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Mark Perdomo

Posts: 7

Ellicott City, Maryland, US

I have been looking at Dav Black's website a bunch, and seen his articles about light painting, but it never sunk in until I saw this video:

http://www.sportsshooter.com/special_fe … index.html

They used the technique for a model.

Normally, I dont shoot this kind of stuff (my profile here is mostly a "standby" type of thing), but I really want to find someone to go do a lightpainting expedition with....it'd be really interesting!

Jun 08 05 07:22 pm Link

Photographer

Worlds Of Water

Posts: 37732

Rancho Cucamonga, California, US

My very first 'paint with light' assignment was dished out to me while I was a photographer in the US Air Force.  My squadron commander called me and told me that the base commander wanted a black and white photograph taken of the inside of hanger #3, with 5 aircraft inside, and he wanted the photo TOMORROW MORNING!  It was 4:30 in the afternoon in January, and the sun had already set behind a hill by that hanger.  I told the squadron commander that all I had was a Vivitar 283 flash and a Pentax Spotmatic 35mm camera.  He told me:  'I don't give a shit what kind of equipment you have.  Get the fuck out there and get that picture, or Im gonna have your ass on a platter in the morning'. (they're not big on compassion or ediquette in the military).  By the time I got to hanger #3, it was dark.  The hanger had only two (100 watt light bulbs inside, one above each door, not near enough 'available light' to provide anything decent for a photo.  So here's what I did.  I sat the Pentax (with a fixed 28mm lens) on a tripod, and elevated the camera approximately 20 off the floor on a roller transport cockpit ladder.  I set the camera on the 'bulb' setting (camera shutter is open until you deactivate it).  While the shutter was open (approx 7 minutes), I turned off both the door lights, ran round inside the almost pitch black hanger, flashing the Vivitar 283 flash in various corners of the building, also flashing each plane in a few different locations.  I performed this ritual a total of 6 different times (six photos) that evening, running around inside that hanger, looking like a moron to a few foot soldier security guards.  They asked me what I was doing, and when I told them, the said:   That's fucking crazy... those pictures aren't gonna turn out'.  I said:  Wanna bet?  After I developed the film, I found one shot in particular that was quite sufficient, with all the planes lit up, and enough detail on the inside of the building to print up a pretty decent photo. 

Jun 08 05 08:38 pm Link

Photographer

Marcus J. Ranum

Posts: 3247

MORRISDALE, Pennsylvania, US

Posted by Mark Perdomo: 
Normally, I dont shoot this kind of stuff (my profile here is mostly a "standby" type of thing), but I really want to find someone to go do a lightpainting expedition with....it'd be really interesting!

If you want another cool source for lighpainting sort of stuff look at some of O Winston Link's pictures of trains. They're not exactly light-painted but they're kind of blurring the line.

I did a fun lightpaint in Baltimore's own B&O train museum. There was a really cool shiny metal piston on a locomotive but no light. I had a little handheld flash. So I computed the exposure was going to be 1 pop of the flash at f/5.6 so instead I did 16 pops at f/11 and it came out perfectly. Bracketing (32 pops!) was a bitch. wink   Since then I've used the technique for other tricks like forcing a caught highlight on a surface with a single pop here or there.

I've tried using flashlights to lightpaint and it doesn't work so well. There are expensive doodads called "light hoses" in case you have too much money and there's no cocaine left to spend it on.

There's some cool lightpaint opportunities in Baltimore! How about that sub in the harbor?

Be careful, though. Light-painting is SECRET. If the "photoshop haters" find out that "real photographers" manipulate their images, we'll lose all credibility. wink

mjr.

Jun 08 05 08:56 pm Link

Photographer

Cicada

Posts: 128

Indian Wells, California, US

ive been experimenting with lightpainting with still lifes lately...fun stuff.

Jun 09 05 01:13 am Link

Photographer

Jarod

Posts: 87

Malibu, California, US

That must be annoying as hell for the model to get light flashing back and forth in her face like that though.

Jun 09 05 01:50 am Link

Photographer

Arturo J

Posts: 126

Fremont, California, US

Marcus..O Winston Link work is amazing isn't it?
Regarding light painting, I used a HoseMaster for a couple years
way back-this device was extremely bright and had all sorts
of controls and tips...very cool. I would mix strobe on the face
to freeze expressions and 'paint' everything else. I eventually
got tired of running around in the dark dressed in black like
some crazy photo-ninja.

Jun 09 05 01:57 am Link

Photographer

Posts: 5264

New York, New York, US

Posted by Arturo J: 
I would mix strobe on the face
to freeze expressions and 'paint' everything else. I eventually
got tired of running around in the dark dressed in black like
some crazy photo-ninja. 

Yes,  I use the same for I do not usually like the full on light painting look.  A mix is good.
Yes,  one can get tired of the running around.

One of my first photos I took when I was 12 was light painting.  When I have a chance I will post it.  Nothing in my port at this time but maybe in the future.

Many models do not like the process though.  They often think I am an idiot until they see the photos.





Then I open my mouth again and the models are back to thinking I am an idiot.

Jun 09 05 08:03 am Link

Photographer

Marcus J. Ranum

Posts: 3247

MORRISDALE, Pennsylvania, US

Posted by Arturo J: 
I eventually got tired of running around in the dark dressed in black like some crazy photo-ninja. 

LOL! That gives me a heck of a mental image! smile

My guess is lightpainting is going to go the way of the dodo bird, huh? Shoot it in photoshop with 8 different exposures blah blah composite layer blah blah blur layer adjustment focus blah blah presto!

mjr.

Jun 09 05 08:56 am Link

Model

Jin

Posts: 534

Martinsburg, West Virginia, US

Okay, I responded but the page timed out.  sad

I said....I've done several light painting shoots before.  You can contact me to see images.

And I said more but I don't remember and I don't feel like typing something else that'll make me sound stupid. lol

Jun 09 05 09:03 am Link

Photographer

Posts: 5264

New York, New York, US

Posted by Marcus J. Ranum: 

Posted by Arturo J: 
I eventually got tired of running around in the dark dressed in black like some crazy photo-ninja. 

LOL! That gives me a heck of a mental image! smile

My guess is lightpainting is going to go the way of the dodo bird, huh? Shoot it in photoshop with 8 different exposures blah blah composite layer blah blah blur layer adjustment focus blah blah presto!

mjr.

I do not know about Presto. 
I do find the mystery of not knowing exactly what one is getting to be interesting.

To find things that you did not think about before.   I find the computer to be limiting with the imagination at times.

Jun 09 05 09:11 am Link

Photographer

Arturo J

Posts: 126

Fremont, California, US

I'll post a light paint shot I did long ago sometime soon. I also like the idea
of mystery or just the fact each shot will be different. Digital does take the
pain away since results are available now. Us old-timers used something
called "polaroids" back in the day to get the painting more or less down.
Also...this is VERY important. Do NOT wear white socks with your Ninja
outfit.

Jun 09 05 11:40 pm Link

Photographer

Stuart Photography

Posts: 5938

Tampa, Florida, US

This is a light painted image.
D100, 2 pink flashlights.

Best,
Stu

https://www.stuartphotography.com/fineart/DSC_2258-copy.jpg

Jun 10 05 09:06 am Link

Photographer

Jarod

Posts: 87

Malibu, California, US

With light painting wouldn't the model have to pose perfectly still since you're keeping the shutter open longer?

Jun 10 05 12:14 pm Link

Photographer

Posts: 5264

New York, New York, US

Posted by Jarod: 
With light painting wouldn't the model have to pose perfectly still since you're keeping the shutter open longer?

Depends on the technique and the outcome wanted.

Jun 10 05 02:17 pm Link

Photographer

Scott Aitken

Posts: 3587

Seattle, Washington, US

I have been experimenting extensively with "painting with light" for the last year or so. It is becoming my signature style, and many people are blown away by these photos when they learn that they are NOT digital manipulations, but done with light alone.

Yes, Jarod, the model has to pose perfectly still. I usually use 30 second exposures, but occasionally have done as long as 2 minutes for particularly challenging images.

I do not use flash or strobes. I use a hand-held tungsten light with a 25 watt bulb. I move around directing the light selectively at the model and/or the backdrop until I achieve an interesting lighting effect. All of mine were done in a studio setting, but I've seen others do this outdoors at night.

I have a handful of these images in my MM portfolio, and a bunch of them on my website
(http://www.scottpix.com/gallery/people/paintwl.html)

Another good photographer using this technique (whom I actually learned it from) is the Danish photographer Emil Schildt
(http://www.vraahojskole.dk/emil/index.htm)

Jun 12 05 08:43 pm Link

Photographer

CreativeSandBoxStudio

Posts: 1984

London, England, United Kingdom

As you can see from the still life I have on my images, I have been doing painting with light for years and I have rented a HoseMaster system, but when you are not doing that much with that type of system it's best to rent it instead. Also with teh image I have on my page, I am also working with a polariod back, so I can test the light each exposure before putting it to film.

Jun 12 05 08:52 pm Link

Photographer

Posts: 5264

New York, New York, US

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/calvinhana/marksroom12smaller.jpg
2005 Marksora

This was one of the first pictures that I ever took when I was 12 years old.  I will try to find some more from the series and others.

And this is from 1993 Friday magazine,  on my billboard project in NY city with various uses of light painting to portray Gods and Goddess of today's consumer culture.

This was on the corner of Broadway and Prince st.  It lasted 15 months from beginning to end.  With A total of 8 separate main billboards.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v691/calvinhana/billboardsmall.jpg
1993 Marksora

Jun 12 05 08:57 pm Link

Model

Shyly

Posts: 3870

Pasadena, California, US

Posted by Jarod: 
With light painting wouldn't the model have to pose perfectly still since you're keeping the shutter open longer?

I did a light painting shoot last week, though a lot of the painting was around me as opposed to on me.  The only time I had to hold perfectly still (as in, don't even breathe, let alone blink) was when the light source was on my face.  Other than that, it was blinking and breathing as normal.

Jun 13 05 10:02 am Link

Photographer

Brandon Luna

Posts: 180

Dallas, Texas, US

Love Light Painting. I have been experimenting with it for a little under a year now. I had quite a few light painting images up on MM but took them down recently. You can view my light painting work at my site however at
http://www.lunadigitalphoto.com
I do straight up light painting and a combination of light painting and strobes. Im hooked!

Jun 16 05 06:33 am Link

Model

Jin

Posts: 534

Martinsburg, West Virginia, US

I love light painting.  It's very cool stuff.  smile

Jun 25 05 09:09 pm Link

Photographer

BarryH

Posts: 864

Taipei City, Taipei City, Taiwan

Scott, I was going to recommend Emil Schildt's work, but you beat me to it.  He has amazing control of the process.

Jun 26 05 09:44 am Link

Photographer

Posts: 5264

New York, New York, US



light painting thread

This is a possible collaboration shoot for lighting painting if interested.

Jun 27 05 12:42 am Link

Photographer

Hugh Jorgen

Posts: 2850

Ashland, Oregon, US

Posted by Alex Alexander: 
As you can see from the still life I have on my images, I have been doing painting with light for years and I have rented a HoseMaster system, but when you are not doing that much with that type of system it's best to rent it instead. Also with teh image I have on my page, I am also working with a polariod back, so I can test the light each exposure before putting it to film.

Hey Alex thats what the girls used to call me!!
Dont think its the same thing though..

Did a shoot last nite with the new generation LEDs
Oh yea light painting

Jul 06 05 09:06 pm Link

Photographer

Inerlogic

Posts: 23

Fairhaven, Massachusetts, US

Posted by Jarod: 
That must be annoying as hell for the model to get light flashing back and forth in her face like that though. 

i was a poet, but i got tired of suffering for my art.
i became a photographer so i could make OTHER PEOPLE suffer for my art.

smile

Jul 06 05 09:33 pm Link

Photographer

Stuart Photography

Posts: 5938

Tampa, Florida, US

thought some of you might get a kick out of this...

selling my house, and wanted a more interesting shot of my backyard, so I came up with this....yes, i know the ropelights are hot, but I did light paint the grass with a single flashlight.

d2x, 5 seconds at F4, 12mm, iso 100. gitzo 1548 tripod.

https://www.stuartphotography.com/d2x/1DSC2258.jpg

Jul 12 05 06:50 am Link