I've went to Model matters forum and a lot of us (photographers) were saying how model should recive all those goods from us after the shoot.

Here's what I've seen listed on "What should Model Expect"

1 - CD with 2 copies of 60 - 100 processed photos. 1 copy at a print resolution of 3000x2008 @ 300 DPI and 1 copy at web resolution of 480 x 600 @ 72 DPI compressed to 40-50K

1 - web gallery with bio and contact info containing all the images on the CD

A standing offer of 10 prints @ 8x10 or 15 @ 5x7 should the model choose to have physical prints, amazingly some want the hard copies and some don't.

All that will take me more then 2 hours to do! .. 60-100 Processed photos?!
Are you seriouse?!

Any how ... i'd like to know what is your usual compensation in TFP/TFCD?
Oh and if you shoot .RAW in TFP/TFCD?

Here is what I do. As noted in my port however, I am an amatuer photographer so I am sure most pros will find some way to pick my theories a part. I have shot several models now and none of them have had an issue with my practices to date.

TFCD:
I provide a "Sample CD" of every single image taken at the shoot. These images are resized to 800 pixels on the longest side at 72 dpi and are stamped "SAMPLE IMAGE ONLY" across the top and "Copyright Daniel Hice" across the bottom. They are basically worthless but for selection purposes only. From this CD the model(s) are allowed to choose up to 15 images that they would like. Once I receive this list I provide all 15 of those images in the following specs...

- Full size 300dpi image for printing (8x10/12) (copyrighted)
- 1280 pixel for web use (copyrighted)
- 1024 pixel for web use (copyrighted)
- 800 pixel for web use (copyrighted)

I prefer doing all resizing from the original image rather than having the models do it with god knows what software. I basically find that even in a full day of shooting you only get a few shots per outfit and a handful of outfits so there is no reason to offer 50 images because no one can really use that many of the same thing anyways. Just pick the ones you really like and move on. Now it can take me a full day of editing to provide 15 images if it an artistic style shoot, such as B/W w/color but normally it just takes me 1-2 hours tops to get them the ones they like. I will then spend a couple days searching through looking for what I like and getting the to the way I want them. I spend more and more time during a shoot getting it right the first time however so I am spending far less time in Photoshop. I got into this to be a photographer, not a desktop imaging specialist.

Very nicely put ... seems like a resonable task.

Here is what I do....I give the model what I feel she has given me. I rarely give prints with a TFP/CD shoot, but I will if requested.......these days many are more interested in web portfolios. I will only shoot TFP with a model who I feel is dedicated and really has something to offer me.....why offer a professional service that is worth money to someone who doesn't merit a free shoot? Only if you feel that particular model's material with you can help you get to the next level should you do it, and you can both learn and grow from it.

Now, assuming he or she meets that criteria and I agree to do a TFP / TFCD shoot with that model......I choose the images that are the best, and photoshop them, throw in some black and whites and other special touches, etc. so that they have variety. I make them web ready, in most cases 600x900, 72 DPI, 150-250 kb file size. I only release the final product, I only want my best work out there. I'll usually give them 20-40 images. If i feel they did a satisfactory job, I may give them a few less and throw in a couple prints if they desire prints. If I feel he or she did an outstanding job with me, I will generally give them extra, whether a few web images or an extra print or two. Another factor to consider, if I have to spend an unusually long time photoshopping their images to make them look the way I want them to, I probably won't give them as many, it's only logical. For example, to fix many stretchmarks, scars, teeth, complexion issues, bad makeup, etc. They should have came prepared. If I spend longer in photoshop than I actually spent with the model, that becomes a problem. I hope this helps!

Helps a lot .. thaks a lot

No problem, glad that helps! I almost always shoot RAW, regardless. I forgot to answer that.

I shoot almost everything JPG but I think I am going to try RAW on my next couple shoots to see how I like it. I have done shoots in RAW in the past but at the time I don't think I was a good enough of a photographer to use any of it's benefits. I have the space to store them now so I would like to give it a try again. I was also told I can print larger images if I have the RAW file than the standard, not sure if it's true but I would love to have the ability with some of my new commercial work.

Being that my market in Yuma, AZ is very small I attend open photo shoots which are always TFP/CD.

My overall goal is to give the model either 15-20% images/prints based on the number of shots we take or if the model has several changes then my goal is at least two images per outfit.  Full body or 3/4 and then a headshot.

I shoot in Raw+Jpg because sometimes (depending on the experience level of the model) I sit down and review the shots with her.

The end results are always one full size image, a web-ready image that is 600 pixels on the long side, and a CD.  I NEVER give out copies of all the images taken...period.

All in all this has worked out pretty good for me.  Hope that it helps out if needed.

Chris

I used to give out ALL the images from the shoot, with the exception of the out of focus and obvious throwaways.

After having read several threads like this one, I came to the conclusion that giving away all the images was typically something beginners (like me) were doing.  The thought process being that as a beginner, we might want to do something that gives at least the appearance of 'giving it all we have' for the model - perhaps because subconsciously we may feel somewhat lacking in some of our other skills.

Then I got to thinking.  Giving the model hundreds of shots from a session is actually counterproductive.  The model is going to probably be doing lots of TFP if she is doing it with me as well.  Leaving her with hundreds of images to wade through, presents a task that may or may not end up getting done.  The model may choose to take some of the images and process them herself, or ask you to do them - but at the end of the day, giving the model tons of images is probably not the way to go.

I am going to now be doing a hybrid of what other photographers who have been in the game for a while have been doing.  I will give the model a CD of lower resolution images, large enough so that they can see them on a decent size on their own computer.  I will separate the images into two folders.  One folder will be the ones I have chosen as my favorites, and the other will be the rest of the images that I feel 'could be' saved/used.  I will also be a lot more hard nosed about what makes it onto the CD.

My goal is to fill the favorites folder with 3-4 images per look maximum, and the other folder would contain no more than 10 images per look.

Then I will ask the model to choose 3-5 images, whichever ones she wants (hoping she will choose some of my favorites) and I will process those for her.  She will end up with full resolution images, will have had a good healthy selection to choose from, and will have the benefit of a small collection of images that I would consider the keepers - it will at least give her a starting point to help make her choices.

The way I see it, the more images you throw at the model, the chances of your images ending up on her port go down - unless she is just starting. 

Jim