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Mike Cummings

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http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1

The line for puking starts on the left.
*sigh*

Oct 23 05 01:24 pm Link

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stylist man

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I am upset when the crazy people become clever.

Oct 23 05 01:58 pm Link

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Mike Cummings

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LAKE COMO, Florida, US

MHana wrote:
I am upset when the crazy people become clever.

Is that worse than the clever people becoming crazy?

Oct 23 05 02:07 pm Link

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Horsie Girl

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Santa Rosa, California, US

That's just what we need, more people like them to corupt our children.

Oct 23 05 02:09 pm Link

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qphotonyc

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New York, New York, US

i'm on the puke line too mike, but this really doesnt surprise me that much. chasing the almighty buck in america trumps decency and good taste every time. the way things are going, not only will they probly sell alot of songs but there'll be spinoffs, merchandise tie ins, copycat bands and probably even a few idiots on the left going to court to champion their right to free speech. they're just kids is the sad part. i call this child abuse.

Oct 23 05 02:26 pm Link

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Weldphoto

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Charleston, South Carolina, US

qphotonyc wrote:
i call this child abuse.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. The mother should have her children taken away from her.
The only good thing is, if they are like most kids, they will soon rebel agasint everything their parents taught them and will take on non-white lovers and drive the parents insane.
Oh, wait, the parents are already there...

Oct 23 05 02:37 pm Link

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Mike Cummings

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LAKE COMO, Florida, US

Weldphoto wrote:

I think you have hit the nail on the head. The mother should have her children taken away from her.
The only good thing is, if they are like most kids, they will soon rebel agasint everything their parents taught them and will take on non-white lovers and drive the parents insane.
Oh, wait, the parents are already there...

LOL..  guess who is coming to dinner. "Mom this is Tyrone, he is a gansta' rap artist and drug dealer"....

Oct 23 05 02:49 pm Link

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Adrienne Aurora

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Atlanta, Georgia, US

That's fucked up, it's sad, and it's scary all at the same time.

Oct 23 05 02:57 pm Link

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area291

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Calabasas, California, US

Free Speech and other ideals is what this nation stands on for its foundation.  But it also goes to the credibility of those carrying the message. 

In one of their videos one of the precious angels is holding an electric guitar strumming along...yet the music is clearly from an acoustic.  Right and wrong doesn't seem to play into their mindset.  Clearly it is more about, "Let's make a statement, any statement, and we'll be famous."

If I can steal a line from Paul...They need a better photographer.

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/caleeb/DSCN0105.jpg

Oct 23 05 03:19 pm Link

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LongWindFPV Visuals

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

If the kids are getting home-schooled, where is the parent getting her education, alt.flame.{insert non-white/caucasion nationality here} ??  There's nothing wrong with home-schooling. Teaching children requires a lot of personal responsibility, fortitude, conscience and the teachings should transcend nationalism and socialism and stick to practical and functional academics and literacy. Why center learning and character development around useless topics such as preserving ones race?

There's nothing wrong being proud of your nationality. When the pride gets mixed with hate and ends up being used to put down others who are different is when it's wrong.

The parents of these beautiful children are very irresponsible, short-sighted and extremely paranoid. They should be demoted as teachers in my opinion.

I used to get jumped a lot by older kids from different nationalities and eventually, I learned how to fight. My family could've easily taught me to be a racist. Obviously, I had the proper outside motivations that, combined with my military training and my wits, could make for a pretty effective racist, but also a criminal one that would eventually get innocent people killed along the way, and wind up getting caught and jailed. Who wants to lose their basic freedom and privileges for something pathetic and petty such as, "well, there were too many people in my neighborhood who aren't the same as me and this {insert color here} guy was looking at me wrong". That's pretty fukkin dumb!

My family wanted better for me growing up in America. Living in America, especially in California, who the hell has enough time to even think along the lines of Adolf Hitler, or other color purist preservist terrorist?

Geesus! I love diversity. I thrive in a community where people are the same, or different than me. I enjoy foods, wine and song from other places! What's not to enjoy and appreciate?

Oh. And the fact that these two clowns of parents and so-called educators are using their disarming kids to tout their racist beliefs is just plain low-class. You don't see other nationalities doing that except in some parts of the Middle-East where the religious purists teach their young that the two young and talented girls from Bakersfield California are "infidels" -- just like the rest of us.

Damn shame all around. People are stupid.

Oct 23 05 03:40 pm Link

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Mike Cummings

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area291 wrote:
Free Speech and other ideals is what this nation stands on for its foundation.  But it also goes to the credibility of those carrying the message. 

In one of their videos one of the precious angels is holding an electric guitar strumming along...yet the music is clearly from an acoustic.  Right and wrong doesn't seem to play into their mindset.  Clearly it is more about, "Let's make a statement, any statement, and we'll be famous."

If I can steal a line from Paul...They need a better photographer.

https://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/caleeb/DSCN0105.jpg

Look it is Mary HATE and Ashley

Oct 23 05 04:10 pm Link

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lll

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Seattle, Washington, US

I keep telling people: I survived Bakersfield for two years.  Honestly, I still don't know how.

I have had two shotguns pointed at me while visiting clients because I am not white.  I have had pop corn thrown at me at the theater.  I have been shoved to a corner.  My motorcycle has been pushed over.  Car scratched.

But I survived.

It's Bakersfield, I am not the least surprised.

Oct 23 05 11:23 pm Link

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club Jeska

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Riverside, California, US

man 11 year old girls are hottttt

Oct 23 05 11:27 pm Link

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NoLOngerHeree

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New York, New York, US

Adrienne_83 wrote:
That's fucked up, it's sad, and it's scary all at the same time.

i think that just about sums it up

Oct 23 05 11:36 pm Link

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Ever Art

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Chicago, Illinois, US

Wow - I've seen it all now......white supremacist pop starlets?  I bet this is one CD you WONT find at Wal Mart this holiday season, lol. Who in their right mind would fund this type of album and give them publicity?

I mean, we all have opinions and the rights to our opinions, but to say that one culture is Supreme over another, and to stuff it in peoples minds and ears, is antiquated bs.  All cultures have value even if we dont agree or understand them.  How dare the parents teach hate...to praise someone who supported killing millions of Polish & Jewish and whoever else?  Back in the 40's Poles and Jews were WHITE too, and they still are today. 

These kids are in for a rude awakening when they become adults and have to interact with society. I bet they'll end up on Jerry Springer someday....

Forget the barf bag - this family needs a can of good ol fashion whoop ass.  Karma is a bitch.....

Oct 23 05 11:37 pm Link

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theda

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New York, New York, US

Their music label caters to white supremacist music. 

I'm one of those crazy misguided leftists that supports their right to say whatever they want. It's demented and sad, but demented and sad isn't illegal and shouldn't be.

Oct 24 05 09:37 am Link

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Maria T

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Lambertville, New Jersey, US

That's crazy!

Oct 24 05 09:43 am Link

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Inamourada Flux

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Cheshunt, England, United Kingdom

Ah yes, these two.
"we want to keep being white" - What, like they're going to wake up another colour one morning? :-/

Anyone want to Photoshop them making them look black then email the result to them?

Oct 24 05 09:44 am Link

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Monsante Bey

Posts: 2111

Columbus, Georgia, US

We need shotguns for this.

When people have this type of mentality, there's no reprogramming them, especially when they're over 25. The best cure is a bullet to the back of the skull on live TV and hope it doesn't spread.

Oct 24 05 09:44 am Link

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Bill Tracy Photography

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Montague, New Jersey, US

I guess there's nothing wrong with trying to preserve your race, it's just when they start saying that all other races are bad and should be eliminated - that's the scary stuff.

How many black parents would be happy if their daughter brought home a white guy?
That is called preference and perhaps race preservation.

Oct 24 05 09:55 am Link

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Imago

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Portland, Maine, US

Bill Tracy wrote:
I guess there's nothing wrong with trying to preserve your race [...]

There is, though, since it makes no biological sense to do so. Racial differences have largely been proven to be nothing more than a social construct. And you can preserve your cultural heritage just fine without preserving race. There is no reason, other than fear or hatred of other races and cultures, to try to preserve race.

Oct 24 05 10:05 am Link

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Imago

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Portland, Maine, US

Monsante Bey wrote:
The best cure is a bullet to the back of the skull on live TV and hope it doesn't spread.

The best cure is for no sane person to take them seriously. Look at what's happening to hate rallies - they barely get media coverage; that's how much of a joke this crap is these days. These girls are just on the news because it's a novelty. If this is the best the hate groups can pull off these days, I'm pretty confident they're doing rather bad. Let's keep an eye open to make sure they don't gain traction, and just continue to let them ridicule themselves wink

Oct 24 05 10:08 am Link

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Bill Tracy Photography

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luxmosaic wrote:
There is, though, since it makes no biological sense to do so.

I guess that makes sense if your a biologist, but try telling that to the parents of a Japanese girl with a black boyfriend.  Or to the parents of a black boy with a Japanese girlfriend.  This is the reality we all live in.

Oct 24 05 10:12 am Link

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Brian Diaz

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theda wrote:
I'm one of those crazy misguided leftists that supports their right to say whatever they want. It's demented and sad, but demented and sad isn't illegal and shouldn't be.

I completely agree.  Morality and opinions cannot be legislated, and as long as they are not infringing on anyone else's rights, they should be free to do whatever they want.  (But that's not a leftist viewpoint; it's a libertarian one.)

Oct 24 05 10:18 am Link

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StMarc

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Chicago, Illinois, US

Monsante Bey wrote:
We need shotguns for this.

When people have this type of mentality, there's no reprogramming them, especially when they're over 25. The best cure is a bullet to the back of the skull on live TV and hope it doesn't spread.

Alas for the Friends of Voltaire:

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

First they came for the Nazis, and I said nothing, because I was not a Nazi...

M

Oct 24 05 10:19 am Link

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Imago

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Portland, Maine, US

Bill Tracy wrote:
I guess that makes sense if your a biologist, but try telling that to the parents of a Japanese girl with a black boyfriend.  Or to the parents of a black boy with a Japanese girlfriend.  This is the reality we all live in.

No, it's the reality that we all create, and it's one that doesn't make sense from a social perspective either. It's one that we're working on changing by showing people that intolerance doesn't work. If we can't convince the parents, we'll try the children, or their grandchildren. Sooner or later it'll catch on.

EDIT: my point being - saying 'this is the reality we live in' reduces you to a passive participant. Saying it's one we create makes us active participants and allows us to introduce change.  You can argue it's semantics, but I believe it makes a huge difference - it all starts in how you (we) look at the problem.

Oct 24 05 10:19 am Link

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StMarc

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Chicago, Illinois, US

luxmosaic wrote:

The best cure is for no sane person to take them seriously.

"[Humanity] has unquestionably one really effective weapon—laughter. Power, money, persuasion, supplication, persecution—these can lift at a colossal humbug—push it a little—weaken it a little, century by century; but only laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand."

--- Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger

Oct 24 05 10:21 am Link

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Bill Tracy Photography

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Montague, New Jersey, US

luxmosaic wrote:
No, it's the reality that we all create, and it's one that doesn't make sense from a social perspective either. It's one that we're working on changing by showing people that intolerance doesn't work. If we can't convince the parents, we'll try the children, or their grandchildren. Sooner or later it'll catch on.

I do truly believe that tho.  I believe in aliens/UFO's. I think they are millions of years ahead of us. And if you notice, they're all one color. You never see someone's rendition of aliens that are of different skin colors. I think eventually all the races will mix utill all humans are just one color. It may take millions of years, but it seems to be inevitable to me.  That will hopefully be the end of racism, but until then I think it's just an ugly part of life.

Oct 24 05 10:27 am Link

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Monsante Bey

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Bill Tracy wrote:

I guess that makes sense if your a biologist, but try telling that to the parents of a Japanese girl with a black boyfriend.  Or to the parents of a black boy with a Japanese girlfriend.  This is the reality we all live in.

Actually, a very large percentage of black people are accepting of other races. We don't have that type of hate in our hearts, just pity and understanding for those that do.

Oct 24 05 12:44 pm Link

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Bill Tracy Photography

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Montague, New Jersey, US

Monsante Bey wrote:
Actually, a very large percentage of black people are accepting of other races. We don't have that type of hate in our hearts, just pity and understanding for those that do.

I guess I just haven't found any like you then, well except for my first girlfriend who was black - her parents hated me becasue I was white.  I married a spanish girl from Argentina, and we're still married after 16 years and two kids.

Oct 24 05 12:56 pm Link

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lll

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Seattle, Washington, US

Bill Tracy wrote:
I guess that makes sense if your a biologist, but try telling that to the parents of a Japanese girl with a black boyfriend.  Or to the parents of a black boy with a Japanese girlfriend.  This is the reality we all live in.

Ha ha, I got into that.  I had a Japanese girlfriend (while living in Japan), and her parents hated me.  I am Asian, spoke fluent Japanese and could have easily passed for a Japanese guy on the street.  But alas, "you are no Japanese!"  LOL  Go figure!

Racism gives me gas.

Oct 24 05 01:49 pm Link

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Imago

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Monsante Bey wrote:
Actually, a very large percentage of black people are accepting of other races. We don't have that type of hate in our hearts, just pity and understanding for those that do.

'We' don't have that type of hate in our hearts either. [other content edited out - no need to start an argument]

Oct 24 05 02:12 pm Link

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Brian Diaz

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Danbury, Connecticut, US

I've really never understood it.  My Irish grandmother married my Columbian grandfather in the 40s.  So I never once thought it was a problem. 




I guess it was okay because they were both Catholic...

Oct 24 05 02:13 pm Link

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TIM MELIDEO PHOTOGRAPHY

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San Diego, California, US

its such bs. if you go to their website, and read the lyrics... all the lyrics were written by other people. these white supremesists are just using the two young girls as a transport to get their message accross. if two little girls are singing about this crap, then it will get noticed. if some 40 year old dudes are saying it, its no big deal because it happens all the time. why can't people just live in the 21st century and get over themselves? makes me sick.

Oct 24 05 02:25 pm Link

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theda

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Brian Diaz wrote:
I completely agree.  Morality and opinions cannot be legislated, and as long as they are not infringing on anyone else's rights, they should be free to do whatever they want.  (But that's not a leftist viewpoint; it's a libertarian one.)

"Libertarians arer the hippies of the right."

Oct 24 05 03:53 pm Link

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Boho Hobo

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Santa Barbara, California, US

Mike Cummings wrote:

LOL..  guess who is coming to dinner. "Mom this is Tyrone, he is a gansta' rap artist and drug dealer"....

LOL that's what I was thinking.  6 years down the line.... one will be named lil' ga-lin and the other will be staring in "She Swallows."

Oct 24 05 03:57 pm Link

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Brian Diaz

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theda wrote:

"Libertarians arer the hippies of the right."

That's funny enough to take as a compliment. smile

Oct 24 05 04:32 pm Link

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Harrison Sweazea

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Jefferson City, Missouri, US

Now, before everyone starts throwing things, let me just say this:

I have a great many friends of ALL colors. I have no prejudice, although I see as much racism in the black community as I do any others.

This aptly-called racism that these girls promote would be perfectly accepted if the girls were black, and the situation were reversed and y'all know it. We have Black Pride, Black history month, a Black Yellow Pages directory, BET network, Kwanzaa, the list of celebrations for the African-American race goes on and on, and I think it's wonderful. But caucasians don't dare have the same type of labeling going on, or they are immediately tagged as "racist". The race card is played far too often these days, and it does way more harm than good.

For the record, I don't approve of the white supremist crap in any form...I just think we should all have a level playing field.

Oct 24 05 04:45 pm Link

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Mike Cummings

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LAKE COMO, Florida, US

theda wrote:

"Libertarians arer the hippies of the right."

Aw crap, I'm a hippy. This may explain those tie-dye shirts in my closet.

Oct 24 05 05:09 pm Link

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Tony Lawrence

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Chicago, Illinois, US

Monsante Bey
For the record I agree with you.
Black people don't usually have hate
for other races.  We typically use it
on ourselves.  This isn't to say that
we don't have hate crimes and such
against other races but we typically
are understanding.  Consider after the
first Rodney King trial Black folks
destroyed their communities same as
in when Dr. King was killed.
Yes we did harm some Whites , Asians
and some bussiness but mostly our own.
Angre turned inward.

Oct 24 05 06:19 pm Link