Model

ChrisTina

Posts: 9

Elyria, Nebraska, US

i get alot of offers for tfp shoots but i dont know who to go to or who to trust....how do u choose who to let take your pictures? im new to modeling and dont know much about these kind of shoots?

May 09 05 06:00 pm Link

Photographer

ANON

Posts: 319

San Diego, California, US

One method is to spend time quietly observing.  Read who posts, what they say, where their thoughts are.  Look at their portfolios and see if the type of material reflects the kind of modeling you would like to do.  Is their focus on just one thing, or are they well rounded with a variety of model types, males, females, various age levels.  Do they have credits, or are they just starting out (which can be okay too).  Will they allow you to bring a chaparone, do they have a physical address and a phone number?  These are all good considerations to begin with.  Next, look at the quality of their work and determine if, even though it is free, will it bring value to your portfolio or not.  Avoid the pitfalls and seek to work with those that will provide value in exchange for your time.  Here's an article I wrote recently, somewhat comically identifying the characters you don't want to end up with:  http://www.onetalentsource.com/view_article/31/

May 09 05 06:10 pm Link

Photographer

rwspangler

Posts: 137

Springfield, Virginia, US

yep, as stated above, think as tho you are buying the product and check it out. Also, take someone with you at least for the first time you shoot. that way you have a witness and a way out. ;-) The good shooters will help you out and you'll know them when you see them.

May 09 05 06:27 pm Link

Photographer

EMG STUDIOS

Posts: 2033

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

I'm not sure I agree with any of this statement but that's just my opinion. The way one person thinks or expresses themselves AND what they post and what they talk about are two different birds.

I feel that if you have to ask who you should TFP with, then you don't know what you want to add to your portfolio. It is very easy to pinpoint things you like in a photographers portfolio and determine if you want to work with them. If you find that you're interested in their work then you start asking for references.

I'm not sure what good asking for references does because a person will not give you a reference to someone that will bad mouth them.

One of two things are bound to happen, when you add better images to your portfolio you will attract better photographers, or you fumble over who to shoot with for free and you never get experience in front of the camera and you simply tread water.

May 09 05 06:44 pm Link

Model

Jeri Lynn Astra

Posts: 240

Pleasantville, New York, US

I very simply take a look at their work. If I think it will add something to my book, I pursue a shoot. (As long as there aren't any big red flags, and a few times there have been.)

May 09 05 06:48 pm Link

Photographer

BluesteelPhoto

Posts: 135

Harrisburg, Arkansas, US

Yup, look at their work, their diversity in lighting and composition, and then contact a model or two from their portfolios (if possible).

I find as a photographer that if you suck as a photographer, the word gets around at warp speed. The model-INTERNET moves data quicker than anything I know.

And it won't kill you to say no if you are at all concerned, that's intuition, and yes, that little voice sometimes knows best. Don't be paranoid, but be cautious.

May 09 05 07:12 pm Link

Model

Miss Pixie

Posts: 23

Long Beach, California, US

Posted by EMG STUDIOS: 
I'm not sure I agree with any of this statement but that's just my opinion. The way one person thinks or expresses themselves AND what they post and what they talk about are two different birds.

I feel that if you have to ask who you should TFP with, then you don't know what you want to add to your portfolio. It is very easy to pinpoint things you like in a photographers portfolio and determine if you want to work with them. If you find that you're interested in their work then you start asking for references.

I'm not sure what good asking for references does because a person will not give you a reference to someone that will bad mouth them.

One of two things are bound to happen, when you add better images to your portfolio you will attract better photographers, or you fumble over who to shoot with for free and you never get experience in front of the camera and you simply tread water.

In my opinion this is great advice and I agree with all of it.

May 09 05 09:37 pm Link

Photographer

LaMarco

Posts: 904

Berwick, Maine, US

Well form a photographers stand point. How do we know when a model takes someone we are not going to get robbed and killed either. smile

Crazy people always seem fine right up till the point the eat the guy next door.

Its common sense really. Trust is a big thing and I like to set up meetings before working with someone to talk in a public place and go outside and snap a few shoots off and see how it feels to all.

If something doesn't feel right, most likely it is not and vise versa.

May 09 05 10:10 pm Link

Photographer

ANON

Posts: 319

San Diego, California, US

Posted by Steven LaMarco: 
Well form a photographers stand point. How do we know when a model takes someone we are not going to get robbed and killed either. smile

As a photographer, that's why I never go anywhere without a chaparone myself!  Except, I call them Assistants.  :-)

May 09 05 10:13 pm Link

Makeup Artist

The Beauty Artist

Posts: 918

Troy, Michigan, US

Very imaginative article, even though its being said in a joking way its true, these are the types to look out for, and get feedback from others to avoid working with. Try and choose a photographer who you like their work and feel will benefit you, makes you feel comfortable (is ok with you to taking a chaparone ect.), and get them to sign a test agreement to insure you get a cd or prints (i feel like usually its the new models that get taken advantage of by the type of photographers who dont come through with giving images).Anyway, your just starting out so learn as much as you can, shoot as much as you can to get experience, and have fun.



Posted by Austin Models & Talent Agency: 
One method is to spend time quietly observing.  Read who posts, what they say, where their thoughts are.  Look at their portfolios and see if the type of material reflects the kind of modeling you would like to do.  Is their focus on just one thing, or are they well rounded with a variety of model types, males, females, various age levels.  Do they have credits, or are they just starting out (which can be okay too).  Will they allow you to bring a chaparone, do they have a physical address and a phone number?  These are all good considerations to begin with.  Next, look at the quality of their work and determine if, even though it is free, will it bring value to your portfolio or not.  Avoid the pitfalls and seek to work with those that will provide value in exchange for your time.  Here's an article I wrote recently, somewhat comically identifying the characters you don't want to end up with:  http://www.onetalentsource.com/view_article/31/

May 09 05 10:17 pm Link

Photographer

LaMarco

Posts: 904

Berwick, Maine, US

Posted by Austin Models & Talent Agency: 

Posted by Steven LaMarco: 
Well form a photographers stand point. How do we know when a model takes someone we are not going to get robbed and killed either. smile

As a photographer, that's why I never go anywhere without a chaparone myself!  Except, I call them Assistants.  :-)

Being in NH I can take my shotgun with me.. Live free or die.  God bless america. LOL
I go out alone, but since there are no modles around me that follow through on plans, I am all set. smile

May 09 05 10:18 pm Link

Model

theda

Posts: 21719

New York, New York, US

Posted by ChrisTina: 
i get alot of offers for tfp shoots but i dont know who to go to or who to trust....how do u choose who to let take your pictures? im new to modeling and dont know much about these kind of shoots?

The first thing you have to do is identify what kind of modeling you want to do. Then you have to figure out what kind of modeling you can do and see where they overlap.  Accept TFPs with people who's pictures look good to you in those styles (keeping in mind you'll probably end up throwing out at least your first batch of TFPs for one reason or another). 

Ask questions. Check references. Google the photographer's name. If you can find contat info for people that photographer didn't name as a reference, get in touch with them. Pay attention.

May 09 05 11:02 pm Link

Photographer

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Posts: 4576

Posted By ChrisTina:i get alot of offers for tfp shoots but i dont know who to go to or who to trust....how do u choose who to let take your pictures? im new to modeling and dont know much about these kind of shoots?

Crap. Everyone gave my advice already.

But, I'll just repeat what has been said; my advice is this - The first thing you need to determine is what KIND of model do you want to be?

Do you want to be in Playboy? Do you want to be in shoppingmall catalogs? Do you want to be in porn? Do you want to be an Internet model with your own website and memberships? Do you want to be a fashion model in big runway shows for Versace? Do you want to be in the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue?

Figure that out first. Once you know the KIND of model you are interested in being, it will be a lot easier to determine the next steps.

May 09 05 11:08 pm Link

Photographer

BlackSkyPhoto

Posts: 1130

Danville, California, US

Do what you are doing right now..... ask questions - then ask more.... and if the photogrpaher cannot answer them - then do not shoot..

Great way to weed out scum... also ask about model releases - ask for copies to review beforehand... etc..

Make them show you they are professional..

May 09 05 11:55 pm Link