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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
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Excelsior Photography
Posts: 1581
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US
Just read an article in the NYTimes Business section quoting a woman as saying her 14-yr-old son was "quite disturbed" by the photo.
I'll bet!
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G Images
Posts: 272
Lexington, Kentucky, US
Caitin Bre wrote:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gift-gq-m … 16196.html
Lands End sent a free gift to its most valued customers. It seems that some of the customers were offended by the gift. It was a GQ magazine with a female model in a implied nude pose on the cover.
Drives me crazy how people react to nudity or even implied nudity in our country.
They need to grow the f up. They are adults. They have grown up. They have decided that they don't want unsolicited copies of magazines that feature a female model in an implied nude pose on the cover being sent to them. They have no need to justify to anyone else why they feel that way.
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
G Images wrote:
They are adults. They have grown up. They have decided that they don't want unsolicited copies of magazines that feature a female model in an implied nude pose on the cover being sent to them. They have no need to justify to anyone else why they feel that way. Your right. But they are also the 1st people to make the biggest stink over spilt milk. Some of them calling it obscene and pornographic material. That is exactly the same puritanical babel that tries to control what people who enjoy artistic human form has a right to view.
They can just toss it in the garbage and not look at it. and expecialy not make such a stink about it. You would think someone just burned down there house how they act about it. Geeze
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Camera Ready Studios
Posts: 7191
Dallas, Texas, US
G Images wrote:
They are adults. They have grown up. They have decided that they don't want unsolicited copies of magazines that feature a female model in an implied nude pose on the cover being sent to them. They have no need to justify to anyone else why they feel that way. I agree.
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Camera Ready Studios
Posts: 7191
Dallas, Texas, US
Caitin Bre wrote:
Your right. But they are also the 1st people to make the biggest stink over spilt milk. Some of them calling it obscene and pornographic material. That is exactly the same puritanical babel that tries to control what people who enjoy artistic human form has a right to view.
They can just toss it in the garbage and not look at it. and expecialy not make such a stink about it. You would think someone just burned down there house how they act about it. Geeze
![https://i.huffpost.com/gen/1965167/thumbs/o-GQ-570.jpg?6]() You can't just not look at it, unless they put it in wrapping with a warning on the front. This may be tame to most people here but there are very conservative homes in this country and they have the right to NOT be offended when opening their mail
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Warren Leimbach
Posts: 3223
Tampa, Florida, US
Should have dressed her in hip waders and a flannel shirt.
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
Warren Leimbach wrote:
Should have dressed her in hip waders and a flannel shirt. I don't see anything at all wrong with how she is dressed. I see nothing un-natural at all about it.
I also believe nudity is normal. Clothing is not normal or we would grow them on our bodies.
I also believe to teach a society that nudity is wrong and bad is not right. That it is abnormal psychology.
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sweetcheekscouture
Posts: 465
West Palm Beach, Florida, US
it wasn't a very smart business move
you better know your demographic . . .
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
Does anyone else think its wrong to call it porn?
People on the Lands End facebook page are calling it Obscene, Pornographic, Soft Porn.
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sweetcheekscouture
Posts: 465
West Palm Beach, Florida, US
Caitin Bre wrote:
Does anyone else think its wrong to call it porn?
People on the Lands End facebook page are calling it Obscene, Pornographic, Soft Porn. who cares
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Mark Salo
Posts: 11723
Olney, Maryland, US
My 99 year old mother cancelled her own subscription to Birds and Blooms plus several gift subscriptions because she objected to an advertisement.
Yes, we live in a multicultural society.
Edit: My son didn't get that gift from Lands’ End. I guess he is not one of "its most valued customers." LOL
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Caitin Bre wrote:
I also believe to teach a society that nudity is wrong and bad is not right. That it is abnormal psychology. ... and against nature and mental health!
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studio36uk
Posts: 22898
Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna
Excelsior Photography wrote:
Just read an article in the NYTimes Business section quoting a woman as saying her 14-yr-old son was "quite disturbed" by the photo.
I'll bet! Really?
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CherryPie
Posts: 15
Columbus, Ohio, US
Caitin Bre wrote:
Your right. But they are also the 1st people to make the biggest stink over spilt milk. Some of them calling it obscene and pornographic material. That is exactly the same puritanical babel that tries to control what people who enjoy artistic human form has a right to view.
They can just toss it in the garbage and not look at it. and expecialy not make such a stink about it. You would think someone just burned down there house how they act about it. Geeze I guess you don't see the hypocrisy of what you're saying, 'eh? 
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Imageri by Tim Davis
Posts: 1431
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
G Images wrote:
They are adults. They have grown up. They have decided that they don't want unsolicited copies of magazines that feature a female model in an implied nude pose on the cover being sent to them. They have no need to justify to anyone else why they feel that way. They could have kept it to themselves, instead of broadcasting to anyone who would listen how appalled they were.
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Camera Ready Studios
Posts: 7191
Dallas, Texas, US
Imageri by Tim Davis wrote:
They could have kept it to themselves, instead of broadcasting to anyone who would listen how appalled they were. Yea, those People that objected to getting this in the mail should just be quiet like the gay population was quiet about Chick Fil A's owners remarks... and remember how quiet we all were when Donald Sterling made racist remarks in the privacy of his own home? I'm not condoning any of this, not really taking sides.... I'm just pointing out that it's not in our nature to just be quiet when we're offended. Being caught with this magazine cover could be a death sentence in some areas of the world
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The Grand Artist
Posts: 468
Fort Worth, Texas, US
Imageri by Tim Davis wrote:
They could have kept it to themselves, instead of broadcasting to anyone who would listen how appalled they were. Because that is the very definition of freedom of speech in America.
I just love MM. So many people here love to make nude, implied nude, and porn. They love that freedom.
The moment someone else wants the freedom not to do those things then they need to get over themselves. It is kinda like telling a married couple they are couple stupid for getting married when everyone else is sleeping with a different person everyday.
They didn't ask for the magazine. They didn't want the magazine. They told the person that sent it they didn't want it. They didn't try to prevent someone from making the magazine. Someone brought it into their world.
I know this may shock some people here but everyone is not required to approve or like you lifestyle and they same thing applies to you.
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D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
If grown adults refuse to look at implied women on magazines then why should we care? It was a free gift that they didn't ask for. Nudity or not, unsolicited "gifts" aren't really "wanted".
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Brian Diaz
Posts: 65617
Danbury, Connecticut, US
GQ has the right to publish it.
Lands End has the right to send it to anyone they like.
The people who see it have the right to dislike it and complain as loudly as they like. (They do not have the right not to be offended.)
We have the right to say that those people are whiny whiners and should just throw away mail they don't like, which is something most of us do every day. Or we have the right to say something else.
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D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Caitin Bre wrote:
Does anyone else think its wrong to call it porn?
People on the Lands End facebook page are calling it Obscene, Pornographic, Soft Porn. Maybe it is soft porn. Ever hear of food porn? Porn is in the eye of the beholder.
Your pretty nudes is some guys fap book and another guys evil devil work
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JC Strick
Posts: 713
Dalton, Georgia, US
Ya' can't send topless magazines to religious households.
“My 14-year-old son brought in the mail today & was quite disturbed & fascinated by a ‘gift’ "
A mother telling an audience of millions that her teenage son is disturbed by boobs. Yeah, that kid is going to have serious issues after that...
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udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
JC Strick wrote:
A mother telling an audience of millions that her teenage son is disturbed by boobs. Yeah, that kid is going to have serious issues after that... His eyes probably swell... he started to sweat uncontrollably, his tongue started to hang out, he salivated, licking his lips ... and his mother thought he was "disturbed"...
She probably kept such "aggressive pornography" away from him his whole life... and he only heard of it in the school yards... and finally saw what he knows will guide his life...
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JC Strick
Posts: 713
Dalton, Georgia, US
udor wrote:
His eyes probably swell... he started to sweat uncontrollably, his tongue started to hang out, he salivated, licking his lips ... and his mother thought he was "disturbed"...
She probably kept such "aggressive pornography" away from him his whole life... and he only heard of it in the school yards... and finally saw what he knows will guide his life...
I'm not so sure about that. I can't imagine a 14 YO boy telling his mother about finding such gold in the mailbox. My mother used to get those VS catalogs in the mail and between my brother and I, she never received one single issue of it.
I would have slit my wrists before telling my mother about finding those!
This kid in ten years:
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Brooklyn Bridge Images
Posts: 13200
Brooklyn, New York, US
The Irony about America is
The Bible Belt bunch getting panties in a twit about a woman’s body damaging the minds of their kids.
But are fine with them playing 1st person shooter games, 18hrs a day and wonder why the rise in kids Blowing up/shooting up their schools.
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D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
The Irony about America is
The Bible Belt bunch getting panties in a twit about a woman’s body damaging the minds of their kids.
But are fine with them playing 1st person shooter games, 18hrs a day and wonder why the rise in kids Blowing up/shooting up their schools. Yes because video games make people want to kill other people...I wonder why my 10 year old isn't standing outside his school with my fiance's AR ready to shoot anything that moves...hmm
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JC Strick
Posts: 713
Dalton, Georgia, US
Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
The Irony about America is
The Bible Belt bunch getting panties in a twit about a woman’s body damaging the minds of their kids.
But are fine with them playing 1st person shooter games, 18hrs a day and wonder why the rise in kids Blowing up/shooting up their schools. When I was a kid, I didn't jump on turtles, bang my head on brick blocks, and I never had the desire to jump in open sewer pipes.
Damn video games didn't work for me 
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D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
The Irony about America is
The Bible Belt bunch getting panties in a twit about a woman’s body damaging the minds of their kids.
But are fine with them playing 1st person shooter games, 18hrs a day and wonder why the rise in kids Blowing up/shooting up their schools. You're trying to make fun of the "Bible Belt bunch" yet you just made the same claim about video games that they made.
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Randy Poe
Posts: 1638
Green Cove Springs, Florida, US
Cant you see were all being had.
Bad publicity is great publicity and this fits, but lets all have fun blaming and bashing every cultural difference just the same.
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DwLPhoto
Posts: 808
Palo Alto, California, US
Oh gosh I'm so floored because some people don't like a particular photograph.
Hardly the most bizarre behavior by humans.
The US could be like other countries, and you get your head cut off and stuck on a post downtown because you're a Methodist instead of a Pentecostal.
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Amul La La
Posts: 885
London, England, United Kingdom
Caitin Bre wrote:
I don't see anything at all wrong with how she is dressed. I see nothing un-natural at all about it.
I also believe nudity is normal. Clothing is not normal or we would grow them on our bodies.
I also believe to teach a society that nudity is wrong and bad is not right. That it is abnormal psychology. The fact of the matter is, what is normality to you, might not be normal to other's, frustrating as that may seem. You have a right to love what you love, and others have a right to hate what you love (for no good reason perhaps), you can argue their prudish state of mind, but (I'm not sure about the abnormalities notion), indoctrinating people to feel how you feel is not conjusive to the feel of (freedom), everyone is entitled to feel how they feel about anything (free speech and all).
There will be people who will always take that view, I think you're getting worked up over nothing much.
P.s EmilyRat is beautiful.
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
Amul La La wrote:
The fact of the matter is, what is normality to you, might not be normal to other's, frustrating as that may seem. You have a right to love what you love, and others have a right to hate what you love (for no good reason perhaps), you can argue their prudish state of mind, but (I'm not sure about the abnormalities notion), indoctrinating people to feel how you feel is not conjusive to the feel of (freedom), everyone is entitled to feel how they feel about anything (free speech and all).
There will be people who will always take that view, I think you're getting worked up over nothing much.
P.s EmilyRat is beautiful. Actually I'm not worked up about it. I am just expressing myself loudly.
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Caitin Bre
Posts: 2687
Apache Junction, Arizona, US
udor wrote:
His eyes probably swell... he started to sweat uncontrollably, his tongue started to hang out, he salivated, licking his lips ... and his mother thought he was "disturbed"...
She probably kept such "aggressive pornography" away from him his whole life... and he only heard of it in the school yards... and finally saw what he knows will guide his life...
I remember I think it was the 5th or 6th grade the boys were obsessed with drawing boobies and coochies. It was funny to see what they came up with and how wrong some were. The groups used to argue about who had the most accurate descriptions as us girls just laughed at them when they were caught.
I remember that some of the boys fathers would take them to a brothel for there 1st time so they had no more questions about it as the boy turned 16. Of coarse there was the puritans that called that child abuse and such. fathers would argue that it was just there way of sex education.
What is natural and normal feelings become sins and deep confusions when taught to go against nature.
It is the Bible thumpers who pay the most for nude photography and discretion. Thats what kills me. But i must not complain because its good money. Hypocrisy pays very well.
A porn website that takes amateur submissions reported from a 2 year survey that the large majority of there submissions and 80% of there paying clients come from the bible belt and the puritanical hypocrites.
What does going against nature in teachings makes any sense anymore. To anyone?
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Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 33355
Dearborn, Michigan, US
sweetcheekscouture wrote:
it wasn't a very smart business move
you better know your demographic . . . It was an obvious mistake by someone.
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Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 33355
Dearborn, Michigan, US
Danielle Reid wrote:
You're trying to make fun of the "Bible Belt bunch" yet you just made the same claim about video games that they made. Very perceiving! 
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WIP
Posts: 15973
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom
Excelsior Photography wrote:
Just read an article in the NYTimes Business section quoting a woman as saying her 14-yr-old son was "quite disturbed" by the photo.
I'll bet! Disturbed because Emily Ratajkowski is usually wearing a lot less.
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Cherrystone
Posts: 37171
Columbus, Ohio, US
WIP wrote:
Disturbed because Emily Ratajkowski is usually wearing a lot less. *runsofftoGooglesoI'llbeoffendedandscreamaboutit*
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Poor choice of a cover for a free magazine based on the retailer's typical clientele.
Their clientele need to get over themselves though.
Complaining about it I am in 100% support for. Just contact them and ask them to not sending you any free gifts or if they must, at least make sure it is the same conservative taste as the company they enjoy buying from.
That's all that needs to be said.
Calling it pornography, soft core...whatever the fuck they think...yeah, you're a ding bat. STFU and get that stick out your ass...might feel better.
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
The Irony about America is
The Bible Belt bunch getting panties in a twit about a woman’s body damaging the minds of their kids.
But are fine with them playing 1st person shooter games, 18hrs a day and wonder why the rise in kids Blowing up/shooting up their schools. stick to the topic...avoid getting soapbox please.
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AJ_In_Atlanta
Posts: 13053
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Nothing implied there, she is topless.
I am sure the 14 year old who was disturbed will continue to shop there as well as be disturbed often, several times a day, like most young boys. Maybe they should also tell him that being disturbed too often will make him go blind lol.
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