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I have some ideas but I want to hear more. I just shot on a mid-blue background. A very saturated blue. I shot with one light in various modifiers and positions. There was glare off the background so I lost some saturation. Any tips to reduce this and get the true saturated tone of the paper? Oct 22 14 06:14 pm Link move the camera a little to the left or right. Get the sensor plane and background plane to intersect instead of being parallel. The background light would need to be on the same side as the point of interaction of the planes. ie move cam left light should be to your left and right if you move right. Good Luck Oct 22 14 06:32 pm Link Gelling the background light with a color similar to it helps too. Least any uncontrolled glare will appear much like the background's color. Makes it richer in color too, imho. Oct 22 14 06:43 pm Link are you over lighting the background? i don't recall having it be glary unless i was using bare bulb (or reflector bowl) or there wasn't any ambient. overblown, though, is easy to do. you could try bouncing the light, using an umbrella, sheet, a larger modifier, something to make it less glary. when I'm using one background light on the floor to go behind a headshot i often add layers of material to get the edges soft enough. to evenly light a background some people use two lights, sometimes with large modifiers. paper kind of sucks, though, because you often wind up with nasty blotchiness noise, creases, etc. sometimes i think muslin wasn't so bad after all. Oct 22 14 07:46 pm Link mschlocker wrote: That would be your problem right there. Oct 22 14 08:36 pm Link Thanks a lot guys, I really like the gelled background light idea. Angles of incidence/reflection, definitely. Oct 23 14 04:37 am Link The angle of reflectance is equal to the angle of incidence. If you are getting reflectance, your lights are going to have to move, or the type of light is going to have to change. Oct 23 14 06:49 am Link Good Egg Productions wrote: I shoot with one light all the time -- I don't have a glare problem but I do buy the non-reflective seamless and make sure to pull away from background as well angle my light. Oct 23 14 09:31 am Link mschlocker wrote: Good Egg Productions wrote: no, that's not necessary. it's rare for me to get any glare with one light - and i shot with one light a lot. there is more to it then just the angle. Oct 23 14 12:56 pm Link As a post workflow item to all the great comments above and aside from the saturation issue, some colors for me are hard to get spot on, even when using the correct white balance. I use an X-Rite when whatever I'm shooting is color critical. I wouldn't say you need one for all colors or situations though. If you use Lightroom you can build a color profile. http://xritephoto.com/ph_product_overview.aspx?id=1257 Oct 23 14 01:53 pm Link It is really quite simple procedure to have your studio background look black /white or any saturation of color you would desire. (Regardless of the Background ( BG) being a Gray or White medium ... be it muslin, paper or wall paint) To do this you must be able to check and then control the relative difference in the amount of light between your background and subject. You will need to first isolate the background from any (visible spill light that will show up digital or film) . Once you achieve isolation you can add to the background the correct % of light with or with out a gel to achieve Black ,White or any Color Saturation you desire. Isolation will happen at just over 3 f stops difference in relative light. Effectively 3 stops less light (on the BG).. between your shooting aperture -incident flash meter reading (taken at the subject) and a background refelctive flash meter reading will cause the background to go black (regardless of the background color, either white or gray ) 1st: make certain your back ground is not contaminated by any spill light from your main or kicker lights you have set to light your subject. Contamination by spill light will wash out richness of you background color and make it impossible to control the ability to obtain in camera rich black or dark gray , or to reproduce a consistent color saturation any time you shoot using color gels /filters on your back ground lights . You do this by setting your subject lights first (no back ground light on) . Flash Meter for incident light at your subject ( eg . you meter f11 ) . : Now Change your Flash Meter to take a reflective flash reading/ not incident flash reading Pop/Flash your subject strobe lights again …but this time take a reflective Flash meter reading off of the unlit background. If you can obtain at least a 3 stop difference (BG minus 3 stops) between the Flash reflective meter reading of the BG and the Flash incident meter reading at your subject …you will have effectively validated that there will be no visible contamination by flash spill light on the BG in the imagery . ( Eg incident subject reading f 11 , reflective background f 4 ) If you want a Black BG.. well you just obtained it with a 3 stop (less) difference in the reflective flash meter reading taken off you BG . ( a Gray BG will be black ...White BG will now be almost black or extreamly dark gray ) If you want White background … add a BG light and get your reflective flash meter reading of the BG to read plus (+)2-2/3 to (+)3 stops over your subject incident light flash meter reading. (NOTE: if you have previously validated isolation of the BG fromany flash spill light ) you will not need to be concerned with possiable background flash spill/bounce light( comming off of the BG ) causing washout/haze from reflective light off of the BG and on to your subject . A background metered a just over (+) 3 stops (reflective light flash metered off of the BG) more than your subject flash incident light metered reading can cause this haze effect ..which can also happen if the subject is too close to the BG .( Sometimes this BG spill/haze is desirable for the image .. it's your choice ) Adding background color and getting whatever color and saturation to look the same any time you wish (reproduced in any studio)is pretty much done for your shoot if you have isolated the BG from spill light . This is a technique perfected and demonstrated by one of the best..Photographer Dean Collins. His technique required that you first produce/shoot a ONE TIME TEST Shoot to produce a series of studio test images(to be used as color/saturation..test clips).. taken of a Gel lit BG using one BG light illuminating on to a gray or white background. You would start this shoot.. by adjusting the intensity of Color Gel BG light..using the power adjustment .This BG ( light is positioned at CAMERA position and at least 6 feet from the BG for the test) This BG light is adjusted to get a BG reflective meter reading to match your lenses mid scale aperture value . Lets use f 8 (as the lense mid scale f stop )..on a lens (having a range of.. f 2.8 -f 22) Once this is done you take your first test image with your camera Lense set to its mid scale. ( eg at f 8 ) which will be called (GEL -0)image and will produce an image of the BG with a color and saturation very close to the gel color itself( as long as you have no spill light on the BG ...isolated) . You then proceed to shoot a series of images of your BG using the same Gelled /Filter BG light ..( at the same power level ) but change the lense f stop /aperture in incremental one half f stops above + and one half f stops below - from your lens mid aperture value ( eg lens aperture range f 2.8 -f22)..start your test at f 8 (mid scale ) and dial up and down from there . This results in obtaining a set of images (your test clip images for that color)of a BG color with various intensity of saturations..( achieved for the TEST by keeping the light power the same but adjusting the lense F stop to vary the intenisity of color saturation for each Test Clip image ).. You can then can select any of your Test Clip images and reproduced that exact color saturation at any time and at any studio/location.. by just adjusting you BG light reflective readings ratio to the subject lights incident readings as set for the production of that particular test clip image .. Your test clip of BG saturation color for any particular Color GEL would be: (GEL-0) and than (GEL +1/2) & (GEL -1/2) than (GEL +1) &( GEL -1) than ( GEL +1-1/2) & ( Gel -1-1/2) than (GEL+2) & (GEL -2) ,( GEL +2 -1/2) & ( GEL-2 -1/2) You just Substitute the actual Filter /Gel idenity eg. (Rosco 342) which is Rose Pink… for GEL term( above ) and you have (R342-0) (R342+1) , (R342-1 ) ect, Starting at lens mid scale aperture/f stop when producing your GEL test clip prevents you from having to adjust or change the light intensity or move the BG light distance from the BG . This will produce a more accurate and reproducible set of color saturation test clip images that at any future time and with almost any background can be reproduce in any studio by just dialing in (adjusting ratio of light difference between Subject and BG to match the ratio shot with your test clip images)the delta F stop from the (GEL -0 ) value ... will provide you the ability to produce the same saturation of you color test clips. The color clip tests images for each of the color gels that you have produced can then be used for any of your shoots to set up your lighting ratios ..(between the Subject and BG ) to reporduce a background color saturation exactly the same as the pre selected test clip color saturation you shot for the Test above . You can present your test clip images to a client for their selection of a BG color/saturation prior to the shoot and know you can product this exact color saturation by keeping you lighting ratios the same as when exposing the selected test clip image during the Test Shoot ( above ) . Examples To obtain a BG with the same color saturation as the GEL /Filter . Make sure the BG is isolated form spill and just meter you BG ( with a reflective flash meter reading )to achieve the same f stop incident flash meter reading you read at your subject. (eg. Subject incident flash meter reading = f 11 , BG reflective reading needs to be adjusted (via flash power ) to give a BG reflective flash reading of F11 also , ( Shoot with your lense set at the subjects incident light meter reading ( in this ex. F 11 ) to obtain the exact the Test Clip (GEL 0) saturation . Want a deep vibrant color for the BG ( as seen in your (GEL -2 ) test clip image ) than keep the shooting aperture to that measured at the Subject by the incident light meter reading ( in this eg. f 11 ), but set your BG gelled light power to give reflective light meter reading of ( in this eg. f 5.6 ) which is 2 stops under the (GEL-0) saturation ....( NOTE : this is the same 2 stop reduction as done during your test clip production of ( GEL -2) which is an image of a BG with deep vibrant saturation of the gel color ) ..shoot with the aperture set to the incident flash meter reading ( F 11 for this example ). Want a Light pastel color for the BG as seen in your ( GEL +1/1.2)test clip image.... than set your BG gelled light to give a reflective flash reading of (eg f 19 ) which is +1-1/2 stop over your subject incident flash meter reading of ( eg f 11 ) ..Shoot with the aperture set to the incident light meter reading tmeasured at the subject position (for this example ..at F 11) So at any time at any studio/location with most BG ( regardless of BG being .. white or gray and in some cases even black ) .. as long as you have isolated the BG from any stray light ,you can produce the exact BG color saturation , by adjusting the BG gelled light to give a reflective light meter reading F stop value either , above , below or to the same value of shooting aperture ( Lighting F stop measured at your subject with your incident light flash meter . Look at your test clips images (determine the BG color saturation you want your BG to have )and adjust the ratio of BG lighting (as displayed with a reflective meter reading ) to your shooting aperture (determine from incident light reading )of the subject . Oct 23 14 08:13 pm Link |