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So, what do you think about THIS? It seems that one Casey Nocket has taken to using various national parks as her canvas. Although what she does is not necessarily photography she has achieved fame and/or notoriety by photographing and posting evidence of her works, so I'm using that as reason to post it on an Industry Forum. How is this the same as or different from urban graffiti? Does the fact that things like this are happening affect your view of whether permits or fees should be involved in the use of national and state parks for photography? Oct 24 14 11:05 am Link still-photography wrote: There is no relationship between photographing and destroying even if pictures are taken after. Oct 24 14 11:13 am Link Is it chalk or paint? Looks like a permanent marker in one case. Oct 24 14 11:15 am Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Acrylic paint Oct 24 14 11:16 am Link Actually you know what? What she's doing is illegal. The last time I posted a graffiti-related thread it was actually locked on the grounds that it discussed illegal activities. Oct 24 14 11:17 am Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: My memory may be faulty. I think I found the thread and while I posted in it it wasn't my thread and it concerned someone posting about their upcoming court date for a graffiti arrest. I just remembered it as 'graffiti thread = locked' Oct 24 14 11:21 am Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: ? Oct 24 14 11:22 am Link  Shepard Fairey created a brand and a business out of nothing but ubiquitous advertising space he didn't pay for, as I understand it, so I imagine a lot of other people would like to build their brand awareness as well.  Oct 24 14 11:27 am Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: What do you think about that? Is there any honest difference between painting on the side of a building (not owned by you) and painting on a rock on public land? Oct 24 14 11:32 am Link Leave everything the way it was when you came to it so that the next person can experience it like the last. The idea that it is art is poppycock... It is vandalism and nothing more or less. The people own the parks and she doesn't have permission from the people to paint up that property and I doubt very seriously that she would ever get people to agree to her doing so. The idea of making these lands parks was to preserve there natural form. I am on the more extreme side of protecting the natural environment and leaving it the way it was. I even pack out my horse shit in a bag. I get frustrated at what motorized vehicles do to the property as well. Guess I am old... But I like going to the parks to escape signs of human civilization. Oct 24 14 11:32 am Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: First, I think it's funny that this site disallows hot-linking. Oct 24 14 11:33 am Link still-photography wrote: I wouldn't want anything on my buildings (if I had buildings). I don't have bumper stickers on my car. Oct 24 14 11:37 am Link NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote: Odd, it's working now. You shamed them into allowing it... Oct 24 14 11:37 am Link still-photography wrote: I still no longer see it. Oct 24 14 11:40 am Link Here is the 'graffiti all you want' area at my old school, and you couldn't get from West Campus to East Campus without passing through this bridge/tunnel, so graffiti there got wide exposure. https://www.flickr.com/photos/carlacarl … 832690780/ And here they are demolishing it after many decades for traffic reasons. I hope they replace it with a similar area. https://today.duke.edu/2013/06/bridgedemo#photo Oct 24 14 11:42 am Link Caitin Bre wrote: What do you think about urban versions of that? Is Banksy an artist or a vandal? Oct 24 14 12:07 pm Link still-photography wrote: I really don't have much of a opinion on urban graffiti. I have seen some that actually improves the environment that I thought was kinda kewl. I kinda like watching trains go by with it. But again its on man made in a man made environment so I think its more in its place. So I guess its ok. Oct 24 14 12:14 pm Link still-photography wrote: I think a lot of this has some relationship to the concept of 'punching up' vs 'punching down.' Oct 24 14 12:43 pm Link I think it is nothing but vandalism and I would like her to be held accountable! The rule for all parks is that you leave it the way you found it, so all can enjoy it unmolested. Oct 24 14 01:25 pm Link I think that's what happens when you encourage the use of the environment for over sized, ridiculous "art" installations from over hyped "artists". The original did removable installations.......the copycats are nothing but vandals. Oct 24 14 01:34 pm Link What do I think? I think Casey Nocket is a piece of shit. Oct 24 14 01:36 pm Link Andy Goldsworthy would be a good example of an artist that uses the earth as his canvas. Casey Nocket is just a hack piece of shit on the same level as the idiots that scrawl on gas pumps. Oct 24 14 01:40 pm Link still-photography wrote: Other than the objects she's using as her canvas have taken millions of years to form.. nothing.......right? Oct 24 14 01:43 pm Link I don't think this has much if anything to do with the discussion of photographic permits on national property. It's just vandalism. Oct 24 14 01:45 pm Link J O H N A L L A N wrote: I tend to agree, but... Oct 24 14 02:07 pm Link still-photography wrote: Yeah - that's a really good point. Oct 24 14 03:51 pm Link I go to National Parks to view the scenery not somebody's graffiti, even if it is temporary (though some looked like permanent marker). Whether or not it's art is not the point, it detracts from experience for all. Oct 24 14 03:56 pm Link "Art" and "Vandalism" are not mutually exclusive terms any more than are "Art" and "Nude" or "Photography" or "Graffiti". Things can be, and often are, both at the same time. I think that what this young lady does is both art and vandalism in that the work fits within most definitions of art and causes unauthorized damage to property that is not hers to damage. Had Borgium not been authorized to carve the presidents' likenesses there, Mount Rushmore would probably qualify as the biggest single act of vandalism ever committed. All IMHO as always, of course. Oct 24 14 04:40 pm Link This was on CBS AM news. Seems Feds are chasing her with felony charges as she hits various national parks with her work. Something about posting her work to Instagram and them tracking her too. There's more here: http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_2 … who-marred National Park Service weighed in too: http://home.nps.gov/news/release.htm?id=1649 She's been a busy girl. Somehow, I got a feeling she is going to be made an example of what not to do in national parks with acrylic oils. Oct 24 14 04:57 pm Link GRMACK wrote: I for one am glad she will be caught for her illegal art. She is f...ing it up for my illeagal nude photography Oct 24 14 05:12 pm Link The whole point of wanting commercial photographers to get permits is not to make money, but to protect the parks from damage and from impacting the enjoyment of other park visitors. This vandalism has nothing to do with permits because damaging the parks is not allowed under any circumstances, permit or not. She's a crappy "artist" and an evil person. I hope they make an example out of her in case anyone else ever thinks of pulling off such an idiotic stunt. She can spend a few years talking about her "art" to her new friends in federal prison. And spend the rest of her life paying off the fines and restitution. Oct 24 14 05:44 pm Link Oct 24 14 06:11 pm Link still-photography wrote: If his "art" ( which I think is often cool ) is on a building ( or whatever ) he doesn't own, or have permission to work on, he's a vandal. Oct 24 14 06:53 pm Link  This is Bake Oven Knob along the Appalachian Trail on Blue Mountain. Carbon County to the North. Berks and Lehigh County to the South. This shot is looking Southeasterly towards Allentown, PA. The rock in the foreground is one of the rocks with the least amount of paint on it. The boulder field on the knob is about two acres. Few rocks are unpainted. Bake Oven Knob is a short walk from a parking area on State Game Lands. It is an easy place to carry in beer and paint. I haven't seen one piece of art up there that is 1/100th as amazing as the rocks, moss and lichens they covered up. There is paint all along the area but fortunately, Bear Claw Rocks and the Pinnacle are not as accessible as Bake Oven Knob. Too hard to carry a paint can a mile or more, I guess. The shot below is looking Northeasterly towards the Pocono Plateau, across the saddle (a great Hawk watch for the fall migration), and the Delaware Water Gap.  Oct 24 14 08:05 pm Link Take nothing but pictures.. Leave nothing but foot prints. The man had a great respect for nature and it's beauty! Living in New York I am accustomed to street "art" and appreciate it when it is well done, and have taken a lot of pictures to prove it! Oct 26 14 04:44 pm Link as a long time distance hiker (weeks in the forest/trail) I commonly pack large trash bags with me... not for my own needs, but to pick up debris & discarded trash left by others. I am frequently amazed by the lack of respect some people have for others or the environment, and readily confront them when they do so in my presence. what this girl "in her own childish mentality" is not only selfish, but I find truly disgusting. Let's not confuse what she's doing; which is blatant defacing of the natural scenery with her freakish and ugly graffiti, and shows a horrid lack of regard for the land or others. She is NOT an artist, her cr@ppy style is grotesque and shows no skill; despite her blatant ignorance of how offensive it is to others. For one, her parents should be embarrassed for failing to teach her a min level of dignity, and displays the actions of a person with no conscience. I hope they catch & prosecute her asap, and that her reputation as an idiot follows her the rest of her sorry life. Oct 29 14 01:43 am Link MainePaintah wrote: +1 Oct 29 14 02:42 am Link Mortonovich II wrote: Yes, and the first principle of his art is that it uses nature, interacts with nature, and does not violate the landscape. His art is also ephemeral, like nature. This is nothing more than permanent vandalism. Oct 29 14 04:24 am Link Mortonovich II wrote: +1 Oct 29 14 04:43 am Link |
