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Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: Aug 30 14 05:30 pm Link David Stone Imaging wrote: DougBPhoto wrote: Yes, very typical behavior. I have been shooting models for ten years and am friends with numerous models. They all go through this, nothing new, they either report it or ignore it. Aug 30 14 05:34 pm Link Model Mode Studio wrote: I guess the 1 percent are from pervs who want to shoot bad cheesy glamour pics... Aug 30 14 05:36 pm Link Model Mode Studio wrote: Hey, the ones I know that left did so because of being pressured to shoot cheesy bikini and lingerie images TFP. Aug 30 14 05:41 pm Link People come here expecting photographers to come to them and get frustrated when their inbox isn't being bombared with requests to shoot, and they leave. It's just not how the business works in any industry. People won't be coming to you until you have a good foot in the industry with an impressive portfolio. Aug 30 14 07:19 pm Link The new members I noticed dropping out had to do with forum attacks before MM cracked down on the cliques (gangs). They just didn't want any part of it and realized it was a mistake joining. Aug 30 14 08:02 pm Link Might be unrelated, but generally (from what I hear of those I know who quit) they either get flooded with requests that are scams or just plain bizarre/unprofessional. The other complaint I've heard is that there's just too much nudity. Aug 31 14 03:21 pm Link We need Batman Aug 31 14 03:44 pm Link Tony Lawrence wrote: It all depends on how important MM is to them. If I was getting a lot of crap on here I'd leave because it's not that important to me. If it was a little I'd stay because its not useless to me either. Aug 31 14 03:54 pm Link odd aint it? Aug 31 14 06:18 pm Link Yknow, there's ample Veteran models on the site..... Just thought I'd point that pink elephant out since I don't really care why new models are leaving.. There's quite a few of us, who travel and shoot often. A lot of ladies who model full time. A lot of girls trying to get to that full time point who need good trade. Just pointing the rest of us out. Aug 31 14 07:47 pm Link Eyesso wrote: Hehehehe:) Aug 31 14 07:47 pm Link some are just going to FB or CL because they get more paying offers, others, like stated just get tired of the creeps and they have told me about them, sure the trend on every media site will shift and change Aug 31 14 08:01 pm Link There are many great things about Model Mayhem, but one of the least appealing aspects is the occasional discussion thread, like this one. where people directly or indirectly call everybody who does not work in the same genres as they do creeps, perverts, amateurs, GWCs, etc. It is so terribly narrow-minded and immature, and totally out of place in a huge and very diverse community devoted to creative endeavours. I have been on Model Mayhem for four years, and have mostly specialzed in artsy nudes here. I have taken many workshops filled with fellow MM members and attended numerous group photography events across the country, so I have met and extensively interacted with at least a couple of hundred photographers, most on MM, who are applying themselves to photographing nudes. And I have to say that as far as I can see, almost all of them are just regular people with the same zeal for photography as those pursuing other type of photography. They are generally more concerned about making good images, and about equipment and techniques, than ogling nude models. Of course not all are very talented or artistic, no more than is the norm for other type of photography. And there is no doubt in my mind that there is an occasional real GWC in the bunch - guys who are not even really trying their best at the photography, but are in this just for the female contact (but I'm not sure that is limited at all to nude photography). But to those who think most photographers who pursue nude photography are perverts or suspect people, I say this is total misconception that has no basis in reality. Yes, models are sometimes harassed by creeps, but these are probably the same relatively few creeps bothering a huge number of different models. I wish MM had a more efficient way to weed out such inappropriate members. Equally unfair and unrealistic assertions are sometimes seen in MM discussion threads implying that models who do nudes are somehow less professional than those who hang clothes on their bodies for photoshoots. I have worked with about 80 nude models so far, and nearly without exception they have conducted themselves in a highly professional manner. I am very selective and only work with well-paid and experienced models, so maybe that has biased my perception. But I wish certain fellow MM members would quit unfounded negative generalizations about both the huge number of photographers and countless models pursuing together work in nude photography. Aug 31 14 09:25 pm Link Model Mode Studio wrote: What would be nice to see?... how about moderators contacting 'short term member' models and asking they WHY they left after only a brief membership. If the responses lead to the models being contacted by some re-occurring 'creepers and pervs' of the site... maybe taking some action against such A-holes (possibly even banishment) might resort in purging the site of some 'undesireables'... Sep 01 14 09:16 pm Link |