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How do you define "Artistic Nude"
If I rise to the occasion then it's porn. Jul 24 14 09:09 pm Link agree it was over simplified but still...true...not an assumption Jul 24 14 09:29 pm Link Alabaster Crowley wrote: well said. though sometimes i endeavor to get both ooh and ohh in a piece. not sure what that would be called. Jul 24 14 10:29 pm Link mophotoart wrote: So your subjective opinion is that art is objectively obvious to educated people? Is this satire? I guess if I had an art degree I'd know. Jul 24 14 10:40 pm Link mophotoart wrote: Things are either facts or assumptions. It is not a fact that all people with art degrees actually know dick about art. It is an assumption. Jul 24 14 10:46 pm Link If you still want to look at it after having a wank, art. If you don't, porn. Jul 24 14 10:48 pm Link How do you define "Artistic Nude" Jul 24 14 11:09 pm Link -JAY- wrote: But either way, the former is a foregone conclusion. Jul 25 14 08:11 am Link My apologies for not reading everyone's comments, I am simply intrigued by the question. As someone who has explored most artistic forms, and has recently become inspired by photography, all I can say is this; Artistic Nudes, quite literally is the nude body in an artistic nature. Throughout history, many depictions of religious figures, or heroic figures have been displayed in the nude. Many times this is done as a depiction of strength or beauty (I commonly believe the metaphor, "Without Armour") My art teacher in high school kind of welded these images into my memory lol. Many cultures also believe that the body is either a canvas, or a holy temple. I have always believed that the body is a vessel for the soul, and a canvas to explore artistry (tattoos being a literal act of using the body as a canvas, which I have also explored). Nudity has only become controversial because of the porn industry. Even sex was once believed to be intimate and passionate, two qualities that artists identify with. Many people misunderstand the concept of using the body for shape and form, or subject of beauty and strength. To me, Artistic Nudes is what I have always been taught; nudity is beautiful. Curvature, Form, Figure, Shape; all elements of art and design. Nudity is powerful, symbolic, and even passionate. Sub-genres of Artistic nudity may include; Tastful, Figure, Erotic, and Natural. Porn is porn, I think there is no argument in that subject lol. Porn exploits sexuality as a materialistic desire or need. Jul 25 14 11:37 am Link Ask 20 people for their opinion of "X" and get 20 different answers. When it involves nudes, what you call it is immaterial. All that really matters is that the model is comfortable with the concept and you are happy with the outcome. Jul 25 14 11:58 am Link Only the one making the image can say whether it if "artistic" or not. Art is a process of discovery. A better question would be, "What differences characterize "good" art nudes, as opposed to "bad" artistic nudes". I will start with good composition, good craftsmanship, and an interesting subject, or interesting handling of a subject go into a "good" artistic nude, (or any other kind of image, for that matter). -Don Jul 25 14 12:19 pm Link mophotoart wrote: Another artiste speaks. I have mulitple degrees and not a single one of them allow me to define the world to others. In other words if you believe the bullshit you just put forth here then it is true for you but it doesn't mean it has to be true for me or others. Jul 25 14 03:31 pm Link Artistic Nude - you view and ask who the photographer is? Non-Artistic Nude - you view and ask who the model is? Jul 26 14 07:22 am Link Wow. I got busy and hadn't had a chance to check the forums. Lots of replies since I last looked and too many to reply to. It was interesting reading  Jul 26 14 06:59 pm Link Photographic Adventures wrote: I don't, because the minute you try to define any distinction at all between genres in photography, every photographer gets their lens cloth in a wad about how that definition might not apply to their nudes, so they go off on sophomoric didactic rants about the impossibility of defining art, which then devolves into the inevitable and useless debate about some supposed dividing line between "art" and "porn" (which their own work always just happens to slide neatly into the "art" side of). Jul 26 14 07:54 pm Link mophotoart wrote: anyone with a degree in art will understand the difference....you will have at least a year of (life) nude drawing where you are using a medium to convey the human form because of the complexity and beauty, I had to have another class on form of feet and hands and how light and perspective work to define that complexity...simple answer to the OP...there are those that like taking pictures of naked people because that is what they do, and there are those that do art....I think the volume of the work will speak for itself .. is it art or naked people...your choice...obvious to educated people...just an opinion tho...Mo Another artiste speaks. I have mulitple degrees and not a single one of them allow me to define the world to others. In other words if you believe the bullshit you just put forth here then it is true for you but it doesn't mean it has to be true for me or others Jul 26 14 08:12 pm Link the use of the words were not necessary...your point was better made without the cussing...2 degrees and you get snarky....explain your point politely...you have 2 degrees...your educated....I won't comment further on this with you, your doing your thing, I offended you and , oh well..Mo Jul 26 14 08:19 pm Link Photographic Adventures wrote: The most beautiful and spectacular Fine Art Nudes blow my mind, no matter how many times I view them, because of how several things come together: Lighting, models lines, facial expression, background and Jul 27 14 04:35 pm Link The reason it's virtually impossible to define art, in any context, is the lack of a working concept of the spirit. They would not have had this problem 500 years ago because they had a conceptual framework which incorporated everything to do with art. Now we are no longer certain the human being is not just a sophisticated animal, and even prefer to think of him as a biological mechanism, we struggle with manifestations of his psyche which were once considered to belong to the realm of soul and spirit. So where once it would have been possible to talk about the 'spirit' of an action, the 'spirit' in which a work of art was conceived and made manifest, and to have that understood by the listener, it is now no longer possible. Jul 27 14 05:15 pm Link There will never be a clear cut definition or boundaries. In general an "Artistic Nude" aspires to embody more than the erotic gratification of seeing a hot naked body. It might embody a classical beauty ideal, be abstract, evoke a variety of emotions aside from erotic arousal, allegorical, lyrical, political. In short it's not just a naked hottie. Erotic nudes are visually designed to evoke a sexual response, though artistic nudes can also have an erotic aspect. Terry Richardson has done some pornographic nudes that also have allegory, wit and subtext that transcends the explicit sexual nature of the imagery. What is pornographic to one person is art to another. This is why I will not use words like "pornographic" or "artistic nude" in a model release or contract. The words are too vague and defy a tight definition. Jul 27 14 07:03 pm Link In my eyes its all about the photographer's intent... is the intent to provoke thought and discourse? Is the intent to provoke tingling sensations? Even then can a thoughtul artistic nude not provoke tingling sensations? Who cares - shoot what you want. Jul 27 14 07:10 pm Link To me is has really kind of always been more about the purpose. An artistic nude picture can be graphic but not sexual. In the same way porn does not have to be graphic to be specifically sexual. I feel art nudes focus a lot on the body and not the face of the subject, where with porn the face is generally a focal point. The individual posing in porn is usually trying to portray some facial expression of pleasure. These lines are blurry to everyone. The reason I usually hear this question is because a model will indicate they will shoot artistic nudes but not glamour or erotic. Then it is up to your interpretation vs theirs. If you are curious about how a certain model feels about what you are planning on shooting then make sure to have an open dialogue before hand and communicate well through the shoot. AD [email protected] Jul 27 14 08:16 pm Link |
