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E H

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When someone swears in English it comes from sex, french it comes from church,, that is as far as my knowledge goes. Just curious of where it comes from in other languages. Any help in this curiosity would be a great help and thanks for the help.

Aug 10 14 10:15 pm Link

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Jay Leavitt

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E H wrote:
When someone swears in English it comes from sex

Where the goddamn shit did you hear that?

Aug 10 14 10:29 pm Link

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Eastfist

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Green Bay, Wisconsin, US

-JAY- wrote:

Where the goddamn shit did you hear that?

Exsmactly. It's still religious based origins. That's why it's called "cursing", to put a "curse" on your enemies, etc. Because sex would have been against the dominant religion at the time.

Otherwise it wouldn't make any sense:

"I wish you great physical pleasure!!!" Doesn't quite sound like chastising someone for having sex.

Aug 10 14 10:51 pm Link

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E H

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Most swear words like Fbomb Csucker and on and on in english, French swear word in Quebec generally slur in the direction of the Catholic church is Tabarnak.  I was wondering if and where the other languages take it from Japanese, Germany, Russain, etc. So your say it all comes from the church???
We say F$%K in english when we are pissed and or really pissed, soo others say  ____________.

Aug 10 14 11:07 pm Link

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Daniel

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Apparently fuck didn't start in English: http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/fuck.asp

And nor should it end so.

Aug 10 14 11:26 pm Link

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Tim Summa

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Though not specifically a swear word, the term 'hooker' comes from the time of the end of this civil war in the US. Hooker was John Hooker, general of the Union troops occupying New Orleans and his setting up his HQ in the red light district.

Another is Jazz, used by African Americans as a substitute  for the word fuck.

Finally, honky, a derogatory name given to white patrons for African American hookers in Harlem NY. The white johns would honk their horns at the hookers to get them to come to their cars, rather than leave their car to make a transaction for sex.

Aug 10 14 11:59 pm Link

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E H

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Daniel wrote:
Apparently fuck didn't start in English: http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/fuck.asp

And nor should it end so.

Interesting and thanks,, but if the is no king where does it come from: Fornication Under Consent of the King doesn't work like in North and South America before everyone come over,,when they got pissed, they would say something, where did that or those words come from/curse

Aug 11 14 12:07 am Link

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E H

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Tim Summa wrote:
Though not specifically a swear word, the term 'hooker' comes from the time of the end of this civil war in the US. Hooker was John Hooker, general of the Union troops occupying New Orleans and his setting up his HQ in the red light district.

Another is Jazz, used by African Americans as a substitute  for the word fuck.

Finally, honky, a derogatory name given to white patrons for African American hookers in Harlem NY. The white johns would honk their horns at the hookers to get them to come to their cars, rather than leave their car to make a transaction for sex.

Interesting and thanks for the input.  I did not know 'hooker' or  Jazz, used by African Americans as a substitute  for the word fuck.
Interested to know why and how Jazz is used, coming from something in or about music?

Aug 11 14 12:24 am Link

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FIFTYONE PHOTOGRAPHY

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bloody hell

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Kelli

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The swear words I know in other languages, such as Tagalog, Greek, Arabic, Spanish etc are mostly like English swear words, have same or similar meaning.

Aug 11 14 06:26 am Link

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Justin

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Tim Summa wrote:
Finally, honky, a derogatory name given to white patrons for African American hookers in Harlem NY. The white johns would honk their horns at the hookers to get them to come to their cars, rather than leave their car to make a transaction for sex.

Hm. According to Dietrich in Barney Miller, it referred to a nasally East Coast white accent. And here I thought that this fictional character was definitive.

Aug 11 14 10:08 am Link

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Cherrystone

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-JAY- wrote:

Where the goddamn shit did you hear that?

lol Seriously....

Aug 11 14 10:10 am Link

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Stephen Fletcher

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There is a difference between a profanity and a vulgarity.

Aug 11 14 10:15 am Link

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E H

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Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Kelli wrote:
The swear words I know in other languages, such as Tagalog, Greek, Arabic, Spanish etc are mostly like English swear words, have same or similar meaning.

Thanks

Aug 11 14 12:44 pm Link

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E H

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Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Stephen Fletcher wrote:
There is a difference between a profanity and a vulgarity.

Very true, and thanks.
Here is what I know,, Profanity and swearing in general usually falls into one of three categories in English: sexual references, references to bodily functions, and blasphemous language. This is what I am looking to find and understand in other languages,, not the words so much,, but where they come from is what I am interested in.

Aug 11 14 01:01 pm Link

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Fotticelli

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In Polish cursing is about the same things as in English: prostitutes, excrement, fornication, genitatlia, etc.

Aug 11 14 01:10 pm Link

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kickfight

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Fotticelli wrote:
In Polish cursing is about the same things as in English: prostitutes, excrement, fornication, genitatlia, etc.

Same goes for Spanish: casting aspersions on the integrity of one's family tree (specifically with regards to the sexual permissiveness of one's mother/grandmother/sister), comparing someone to a bodily orifice and its associated bodily function, implying a shortage or absence of manhood in both the literal and figurative sense, etc.

Aug 11 14 02:36 pm Link

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E H

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Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Fotticelli wrote:
In Polish cursing is about the same things as in English: prostitutes, excrement, fornication, genitatlia, etc.

Thanks for the input

Aug 11 14 09:04 pm Link

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E H

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kickfight wrote:

Same goes for Spanish: casting aspersions on the integrity of one's family tree (specifically with regards to the sexual permissiveness of one's mother/grandmother/sister), comparing someone to a bodily orifice and its associated bodily function, implying a shortage or absence of manhood in both the literal and figurative sense, etc.

Thanks for the input

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