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Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

Hi Everyone.

I am doing three pageants and they require those severely retouched photos like the ones at:

www.beckycarter.com

and I had one retouched to look like the photos by a pageant retoucher and I posted it (Photo #1) I would just like some input. Should I have her change the background? Should I do a different shot? I was trying to avoid paying $700 for a shoot with a glitz photographer and then the other $700 in travel to get to middle america or down south from the east coast.

Apr 01 08 08:32 am Link

Retoucher

StaceyClarke Retouching

Posts: 642

Swansea, Illinois, US

take a photo of a doll.
thats the closest someone can get to the photos on that site.


tongue


you got close though...
brighten it a bit.


https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=266956

Apr 01 08 08:38 am Link

Model

Lisann DeVaul

Posts: 885

Slippery Rock, Pennsylvania, US

That site is scary! Please PLEASE tell me those little girls eyebrows are retouched and not actually plucked!

Looks like you've got it pretty close though. The eyes look like a doll!

Apr 01 08 08:44 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

thank you, i agree

Apr 01 08 08:44 am Link

Photographer

Bubba Level

Posts: 1911

Paris, Arkansas, US

That image is horrible... Your pupils aren't even in the center of your eye.

Apr 01 08 08:44 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

some mothers wax the kids eyebrows and dye there hair and they wear fake teeth called flippers and are airbrush tanned and use hair extensions, im doing it as my own decision and they can be lucrative if u win but i agree that the kids who dont really know if they want to do it, shouldnt be forced

Apr 01 08 08:46 am Link

Photographer

Daniel LaHaie

Posts: 326

Fairview, Oregon, US

Why would a pageant require this kind of retouching? I mean seriously...You(or any of the kids on the site that you linked to), will not look that way when you walk up on a stage, so what is the point of doing it?

In regards to the touch up, it looks flat and kind of splotchy(is that a word?) in spots. The edge around your hair does not blend into the background very well either. Sort of a distraction.

Hope this helps

Apr 01 08 08:48 am Link

Model

ATB Model

Posts: 678

Orlando, Florida, US

creepy! they all have the same nose... hmm

Apr 01 08 08:49 am Link

Photographer

PYPI FASHION

Posts: 36332

San Francisco, California, US

Erika Sands wrote:
some mothers wax the kids eyebrows and dye there hair and they wear fake teeth called flippers and are airbrush tanned and use hair extensions, im doing it as my own decision and they can be lucrative if u win but i agree that the kids who dont really know if they want to do it, shouldnt be forced

You're doing it for the same reasons the parents are forcing their kids to do it.

Apr 01 08 08:49 am Link

Photographer

PYPI FASHION

Posts: 36332

San Francisco, California, US

Daniel LaHaie wrote:
Why would a pageant require this kind of retouching? I mean seriously...You(or any of the kids on the site that you linked to), will not look that way when you walk up on a stage, so what is the point of doing it?

In regards to the touch up, it looks flat and kind of splotchy(is that a word?) in spots. The edge around your hair does not blend into the background very well either. Sort of a distraction.

Hope this helps

Because this is the concept of beauty from the eyes of a 60 year old pageant director who has had 20 facial procedures done.

Apr 01 08 08:50 am Link

Retoucher

StaceyClarke Retouching

Posts: 642

Swansea, Illinois, US

Erika Sands wrote:
some mothers wax the kids eyebrows and dye there hair and they wear fake teeth called flippers and are airbrush tanned and use hair extensions, im doing it as my own decision and they can be lucrative if u win but i agree that the kids who dont really know if they want to do it, shouldnt be forced

young children..
just get edited..
no bad tans etc..

before and afters

http://naturalbeautiescontest.homestead … uch4a.html

i agree with the other comment about the hair on your photo, isnt well blended though

Apr 01 08 08:51 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

PYPI wrote:

You're doing it for the same reasons the parents are forcing their kids to do it.

Yes, and they are fun too.... you meet a lot of nice people.

Apr 01 08 08:51 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

StaceyClarke Retouching wrote:

young children..
just get edited..
no bad tans etc..

before and afters

http://naturalbeautiescontest.homestead … uch4a.html

i agree with the other comment about the hair on your photo, isnt well blended though

thank you for this link....

I actually have them retouching a photo for me, i havent received it back yet

Apr 01 08 08:52 am Link

Model

Sascha

Posts: 2217

Tokyo, Tokyo, Japan

OMG... I can't sleep now ; P

Apr 01 08 08:55 am Link

Retoucher

StaceyClarke Retouching

Posts: 642

Swansea, Illinois, US

Erika Sands wrote:

thank you for this link....

I actually have them retouching a photo for me, i havent received it back yet

smile even though im not a fan of the whole editing children like women thing..

i like the 4th 1 down in the second row smile
id love to have a photo like that done when i was younger smile
http://www.beckycarter.com/color.html

Apr 01 08 08:55 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

StaceyClarke Retouching wrote:

smile even though im not a fan of the whole editing children like women thing..

i like the 4th 1 down in the second row smile
id love to have a photo like that done when i was younger smile
http://www.beckycarter.com/color.html

some of them are cute but its so expensive because in NY its not pageant town and there are hardly any photographers that can do this and the retouching the way they can in pageant areas . . .

Apr 01 08 08:59 am Link

Retoucher

StaceyClarke Retouching

Posts: 642

Swansea, Illinois, US

Erika Sands wrote:

some of them are cute but its so expensive because in NY its not pageant town and there are hardly any photographers that can do this and the retouching the way they can in pageant areas . . .

its shocking how many people acually want to pay so much money to get a photo like that!

(might have to try one, on day lol!)

Apr 01 08 09:02 am Link

Photographer

Bubba Level

Posts: 1911

Paris, Arkansas, US

Erika Sands wrote:

some of them are cute but its so expensive because in NY its not pageant town and there are hardly any photographers that can do this and the retouching the way they can in pageant areas . . .

It's not that they can't do it... it's more that they won't do it...

Apr 01 08 09:05 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

StaceyClarke Retouching wrote:

its shocking how many people acually want to pay so much money to get a photo like that!

(might have to try one, on day lol!)

lemme know how it works out for u smile

Apr 01 08 09:06 am Link

Model

Lisann DeVaul

Posts: 885

Slippery Rock, Pennsylvania, US

Apr 01 08 09:07 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

btdsgns wrote:

It's not that they can't do it... it's more that they won't do it...

i dont see what I AM DOING that is so wrong, i am not pushing my kid i already am a woman lol so if anyone on here is interested in shooting some images like this -- i need a bunch of different looks so i can use multiple shoots trying the same thing smile

Apr 01 08 09:08 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

Lisann DeVaul wrote:
Just get one of these:
http://www.mytwinn.com/index.html?s_kwc … |486165142

hah!

Apr 01 08 09:09 am Link

Photographer

Daniel LaHaie

Posts: 326

Fairview, Oregon, US

PYPI wrote:
Because this is the concept of beauty from the eyes of a 60 year old pageant director who has had 20 facial procedures done.

Made me think of a scene from one of my favorite movies....
https://www.uncoolkids.com/pics/June/brazil.jpg
Sorry don't mean to threadjack....will edit if needed

Apr 01 08 09:10 am Link

Photographer

Bubba Level

Posts: 1911

Paris, Arkansas, US

Erika Sands wrote:

i dont see what I AM DOING that is so wrong, i am not pushing my kid i already am a woman lol so if anyone on here is interested in shooting some images like this -- i need a bunch of different looks so i can use multiple shoots trying the same thing smile

I don't think you're doing anything wrong... I think those retouchers are doing something wrong... they're doing bad retouching... smile

Apr 01 08 09:13 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

btdsgns wrote:

I don't think you're doing anything wrong... I think those retouchers are doing something wrong... they're doing bad retouching... smile

lol

btw, ur avatar is so cool!

Apr 01 08 09:15 am Link

Retoucher

StaceyClarke Retouching

Posts: 642

Swansea, Illinois, US

Lisann DeVaul wrote:
Just get one of these:
http://www.mytwinn.com/index.html?s_kwc … |486165142

im getting one!

Apr 01 08 09:16 am Link

Model

Star In The Attic

Posts: 115

Austin, Texas, US

If you want a good photo, you're just going to have to shell out the money.  You get what you pay for and it shows in your picture.

Apr 01 08 09:20 am Link

Makeup Artist

TorontoMakeupArtist

Posts: 1278

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

This image doesn't have the smoothness of the others and isnt following the same style really.

The background should change, should be much brighter. You should crop in way closer. There is no need to see the logo on your sweater. Over all the whole thing needs to be way brighter. Your cheeks to look splotchy and your eyes look like they belong to two different people looking in opposite directions.....

i don't mean to sound harsh. This isnt a great style looking to mimic but if that's what you want, you've got a ways to go. Good luck.

Apr 01 08 09:22 am Link

Retoucher

StaceyClarke Retouching

Posts: 642

Swansea, Illinois, US

can i show you a try?

(using your photo?)

Apr 01 08 09:34 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

StaceyClarke Retouching wrote:
can i show you a try?

(using your photo?)

surely!

Apr 01 08 09:36 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

Ashley Readings wrote:
This image doesn't have the smoothness of the others and isnt following the same style really.

The background should change, should be much brighter. You should crop in way closer. There is no need to see the logo on your sweater. Over all the whole thing needs to be way brighter. Your cheeks to look splotchy and your eyes look like they belong to two different people looking in opposite directions.....

i don't mean to sound harsh. This isnt a great style looking to mimic but if that's what you want, you've got a ways to go. Good luck.

thank you very very much

Apr 01 08 09:36 am Link

Retoucher

StaceyClarke Retouching

Posts: 642

Swansea, Illinois, US

Erika Sands wrote:

surely!

(i didnt fix the hair edges or anything, would take too long..)
quickly rushed the airbrushing etc but it just shows you example  of the face how much airbrushing 'i' think it needs to be like that doll site..
(obviously would look better if more time was spent on it lol.
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2163/2379474313_09bf4ea668_o.jpg

Apr 01 08 09:44 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

StaceyClarke Retouching wrote:

(i didnt fix the hair edges or anything, would take too long..)
quickly rushed the airbrushing etc but it just shows you example  of the face how much airbrushing 'i' think it needs to be like that doll site..
(obviously would look better if more time was spent on it lol.
https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2163/2379474313_09bf4ea668_o.jpg

omg can i use this for the pageant instead of what was sent to me? do i have your permission? its a step up already

Apr 01 08 09:46 am Link

Retoucher

StaceyClarke Retouching

Posts: 642

Swansea, Illinois, US

Erika Sands wrote:

omg can i use this for the pageant instead of what was sent to me? do i have your permission? its a step up already

i did it crap....and quick
its really poorly done...they will  notice..
and i doubt they will let you win from that photo.. but you have permission lol.

Apr 01 08 09:48 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

StaceyClarke Retouching wrote:

i did it crap....and quick
its really poorly done...they will  notice..
and i doubt they will let you win from that photo.. but you have permission lol.

its better then what i had

Apr 01 08 09:50 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

StaceyClarke Retouching wrote:

i did it crap....and quick
its really poorly done...they will  notice..
and i doubt they will let you win from that photo.. but you have permission lol.

i posted it

Apr 01 08 09:52 am Link

Retoucher

StaceyClarke Retouching

Posts: 642

Swansea, Illinois, US

Erika Sands wrote:
i posted it

lol! you should have fixed the hair and airbrushing and eyelash lol.

Apr 01 08 09:53 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

StaceyClarke Retouching wrote:

lol! you should have fixed the hair and airbrushing and eyelash lol.

I should have hired you sad

Apr 01 08 10:02 am Link

Photographer

Mountain Image

Posts: 1184

Morgantown, West Virginia, US

StaceyClarke Retouching wrote:
take a photo of a doll.
thats the closest someone can get to the photos on that site.


tongue


you got close though...
brighten it a bit.


https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=266956

Yes it is close I agree, but to me it is pure crap. It appears that you take a professional photo and then try to make it look like soemthing out of an Instamatic. To each their own, but ......................

Apr 01 08 10:08 am Link

Model

ErikaMODELSands

Posts: 242

Commack, New York, US

Mountain Image wrote:

Yes it is close I agree, but to me it is pure crap. It appears that you take a professional photo and then try to make it look like soemthing out of an Instamatic. To each their own, but ......................

i dont necessarily agree with it but i have to have it

Apr 01 08 10:20 am Link