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Phone selfies in a portfolio on Model Mayhem.... How do you feel about this when you see them? Would anyone use them to your advantage and book them for your portfolio anyway? Or would anyone not take that user seriously and move onto the next MM account? Comment away. Aug 22 14 07:42 pm Link My opinion is that they're fine to find non-paid testing and photo projects. As far as any paid professional work goes, no. "Selfies" are hardly professional and anyone trying to get paid to be a professional should at least have some previous work in their portfolio to show their skill and experience. It's insulting when a model only wants to do paid work and they've been absolutely no time into their career, besides taking selfies. Aug 22 14 09:08 pm Link Aside from one to show a current look w/o MU ..... They are dumb as fuck. Aug 23 14 08:38 am Link I'd say selfies are OK until you have better. If you have a good image why not use it? Aug 23 14 08:42 am Link As long as they are not making selfie-type faces I don't mind. I don't really like heavily post produced pro images, they lie- I'd prefer a mug shot. Aug 23 14 08:45 am Link I am fine with them if they are done well http://www.wmagazine.com/video/fashion- … supermodel I think a lot of young models do them to learn their best angles and expressions Aug 23 14 08:46 am Link A photo is a photo. The quality of an image can be assessed on two measures: the aesthetic and the technical. Many photographers strive for the technical, using expensive equipment & years of honing their technical skills. To many, the technical becomes very important. However, I personally believe that the aesthetic measures are far more important than the technical. I'd rather look at an interesting picture from a cheap camera (like a smartphone) than a boring picture from the most expensive camera in the world. So, if you've got an exciting, spontaneous, enthusiastic, well composed selfie -- I wanna see it. If you've got a boring, dull image of you standing in front of your bathroom mirror with lousy bathroom light -- I've seen it, and I don't need to see more. Note: I expect most photographers here won't like seeing selfies in portfolios, because selfies mean that the model didn't work with a photographer. Aug 23 14 08:50 am Link Perfectly acceptable. In fact, I think MM should stipulate that every model portfolio should have at least one recent selfie. Aug 23 14 08:50 am Link Samonster Rose wrote: Samonster Rose wrote: I wouldn't take them seriously as far as previous experience. Certainly if they said "very experienced" and wanted payment, such pictures would be a negative. Aug 23 14 08:52 am Link Selfies have their place, but I don't think they belong in my portfolio. I pretty regularly post selfies on my linked photo blog. That way clients can see them and outtakes from my shoots with no risk of me being judged as unprofessional. It's all about context. Aug 23 14 08:55 am Link Looknsee Photography wrote: I think this has a lot of merit, but misses the simple point; a "clean" unmanipulated" Selfie tells me a lot more about the models skin, and eyes, than some massively manipulated "senior picture" or an image from a "glamour studio." Aug 23 14 08:55 am Link Mortonovich wrote: This. Aug 23 14 09:05 am Link 
Photographer Posts: 302 MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica A good photographer and make up artist can change the looks of a model dramatically. A selfie is a real photo. I see nothing wrong with a model posting them. Aug 23 14 09:19 am Link Kent Art Photography wrote: I agree. A quick snap to show the current look/hair, etc. of the model is quite useful in fact. Aug 23 14 11:10 am Link If you are a celebrity, then people really like them If you are not . . . . does anybody even care about others selfies? Most people are too self-centered and only care about their own selfies. Aug 23 14 11:25 am Link One. Sure. Two... Maybe if it shows something that the first doesn't. 12? Stupid. 12 out of the 15 you're allowed to have? Tells me the model is not very serious about modeling. Aug 23 14 11:25 am Link Jccny wrote: Perhaps you should have one. Aug 23 14 11:26 am Link Looknsee Photography wrote: I am working with a model in 2 weeks. All I have seen of her is a couple selfies on FB --- one of the prettiest girls I have ever seen in my life. Aug 23 14 11:41 am Link Everyone starts somewhere. While selfies are generally not as good as photos taken by a knowledgeable photographer, they are better than nothing. I've worked with a few newbie models based on what I saw of them in selfies they had. Aug 23 14 11:53 am Link Samonster Rose wrote: They're actually against the site Aug 23 14 11:57 am Link Depends on the number of selfies, the purpose, and the attitude of the person displaying them. One or two? Used to show how you look without all the glitz and glamour? Fine, actually encouraged. 14...of you right before you head out to the club? Unnecessary. Also, if you're new I think it's highly unrealistic to expect you to have anything else. Some people on this site just have issues and will shit on you for having even one selfie...so just expect that. But, if you've got a bunch of cell-phone selfies and you're walking around with your nose turned up at everyone else, or expecting to be paid (or even worse, soliciting paid work) then you're probably not going to be well-received. Aug 23 14 12:16 pm Link There are duck faced selfies and then there are self portraits. I find selfies to be tremendously helpful in seeing what a model looks like in real life. If the model doesn't have one in her portfolio, I usually ask for one before I book her. So many times models pics are so over photoshopped that when the model shows up, she doesn't look like her portfolio. Then I just have to send her home and we both waste each others time. I want to see a real life depiction of what I'm booking. Aug 23 14 12:28 pm Link Alot of good insight from all of you. Though for me, personally, I wouldn't upload a selfie to my portfolio on MM. That's what my Facebook and Instagram are for, along with more of my modeling work. I know that many photographers do not have a Facebook or Instagram, but I think anyone would gladly email their current look. I wouldnt want to break the rules on MM.  Thank you for all your opinions! Xo Aug 23 14 01:06 pm Link I have loads of selfies in my portfolios, some with timers, some handheld, some with mobile devices. They are good for filling in gaps in the portfolio, trying out ideas and keeping up to date with appearance changes like hair styles. Aug 23 14 03:18 pm Link JadeDRed wrote: Didn't look at yours, so there's no chance of me being accused of "unsolicited critique." Aug 23 14 06:38 pm Link if it is all they have, its all they have. Aug 23 14 11:57 pm Link Looknsee Photography wrote: -JAY- wrote: I'm a photographer of the nude & a communication hub for the local photographic community. I'm moderately well known. On occasion, I get a "wanna photograph me?" query from a stranger, and most of the time, these requests don't interest me or they fall apart long before we nail down a date & time. No biggie. Aug 24 14 10:42 am Link Samonster Rose wrote: To me, no excuse. It screams somebody who isn't serious and either created a profile thinking mm was another myspace, Instagram, Facebook type site or it's someone who wants to say 'I'm a model' and have people tell her she is pretty. I say she because I've yet to see male models ever deploy selfies. Aug 24 14 10:49 am Link Demeter Photography wrote: or it could be some 16 year old future supermodel who hasn't done a real shoot yet Aug 24 14 11:12 am Link Locutus wrote: Quite right. An experienced person should be able to see past any shortcomings in a photograph to the person beyond. Aug 24 14 11:13 am Link Garry k wrote: There are a hundred better options than a cell phone selfie. Aug 24 14 11:19 am Link Likely part of the Youtube and cell phone generation. They grew up with it, and probably why things like some older photographer's work doesn't impress them and visa versa. Heck, some Youtube generationals don't even watch TV, or even a big screen TV, and bury their noses in their phones or tablets. Wedding I attended had cell phone snappers all over the place uploading to the couple's Cloud site that appeared on the big screen in the hall. The DJ was running the uploading show and maybe part of his hiring too. Some shots off some phones were pretty good on the screen. No pro photographer was there, just the invites who all had a phone to play with. The couple had a bunch of photos off their setup. Seems more of a shifting demographics or generational thing to me. I wouldn't be surprised if even more move to the cellnet than off the "oldsters" internet and less quality images becoming acceptable due to bandwidth loading than one would expect to see had it been a normal print or some large megapixel and Photoshop'd image. imho, of course. Aug 24 14 11:30 am Link I've found selfies are decent enough to show the models face, features, body etc... but a porfolio full of selfies also shows that the "Model" hasn't bothered to show up to anyone's studio so far and will be a higher flake rate for booking, so don't bet on their reliability. Aug 24 14 11:47 am Link Demeter Photography wrote: This. If a person can't find a friend or relative who'll spend a half hour taking a few reasonably nice photos of them, then they have some other issues in their life that they perhaps should be addressing. Aug 24 14 12:28 pm Link   Aug 24 14 07:03 pm Link Maybe an abduction victim, posting a cry for help. Help, I've been abducted by my lack of style. Aug 24 14 08:01 pm Link not worth more than this reply....you want paid based on this? Aug 24 14 08:17 pm Link JadeDRed wrote: Selfies can say more and show more than crap photographer shots. But, if your selfies suck, then don't post them. Don't post them. Don't post them. Aug 24 14 08:18 pm Link I came across on some selfies being better in quality then some photographer shots. I am fine with them being on ports as long as they don't look like hooker ads like found sometime on craigslist. Aug 24 14 08:40 pm Link As said above, only to show how you look currently, hair length, color, minimal make-up etc...and only one. Aug 24 14 08:54 pm Link |
