Posted by Eric Muss-Barnes: 
The answer is obvious:

"Everything is subjective and open to opinion."

sorry but based on philosophy background.   I must disagree to a small point.  A small point yes but It may become much.

I do not believe everything is subjective.

I do believe in a best.

A best photo.
A best model.
A nicest person.
A meanest person.
A smelliest person.

what is my best may not be your best but that does not discount the fact that there must be a best or worst.

It does not all depend. 

so thus though trashy and  tasteless may have different and moving definitions.  There is a most trashy and tasteless of all time and of this moment.

My view may be different from the inherent concept of the definition you have but that does not discount the overall inherent feature of  what is basic.  There must be a certain  somewhere.

Someone must be most beautiful,  most idiotic(a crown I strive for),  a biggest eater,  a fatest,  a thinnest,  blah, blah, blah,

Idiot man says bring it on.  Not a flame but wow imagine a debate on a model sight on the basics of philosophy of philosophy.

I truly believe in what I wrote tonight until I wake up tomorrow and decide otherwise.

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Posted by Hugh  Jorgen ©: 
Since we are on the subject!!
I know its not trashey but is it porn?

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … f8f5a9e585

Looks like something Met-Art would shoot.

Posted by Gary Weinheimer: 
Interesting Question. 

I have a project that I'm working on that is deliberately "trashy".  I'm making a statement by producing them.  Are they tastless? I hope not, but I leave that for you to decide.  I guess a better question might be to ask "What is Art?"

Gary

Interesting idea and I understand your concept. Its actually artistic in my opinion. Just as other artists have taken subjects/concepts/etc, and transformed them from "trash" so to speak, to "art". Many things you will see in a museum were once upon a time shamefull, until someone had the courage to shoot it in a way that shows the beauty in it...

what is art? I obviously can't answer that but I think part of it is conveying in a photograph or painting (when speaking of humans as the subject) things beyond the physical beauty. Humans are such complex creatures. To those who can capture just one of those elements, and we as the viewer relate as fellow humans....that is one form of art in my opinion.

I viewed a picture here on MM, couldnt go back and find it, but it was a wonderful picture because it said more than just a subject and back ground. It carried feelings, and was able to make me say "hey. I feel like I've experienced that emotion in my life."

bravo to you!

Posted by Angel Tara: 


what is art? I obviously can't answer that but I think part of it is conveying in a photograph or painting (when speaking of humans as the subject) things beyond the physical beauty. Humans are such complex creatures. To those who can capture just one of those elements, and we as the viewer relate as fellow humans....that is one form of art in my opinion.

I viewed a picture here on MM, couldnt go back and find it, but it was a wonderful picture because it said more than just a subject and back ground. It carried feelings, and was able to make me say "hey. I feel like I've experienced that emotion in my life."

bravo to you!

I think you answered the "what is art" question nicely.

Posted by vanscottie: 
Re: The gold pic, and your port in general
trashy - not particularly
serious - no
interesting/original - no
is it you? - it is only if you superficial and cheesy

if you aren't superficial and cheesy as I suspect you aren't find photographers who'll take a few moments to capture YOU and not try and recreate the latest issue of Maxim

Well, as a model trying to make a buck, while I enjoy originality, my main focus right now is not "art" but "what sells". I thank you for your assumption that I am not cheesy, which I do not believe that I am. However, I am trying to get into Maxim (will be in July) and I am trying to create photos that sell. I personally love to take photos that are fun and creative, and it makes it difficult for me because I am "suppose" to be shooting commercial and beauty (and glamour as I pursue that genre). Anyway, is the picture me? Well, the expression IS! LOL, my thoughts tend to show on my face, almost to a fault, and completely outside of a photoshoot, similiar experessions have been known to stop people in their tracks. Ha ha, but thats another story.

Bottom line, yes, i know its not original, but please keep in mind I am not an artist in this respect, and I am in this as a business. Sounds cheesy, perhaps makes me a sell out, but as a person totally outside of being a model, I assure you I am not cheesy or superficial.

Posted by Mary: 
I agree with Eric and a few others here that to some it may be trashy, to most people here "no"  we are not main stream in this industry so what we think is trash and what the farmer in Illinois thinks is trash would be different. 

What matters is...does it work for you? Who is your potential client?  will they think it's trashy?  If you are doing it just for yourself then you are the expert.

If you put this in your book for a "go-see" for a Walmart print ad you probably won't get the job. If you put this in your book and show it to a local photographer in hopes of a TFP your chances are pretty good of working with the guy   just my opinion.

mary...totally understand! I pick and choose what pictures I send to people based on the "purpose". I assure you, this picture is NOT on my comp card, LOL.

Posted by Angie Rae: 
your labia blowing in the wind...

Oh my!