dissolvegirl wrote:
I couldn't find a search function in the forums.

(FYI, click forums and look at the bottom of the page.)

theda wrote:
I've done glamour nude work for female photographers before. I didn't find it particularly weird.

Good to know. Again, it might just be because I live in such a backwater area (no offense to people in the nicer bits of the South).

dissolvegirl wrote:
First of all, hi! I'm new to MM and am unsure if this is a topic which has been discussed before-- I couldn't find a search function in the forums. Anyway.

it's kinda been done but with everyone complaining about too much politics, what the hell.

dissolvegirl wrote:
I was wondering if there are any other female photographers out there who shoot glamour/nudes of women? It's something I've done, but is not the emphasis of my portfolio; I try to shoot people so they look as attractive as humanly possible, and sometimes that involves nudity and sometimes it doesn't. I do try to make women look sexy, and the small amount of clothing-optional shooting I've done has (I feel) a good amount of depth.

I have shot lots of female nudes.  I'd say I've done glamour too but I refuse to do the woman with ass sticking up in the air on the beach kinda stuff.

dissolvegirl wrote:
And yet, people think it's so weird.

maybe you should start hanging out with more fun people.

dissolvegirl wrote:
I don't get it. Everyone complains about GWC syndrome and how these guys get into nude photography just to see boobies, but it seems weird to pose nude for another woman? I've had husbands think I was squirreling away their wives for crazy lesbian sex (I'm married and have a two-year-old, thanks). Plus I'm in Alabama, and so friends and aquaintences see my portfolio and are like, "Why are you taking pictures of naked women?"

well I don't shoot nude women to see their boobies.  I have a set so seeing new ones in a studio setting isn't really a turn on for me.  some women I have worked with have been actually referred to me by boyfriends hubbies who want the non-sears portrait series shots of their female partners.  as for living in alabama, you have my sympathy.

dissolvegirl wrote:
The models who have posed for me in those situations have been perfectly comfortable, although I can think of one off the top of my head who was instantly more at ease with my shooting partner, who is male.

I don't have a shooting partner and I really don't go asking my models to rank their comfort level vs. a male.  I just guage that if they're not wide eyed in terror or run screaming from the studio it's all okay.

dissolvegirl wrote:
Female Models-- do you think it's weird posing semi-clothed for women? Female photographers-- do people give you shit for shooting female nudes?

I am and everybody I know is Queer and/or queer.  If the inference is that it's gay for people to be shooting someone of the same gender, no one I hang around gives a damn.  The only people who give me shit for shooting sensual or sexy shots of women are straight guys I know who think its act one of some porn fantasy they've got in their mind and are jealous.

KM von Seidl wrote:
I am and everybody I know is Queer and/or queer.

Huh? What the hell does that mean?

Is that like, "Montgomery Clift was queer ... but Liberace was Queer!"

Eric Muss-Barnes wrote:

Huh? What the hell does that mean?

Is that like, "Montgomery Clift was queer ... but Liberace was Queer!"

queer as in gay and queer as in not straight but not in reference to orientation.

dissolvegirl wrote:
I've had husbands think I was squirreling away their wives for crazy lesbian sex.

If you're shooting nude photography, 8 times out of 10 the husbands are going to think that the photographer has a thing for the wife...regardless if you're male or female. Often times their comfort level (the husband & wife) w/ whatever you're doing, will depend on how solid their relationship is. There's nothing you can do about that.

KM von Seidl wrote:

queer as in gay and queer as in not straight but not in reference to orientation.

Ok, now I'm really confused....

KM von Seidl wrote:
I have shot lots of female nudes.  I'd say I've done glamour too but I refuse to do the woman with ass sticking up in the air on the beach kinda stuff.

im not a female..but ditto...

Merlinpix wrote:
"I'm male and shoot for a lot of the adult books:  women with their asses up in the air on the beach, etc, is what they buy, and that's what I produce. I'm getting more than a little tired of of folks who don't work that segment of the market commenting on it."




.....ooooh! your asking for it!!
walking into a mostly girl thread and talking about the adult industry!!
You are still going to have to realize that kind of work will ALWAYS cause controversy...and there are going to always be people who will think of you in that type of "GWC" type of way.....who cares though, I looked at your portfolio and loved it...It takes a talented person male or female to make smut look good
As long as your getting payed for it.

Farenell Photography wrote:

If you're shooting nude photography, 8 times out of 10 the husbands are going to think that the photographer has a thing for the wife...regardless if you're male or female. Often times their comfort level (the husband & wife) w/ whatever you're doing, will depend on how solid their relationship is. There's nothing you can do about that.

Erm what happens if yer male, and you are shooting nudes of the husband, does the wife assume you must be gay? (Or the husband for that matter)

Merlinpix wrote:
This is really a nonissue women have been shooting women naked, pinup, glamour, and in ezpass lane access poses for years. Well maybe in small towns it's an issue but in NY/NJ I'm up against some real good female shooters for  a paycheck.

Good to know; and yeah, I've never seen or had a problem from a photographer-to-photographer point of view. So in that sense, you're quite right that it's a nonissue. But the perceptions of people outside the industry and models may be different, which is why I asked.

I'm male and shoot for a lot of the adult books:  women with their asses up in the air on the beach, etc, is what they buy, and that's what I produce. I'm getting more than a little tired of of folks who don't work that segment of the market commenting on it. I'm not a GWC. I sell approx 98% of what I shoot, and I never shoot just to see a women naked( god how desperate is that). I venture models are less harrased by legitimate folks shooting what I do than in the fashion or commercial market.

Paul

Um, I never made a comment on that segment of the market or judged you for what you shoot. "Glamour" may actually be the wrong term for what I shoot, I do sexy and provocative with skin showing, but the skin isn't the point of the picture, you know? Anyway, if you love what you shoot and make good money doing it then kudos. I'm just not sure what this has to do with anything.

Karl Blessing wrote:
Erm what happens if yer male, and you are shooting nudes of the husband, does the wife assume you must be gay? (Or the husband for that matter)

Heh, I have no idea. I do know some male photographers who really avoid male nudes because they're afraid of some kind of stigma, because they claim they have no idea how to pose a male nude, or would like to shoot male nudes specifically to prove they're not like the first two.

Doug Swinskey wrote:

im not a female..but ditto...

It's probably a seperate topic on different thread eh?  The different variations of glamour.

envisage photography wrote:
I wish that I could shoot nudes...everytime I try it end up looking very similar to cheap adult magazines...or like it belongs on the cover of a porno.

Can I watch?

Merlinpix wrote:
I'm male and shoot for a lot of the adult books:  women with their asses up in the air on the beach, etc, is what they buy, and that's what I produce. I'm getting more than a little tired of of folks who don't work that segment of the market commenting on it. I'm not a GWC. I sell approx 98% of what I shoot, and I never shoot just to see a women naked( god how desperate is that). I venture models are less harrased by legitimate folks shooting what I do than in the fashion or commercial market.

Paul

What, people who only shoot adult books can comment on poses?   I don't shoot graduation photos or wedding either, I can't comment on that?

I understand that the adult market sells all sort of different images, and it's not that I'm a prude or that I think adult or erotica is bad or less than,  but personallyI'm not interested in shooting something called glamour that features really trite poses particularly the one with ass in the air.   And actually if it was an actual porn shot I think it's more honest than the clothed one.

envisage photography wrote:
.....ooooh! your asking for it!!
walking into a mostly girl thread and talking about the adult industry!!
You are still going to have to realize that kind of work will ALWAYS cause controversy...and there are going to always be people who will think of you in that type of "GWC" type of way.....who cares though, I looked at your portfolio and loved it...It takes a talented person male or female to make smut look good
As long as your getting payed for it.

Maybe he should be called P4GWOC?

Photographer 4(for) Guy Without Camera

D. Brian Nelson wrote:
I'm a male and don't have much to say here, but I do have a question.  Is "glamour/nudes" "glamour nudes" or is it "glamour or nudes?"  One category or two?

-Don

Don,

Given that she is from AL and the rest of her post suggested to me it was both glamour and nudes, 2 categories, each one potentially involving the issue of sexuality (hence the worry about weirdness and lesbianism)...that's how I interpreted it at least.

DigitalCMH wrote:

Can I watch?

Its actually not that entertaining...just me getting frustrated.

dissolvegirl wrote:
KM has the right of it, yes. Actually, my first nude shoot was just basically an anatomy study to improve my nude lighting/posing-- you know, dramatically lit chests and torsos, reclining nudes, etc. That was what got me the majority of the "WTF?" from friends and aquaintences. I'm a transplant to the South and grew up surrounded by pretty progressive people, so the entire idea of people balking at pictures I would be fine showing my mom was odd. For what it's worth, the model put a print of one of the pictures up in her computer room, she liked it so much.

I have some more shoots I'd like to do (involving some lingerie and some implieds) that make me think "Eeesh, should I even put these in my online portfolio, or is it going to be worth dealing with the 'What's with you and the nekkid ladies?' comments?"

I think you should ignore everyone else and not care what they think (isn't that the whole point of us girls becoming photographers in the first place??) Shoot what is in your heart and you will probobly get great images.
Becky

envisage photography wrote:

Its actually not that entertaining...just me getting frustrated.

And during those moments I'd help out

envisage photography wrote:
I wish that I could shoot nudes...everytime I try it end up looking very similar to cheap adult magazines...or like it belongs on the cover of a porno.

And that's a bad thing? ; )

KM von Seidl wrote:

And that's a bad thing? ; )

Maybe Ive found my niche.
Jenna Jameson here I come, show me your monkey.

dissolvegirl wrote:
I was wondering if there are any other female photographers out there who shoot glamour/nudes of women?

Female Models-- do you think it's weird posing semi-clothed for women? Female photographers-- do people give you shit for shooting female nudes?

i shoot *mainly* females and have never had a problem...not from the models and not from people seeing the images. i have however had comments such as 'why would any girl want to pose NAKED?!'...go figure