ( imho) completely overblown reaction to it is ridiculous at best. You are putting words in my mouth.
3) People like you make people like me into social- anxiety- balls of tremors with your busy -body-save-humanty-with-your-righteousness-attitude , assumptions and accusations. Can't open one's mouth any more for fear of mortally offending somebody or being lectured/reprimanded.
I tried to diffuse. I failed. I'm not a professor of philosophy or communications. My mistake. I apologize for my ill attempt at mild sarcasm.
*crawls back under rock*
PS: You don't know where I've been.
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Lovely Day Media
Posts: 5885
Vineland, New Jersey, US
Amadea T wrote:
PS: You don't know where I've been. I'm of the opinion that for the sake of this thread, it doesn't matter where you've been. It's a public post on a public forum where everyone who is logged in (and maybe some who aren't) have every right to make a comment.
Your comments weren't off topic, offensive on any level or otherwise boorish, IMO. Some people just have a problem with humor of any brand. Even if one's humor meter is miscalibrated, the OP made it clear it was an attempt at humor. If one didn't get it, doesn't appreciate it or whatever, for me that would be license to skip this thread.
Instead, a comparison is made between rape and not wanting to photograph a race. I don't see the relationship and I like to think I'm pretty good at seeing relationships, even in the remotest of stretches. Carry on but don't let others rob you of your joy.
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Rik Williams
Posts: 4005
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
Ignorance is intolerable. Intolerance is intolerable, ignorance is bliss
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Leo Howard
Posts: 6850
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Locutus wrote:
does that make us racists? Actually, I think that makes you "Anti Racist"
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Mantographer
Posts: 174
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
Sorry, but even your own post is going over your head.
The way you make it better is by not tolerating ignorance.
I'm not offended by it, but change doesn't happen by different demographic groups debating each other. Men aren't going to stop harassing women on the street no matter what women say or do. The only thing that will stop it is other men speaking up. It's the same with something like this.
I've edited/mixed some of the biggest comedy albums of the last decade. Things that went way further than this and I have no problem with it in that context. This is not the same and you're lying to yourself if you think it is.
And it's not even funny. This would get silence from a comedy audience.
You're welcome to make all the personal digs at me you want, but it's not going to change the fact that it's inappropriate for this forum, it's insensitive and not funny enough to come anywhere near close to justifying the post - as if humor can justify this type of trolling.
The humor here is based on upsetting people and then, surprise! Fooled you.
Maybe when the mods move it, you cans ask them to retitle it so that people can add rape jokes and then you can tell all the rape survivors that they should be over it by now and they should laugh at it to improve their well being. What are you going to suggest next, laughing during the rape? +14,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
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L O C U T U S
Posts: 1746
Bangor, Maine, US
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
And it's not even funny. This would get silence from a comedy audience.
The humor here is based on upsetting people and then, surprise! Fooled you.
What are you going to suggest next, laughing during the rape? Mikey, really?
LOL
CHILL DUDE!
I Liked being raised by my father, he was Schizophrenic,,,, but he was good people..
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L O C U T U S
Posts: 1746
Bangor, Maine, US
Amadea T wrote:
1) Your assumption about my motivation to click on this particular thread in the first place would interest me.
2) Your comparison of rape ( and what I would or wouldn't suggest to do during such an event) to a (maybe lame, whatever) wordplay- thread and your ( imho) completely overblown reaction to it is ridiculous at best. You are putting words in my mouth.
3) People like you make people like me into social- anxiety- balls of tremors with your busy -body-save-humanty-with-your-righteousness-attitude , assumptions and accusations. Can't open one's mouth any more for fear of mortally offending somebody or being lectured/reprimanded.
I tried to diffuse. I failed. I'm not a professor of philosophy or communications. My mistake. I apologize for my ill attempt at mild sarcasm.
*crawls back under rock*
PS: You don't know where I've been. Amadea,
I too, don't know where you've been.
But, I am sure glad, you are here right now.
Don't let self righteous people cause you to hide. Speak up, and don't be afraid to stand up.
Shout your opinions just as loud as the humor-less folks who want to berate you and I.
You did good.
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MMR Creative Services
Posts: 1902
Doylestown, Pennsylvania, US
You're a jerk for playing the race card.
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L O C U T U S
Posts: 1746
Bangor, Maine, US
Shot By Adam wrote:
OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ON A POGO STICK!!!!!!!!! Are you serious? I think the biggest offense of this thread is it being in the wrong forum. Other than that, I thought it was pretty funny. Lighten up and go take your PC nonsense somewhere else.
![https://i.imgur.com/uRGrg5W.gif]() +1
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L O C U T U S
Posts: 1746
Bangor, Maine, US
SayCheeZ! wrote:
I was told to go over to the community center where I can watch a bunch of women competing to be the best in the breast stroke.
Hell, all I saw was a bunch of women swimming fast. hahahaha
+1
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Alabaster Crowley
Posts: 8283
Tucson, Arizona, US
A parody thread that's now about rape.
Cool.
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RDPhoto - Ric
Posts: 601
Atlanta, Georgia, US
I personally thought the post was funny, but I am not a comedy audience, and I laugh at everything.
I truly believe the intention was to get attention, then a laugh. No harm in that at all.
And I hate shooting endurance races unless I can get a shot of the brakes glowing. Most other races are OK with me.
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Fantasy Optic
Posts: 295
Monterey, California, US
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
If you don't have the empathy to understand why my post is not about being PC, you should rethink participating in an emotional pursuit like photography.
Ignorance is intolerable. If a word play joke makes you think of trauma, I'm sincerely sorry for your situation. But you should look into therapy. Intolerance, especially over a few words, is fascism, sad to say.
That said, way too many races are just too gross and dirty. Like horse races.
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Managing Light
Posts: 2678
Salem, Virginia, US
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
The reason this is not an appropriate subject for a joke is because the upset and harm caused by racism is cumulative and not a case by case basis.
You've just reminded people of some extremely unpleasant and likely traumatic experiences.
If your goal is to spread happiness through humor, that's not the way to do it.
If your goal is to stir things up in a "clever" way and hide behind the humor as a defense for inappropriate behavior, then props to you.
If I remember correctly there's a rule against BS in the industry forums. This would probably fit better in Off Topic and probably be better received. And once again a troll takes over a teriffic thread. Thanks Mikey. 
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AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 13053
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Mikey McMichaels wrote:
The reason this is not an appropriate subject for a joke is because the upset and harm caused by racism is cumulative and not a case by case basis.
You've just reminded people of some extremely unpleasant and likely traumatic experiences.
If your goal is to spread happiness through humor, that's not the way to do it.
If your goal is to stir things up in a "clever" way and hide behind the humor as a defense for inappropriate behavior, then props to you.
If I remember correctly there's a rule against BS in the industry forums. This would probably fit better in Off Topic and probably be better received. Funny when I read the title I thought it would be a thread about auto races, seems like you jumped to some conclusions all on your own.
P.S. I can see no reason to photograph a bunch of people who think turning left is a sport, give me a real auto race 
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