Photographer
Bruce Talbot
Posts: 3850
Los Angeles, California, US
E Johnson wrote: Only in Baltimore.... Actually, Houston TX is worse - much worse. ........... and that gives me an idea bt
Model
Eric J Erk
Posts: 8791
Baltimore, Maryland, US
Bruce Talbot wrote:
Actually, Houston TX is worse - much worse. ........... and that gives me an idea bt Yeah...I'll bet it is, considering how the happenings in Baltimore are slow as Molasses. I'm just offended that no one stole my s**t. What am I, not worthy or something? What's your idea?
Makeup Artist
Pink Beauty
Posts: 127
Seattle, Washington, US
#1... If you personally did not steal the images, authorize the use of stolen images or approve images after you saw them and your designers work for a company then their employers need to know what has happened and you need to prove your claim to those employers so their are repercussions in their careers beyond getting a slap on the hand from you/your company. #2... because you say that the designers are responsible for the copyright infringments it is obvious that you did not take the pictures yourself which means #2... If this is your company and you are in charge and the designers are not submitting costs \ for the hiring of models, photographers, wardrobe, makeup, wardrobe etc. and your accountant is not writing checks and accounting the books to cover these costs then you DO know something isn't quite right with what is going on. An honest company would be immediately suspicious, suspend the designers pending an immediate investigation of that and other work by those people until it is cleared up. Turns out the claim is false, no problem. Turns out the claim is true uh-oh, get it cleared up with the copywrite holders before rather than after they find out... etc. And lastly, even if someone does not put a watermark on their image, whether it is a photograph or writing or whatever, the placement of it on the Internet is copyrighted automatically. Look into the laws. Legitimate online businesses are quite knowledgeable about this fact. P.
Photographer
Philipe
Posts: 5302
Pomona, California, US
(cracks knuckles) Ok, heres going to be some popping
Photographer
T H Taylor
Posts: 6862
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US
Brucie... You are a totally ACE guy. Bloody hell. I've never seen someone be so cool to someone that has blatantly tried to fuck them (Metaphorically!)... I guess revenge IS a dish best served cold! You RULE my friend. T.
Photographer
Emeritus
Posts: 22000
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Bruce Talbot wrote: You've not disclosed who is responsible for 'providing' you with my images. Of course he hasn't. These kind never do. They all, every damned one of them, claim "my web designer did it". It's the image thief version of "the dog ate my homework". But of course they won't say who is responsible, because THAT person would then be able to point the finger back at them. They prefer to leave it all very vague and ambiguous, to avoid the clear, stark reality: they are guilty.
Photographer
TheLoftStudios
Posts: 973
Houston, Texas, US
Bruce Talbot wrote:
Actually, Houston TX is worse - much worse. ........... and that gives me an idea bt Bruce is RIGHT..... Here in Houston, these SOB's take whatever they want from whom ever they want.....
Photographer
SayCheeZ!
Posts: 20621
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Pink Beauty wrote: #1... If you personally did not steal the images, authorize the use of stolen images or approve images after you saw them ...etc Ummm Y'all can stop now.
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Photographer
Richard Tallent
Posts: 7136
Beaumont, Texas, US
Bruce Talbot wrote: Actually, Houston TX is worse - much worse. Yup. /Richard puts on his gray knight armor Models, a word of advice (though I'm preaching to the choir): The word "WE" is, to me, more of a wannabe/GWC red flag than even using the third person. Some legitimate photographers do it, but it's obvious from their site that they are a team of people--a photographer with a MUA wife, two photographers shooting weddings, etc. But usually, it's some no-name hack trying to start an agency/promotions company/movie studio/whatever from his mom's basement, hoping desperately that his old lady won't discover the castings for his sexy calendar project. The other giveaway is an ridiculously overblown name (e.g., "Global Hot Model Professional Productions and Design, LLC").
Photographer
Garry k
Posts: 30130
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Wardrobe Stylist
Decadence D
Posts: 719
Chicago, Illinois, US
Bruce Talbot wrote: You've not disclosed who is responsible for 'providing' you with my images. I have a strong feeling he won't disclose who is responsible because than he'd be telling on himself. *edit: just read above he's gone now
Photographer
danno watts
Posts: 558
Phoenix, Arizona, US
so funny too, taken directly from his myspace: I do flyers to photoshoots so give me a note if you interested! yeah, his 'designer' did it. hahaha. Rocksteady, Danno~
Photographer
danno watts
Posts: 558
Phoenix, Arizona, US
HAHAHAHA!!! Fuckin hilarious. It's like he just went through and randomly selected photographer's pictures that fit his need and just used 'em. Here's another flyer of his from July, and look at that, Tony Chu's ( # 12542 ) watermark is still on it: just hilarious the audacity of this guy. I'll send a link to this thread to tony as well. Rocksteady, Danno~
Photographer
Blue Ash Film Group
Posts: 10343
Cincinnati, Ohio, US
I think we will miss such a "personality" on this site. After all, he is the "coolest photographer" in Baltimore. Apparently it is now cool to steal others work and use it as you wish.
Photographer
Vance C McDaniel
Posts: 7609
Los Angeles, California, US
Damn, I wish he would have stolen my images. I need some cash for the holidays.. DRAT!
Photographer
danno watts
Posts: 558
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Vance - True Image wrote: Damn, I wish he would have stolen my images. I need some cash for the holidays.. DRAT! how about this. you steal mine and i'll steal yours. we'll screw over the legal system and we'll both have holiday cash!!! Rocksteady, Danno~
Photographer
Francisco Gasparri
Posts: 527
Marietta, Georgia, US
A Twisted Mind wrote:
Usually people let you know, especially if they are a fan of your work... Damn...you guys have fans....... I thought that was extra or something....
Photographer
Morbid Bunny Images
Posts: 185
North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Robstyles Photo wrote: I do apologize about the mix up with the photos. We @ Brownstyle.net did not intend to get this type of reaction from the photography community. We have many designers that assist in creating ads and unfortunately the photos were used and we are sorry, and are apologetic about that. If anyone has a problem with clearing a issue, feel to contact me @ [email protected] ..and we will clear up any issues you have with me personally or any issues with the company. again we do apologize for any inconvenience this matter may have caused, and we are currently working with our web designers to clear up the issue. Sounds like a feeble B*** S*** excuse to me. Maybe if you were telling the truth you looser, you'd fire the dweeb responsible and let everyone know that you did. I think in addition to BS I smell someone frantically covering their ass!
Photographer
Vance C McDaniel
Posts: 7609
Los Angeles, California, US
The Photo Collective wrote:
how about this. you steal mine and i'll steal yours. we'll screw over the legal system and we'll both have holiday cash!!! Rocksteady, Danno~ Cha Ching!
Model
babyjenny
Posts: 25
Abbeville, Alabama, US
shouldn't this go to ... like court? i mean.. it's a very serious thing right? it's so not nice.. and what's up with the pretentiousness there... err.. (sorry about the spelling;;if it's wrong;; >.
Photographer
Archived
Posts: 13509
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Model
babyjenny
Posts: 25
Abbeville, Alabama, US
Pink Beauty wrote: #1... If you personally did not steal the images, authorize the use of stolen images or approve images after you saw them and your designers work for a company then their employers need to know what has happened and you need to prove your claim to those employers so their are repercussions in their careers beyond getting a slap on the hand from you/your company. #2... because you say that the designers are responsible for the copyright infringments it is obvious that you did not take the pictures yourself which means #2... If this is your company and you are in charge and the designers are not submitting costs \ for the hiring of models, photographers, wardrobe, makeup, wardrobe etc. and your accountant is not writing checks and accounting the books to cover these costs then you DO know something isn't quite right with what is going on. An honest company would be immediately suspicious, suspend the designers pending an immediate investigation of that and other work by those people until it is cleared up. Turns out the claim is false, no problem. Turns out the claim is true uh-oh, get it cleared up with the copywrite holders before rather than after they find out... etc. And lastly, even if someone does not put a watermark on their image, whether it is a photograph or writing or whatever, the placement of it on the Internet is copyrighted automatically. Look into the laws. Legitimate online businesses are quite knowledgeable about this fact. P. AGREE! i wish i was this smart : D
Model
tuere
Posts: 172
Baltimore, Maryland, US
so question. i see PLENTY of flyers with models on them. like all the time, are you telling me that MOST of them are illegaly used?? because i know those guys are not taking the pics of those girls themselves!!
Photographer
lll
Posts: 12295
Seattle, Washington, US
al graham wrote:
You mean lock the thread for "outing?" The subject admitted to it, so it's a moot point now. No, but at this point I think people already know that I have removed him, permanently, from MM.
Photographer
Mikell
Posts: 26688
San Francisco, California, US
Jason McKendricks wrote: Moey?
Photographer
LeDeux Art
Posts: 50123
San Ramon, California, US
Wardrobe Stylist
Decadence D
Posts: 719
Chicago, Illinois, US
tuere wrote: so question. i see PLENTY of flyers with models on them. like all the time, are you telling me that MOST of them are illegaly used?? because i know those guys are not taking the pics of those girls themselves!! Yep, most of them are. That's why it's best to get stuff like that done with a reputable people who have accounts with stock photography/image providers.
Photographer
Vance C McDaniel
Posts: 7609
Los Angeles, California, US
Decadence D wrote:
Yep, most of them are. That's why it's best to get stuff like that done with a reputable people who have accounts with stock photography/image providers. True that.. I was just hired to create a promo for an even tin LA.. I asked what the y wanted and they started rattling off the images they would like. I asked if they had them and they said NO.. I said they would need to shoot them or use graphic art work I create for them. People have no idea what it takes to do an ad properly and legal like. It's amazing..
Model
tuere
Posts: 172
Baltimore, Maryland, US
Vance - True Image wrote: True that.. I was just hired to create a promo for an even tin LA.. I asked what the y wanted and they started rattling off the images they would like. I asked if they had them and they said NO.. I said they would need to shoot them or use graphic art work I create for them. People have no idea what it takes to do an ad properly and legal like. It's amazing.. it really is!! i know this may sound dumb but even pics of celebs are illegal? a lot of guys use like the flavor of love girls (if u call them celebs) on flyers. that's not cool either? i'm sorry to bother you guys, and more questions i have on this i will look up but this is really interesting to me.
Wardrobe Stylist
Decadence D
Posts: 719
Chicago, Illinois, US
tuere wrote: it really is!! i know this may sound dumb but even pics of celebs are illegal? a lot of guys use like the flavor of love girls (if u call them celebs) on flyers. that's not cool either? i'm sorry to bother you guys, and more questions i have on this i will look up but this is really interesting to me. If they didn't take the pictures themselves, paid to have them taken, or paid for their usuage and are generating revenue from usuage of said images, it is illegal. People think because celebrity pictures are so public and common there's nothing wrong with using them. Nope, someone, be it the photographer (author of image), Associated Press, or whoever, but someone has a copyright to those images.
Model
tuere
Posts: 172
Baltimore, Maryland, US
okay!! thanks for the info!!
Photographer
Opes Photography
Posts: 122
Baltimore, Maryland, US
It is a simple issue. The photographer owns a copyright of all images he takes . That photographer can grant use of that image, or transfer the copyright - both are done in writing. Without the photographers permission - legally nobody can use his image or any derivative of his image. Normally transfer of copyright is done for lots of $. Chris tuere wrote:
it really is!! i know this may sound dumb but even pics of celebs are illegal? a lot of guys use like the flavor of love girls (if u call them celebs) on flyers. that's not cool either? i'm sorry to bother you guys, and more questions i have on this i will look up but this is really interesting to me.
Photographer
WIP
Posts: 15973
Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom
We @ Brownstyle.net should be made to pay compensation for the theft of images. They have made money out of other peoples work. Many thanks to Bruce Talbot for pointing this thief out.
Photographer
Opes Photography
Posts: 122
Baltimore, Maryland, US
You are mostly right - except the generating revenue. I can't take another photogs work and post it on a billboard saying something like "Don't eat meat". I don't generate revenue from it - but it is still illegal and a copyright infringement. Decadence D wrote:
If they didn't take the pictures themselves, paid to have them taken, or paid for their usuage and are generating revenue from usuage of said images, it is illegal. People think because celebrity pictures are so public and common there's nothing wrong with using them. Nope, someone, be it the photographer (author of image), Associated Press, or whoever, but someone has a copyright to those images.
Photographer
Opes Photography
Posts: 122
Baltimore, Maryland, US
For the record .... some photogs in Baltimore actually take their own pictures Good or bad - I own all of mine
Photographer
Mikell
Posts: 26688
San Francisco, California, US
Decadence D wrote:
If they didn't take the pictures themselves, paid to have them taken, or paid for their usuage and are generating revenue from usuage of said images, it is illegal. People think because celebrity pictures are so public and common there's nothing wrong with using them. Nope, someone, be it the photographer (author of image), Associated Press, or whoever, but someone has a copyright to those images. even if they are long dead in most cases someone owns the rights to their likeness
Photographer
Hughes Photography
Posts: 66
Yuba City, California, US
I can't wait until I'm good enough for people to steal my images....... 'sniff' 'sniff'..... I'd be so proud........
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tuere
Posts: 172
Baltimore, Maryland, US
Hughes Photography wrote: I can't wait until I'm good enough for people to steal my images....... 'sniff' 'sniff'..... I'd be so proud........ lol!!
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