Forums > General Industry > the line between legit and F'n creepy

Photographer

Ron B Blake

Posts: 497

Macomb, Illinois, US

Thanks Don and i agree

Feb 08 06 06:07 pm Link

Photographer

Ron B Blake

Posts: 497

Macomb, Illinois, US

check this out and decide who the real creep is

Mr young quaker oats has mental issues .he tagged this new models portfolio telling her he wishes he was between her legs darlin


can we say busted creep?


https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=54571

Feb 08 06 07:58 pm Link

Photographer

Ron B Blake

Posts: 497

Macomb, Illinois, US

https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=54571


me feed you looong tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime.


darl'n...if you crawled between my legs, you would leave me breathless.

crazy alert

Feb 08 06 08:00 pm Link

Model

Stacy

Posts: 2505

Englewood, Florida, US

BCG wrote:
at what age does it become TOO creepy to be photographing young women naked???...if ya start to look like the quaker oats man, i think its best to find another subject matter.

As long as the quaker oats man carries on a professional attitude, and doesn't shoot pornographic looking photos. I think it's not creepy.

Feb 08 06 08:02 pm Link

Photographer

Ron B Blake

Posts: 497

Macomb, Illinois, US

Stacy wrote:

As long as the quaker oats man carries on a professional attitude, and doesn't shoot pornographic looking photos. I think it's not creepy.

me feed you looong tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime.?????


darl'n...if you crawled between my legs, you would leave me breathless. ???

Right + Right = wrong

Feb 08 06 08:09 pm Link

Photographer

Valkyrur

Posts: 1187

Nelsonville, New York, US

BCG wrote:
at what age does it become TOO creepy to be photographing young women naked???...if ya start to look like the quaker oats man, i think its best to find another subject matter.

It seems more like..  YOU should be not shooting photographs at any age ...

Feb 08 06 10:23 pm Link

Model

theda

Posts: 21719

New York, New York, US

Ed Remington wrote:
I'm not sure there's an age limit to this but I'd be worried when he starts sneaking around the studio calling the models "Precious...My little precious"!!

Hmm... an ex of mine used to call me that... it WAS pretty creepy...

Feb 09 06 12:55 am Link

Photographer

REOO Arts

Posts: 135

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

Digital Magic of Carmel wrote:
This is one of the most stupid comments I have seen in this forum, and, there have been some pretty strange ones.  If a man has a passion for photography, is good at it, and conducts himself in a professional manner, what does age have to do with anything?

Absolutely true

Feb 09 06 12:58 am Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

BCG wrote:
at what age does it become TOO creepy to be photographing young women naked???...if ya start to look like the quaker oats man, i think its best to find another subject matter.

Thanks, I just ate...

I know a photographer that is 60 and has been known to be naked when shooting....No lie.

Ok, I may hurl now...

Feb 09 06 01:02 am Link

Photographer

Hoot

Posts: 228

Picayune, Mississippi, US

Ron B Blake wrote:
check this out and decide who the real creep is

Mr young quaker oats has mental issues .he tagged this new models portfolio telling her he wishes he was between her legs darlin


can we say busted creep?


https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=54571

I dunno Ron, she's talking back to him. Check his tags.


Then again, anybody that thinks a photographers advanced age should disqualify him (or her) from shooting nudes has some personal issues to deal with, tags or no tags.

Feb 09 06 01:25 am Link

Photographer

Lens N Light

Posts: 16341

Bradford, Vermont, US

I've waited to post this until I found out what the majority of you "younsters" had to say. It is a situation about which I had no persnal doubt, but I wasn't sure how photographers and models (hell, people) who are less than half my age thought about it.
I am encouraged by these posts. Other than those made entirely for their humor value, most of you seem to think that professional behavior is more important than age. I, of course, agree.
One more thing to reinforce that attitude is this:
People of my age group (beyond retirement age) grew up in a culture where manners and courtesy were considered paramount. How you said or did somethng was as important as what you said or did. Our parents and teachers enforced that attitude with an iron fist. It was more embarassing to a parent to be told his kid was rude than to say he was a thief. I'm serious about that.
Those values stick with you for life. To this day, it is a gut-wrenching experience to read someone off viciously. (Of course, one of the primary courses in Poli.. Sci. is to teach you to ignore that.) It was a kinder, gentler time, although perhaps not as brutally honest!
All this input from people I would like to call my peers is encouraging. Thank you.

Feb 09 06 08:01 am Link

Photographer

Ian DeBow

Posts: 57

Portland, Oregon, US

BCG wrote:
at what age does it become TOO creepy to be photographing young women naked???...if ya start to look like the quaker oats man, i think its best to find another subject matter.

ever seen Picasso's work???

women wanted to get naked for him and he didnt even paint them but rather simply threw some blobs of paint in a vague resemblance of human form onto a canvas and became extremely famous.  Go figure.

Feb 09 06 08:13 am Link

Photographer

Duncan

Posts: 2135

New York, New York, US

Horst, Avedon, Penn, Newton, All old (or Dead!) and we could learn something from all of them age has nothing to do with it!

Feb 09 06 09:59 pm Link

Photographer

Vance C McDaniel

Posts: 7609

Los Angeles, California, US

I'd like to think as I get older I wll get better...And plus..HELL after a certain age I'd hope to have a great name and young hot chicks wont see me as a threat and may actually seek me out for my skills. Knowing I am well beyond chasing em around the studio for some knooky......LOL

BCG...you really sit around and think this stuff up hey?

Dont you have a mission or something to tend too?



shrug..

Feb 10 06 12:35 am Link

Photographer

Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

Bluemoon Photography wrote:
What about ugly vs good looking photogs?

I've been told I look like Regis Philbin (shudders) and I was in a bad car accident where I lost 15 teeth that have been replaced with partials (upper and lower) but I try no to scare any models during my shoot.

I know theres worse looking out there

Feb 10 06 12:42 am Link

Model

Diane ly

Posts: 1068

Manhattan, Illinois, US

I don't know...parents photograph their kids nude when they are new borns. 

With the way the world is so jaded these days....I don't think anything would surprise me anymore!

Feb 10 06 12:43 am Link

Photographer

Vance C McDaniel

Posts: 7609

Los Angeles, California, US

Diana Moffitt wrote:
I don't know...parents photograph their kids nude when they are new borns. 

With the way the world is so jaded these days....I don't think anything would surprise me anymore!

in me power...!!!

Feb 10 06 12:52 am Link

Photographer

BCG

Posts: 7316

San Antonio, Florida, US

Ron B Blake wrote:
check this out and decide who the real creep is

Mr young quaker oats has mental issues .he tagged this new models portfolio telling her he wishes he was between her legs darlin


can we say busted creep?


https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=54571

read the entire dialog which took place in the comments AND tag sections before you make allegations that you are not qualified nor licensed to make!?!

Feb 10 06 06:41 am Link

Photographer

BCG

Posts: 7316

San Antonio, Florida, US

Ron B Blake wrote:
check this out and decide who the real creep is

Mr young quaker oats has mental issues .he tagged this new models portfolio telling her he wishes he was between her legs darlin


can we say busted creep?


https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=54571

"busted creep"???...sounds as if someone is still upset over the loss at the alamobowl!!!...misquoting and making medical diagnosises without a medical backgound could lead to litigation in todays world...read the cute banter in its entirety before you try and trump a "creep" card...you are no johnny cochran.



you may wish to appologize to MM#54571 for casting her in an unpleasent light...not to do so might be construed as "creepy"

Feb 10 06 06:41 am Link

Photographer

DaG

Posts: 2784

Atlanta, Georgia, US

What does the Quaker Oats guy look like? Is he creepy? Why is a company trying to sell oatmeal with a creepy guy on the box?

Fill me in people, I don't eat oatmeal.

Let me just add that I haven't slept all night.

Feb 10 06 06:59 am Link

Photographer

BCG

Posts: 7316

San Antonio, Florida, US

GFP Studios wrote:
What does the Quaker Oats guy look like? Is he creepy? Why is a company trying to sell oatmeal with a creepy guy on the box?

Fill me in people, I don't eat oatmeal.

Let me just add that I haven't slept all night.

imagine a friendly version of wilford brimley, sporting an amish look.

Feb 10 06 11:42 am Link

Photographer

visionmedia

Posts: 183

Troy, Michigan, US

(You know you are too old when)... you are trying to take head shots and are only getting nice pictures of ears and toes. Shakey.

Feb 10 06 11:59 am Link

Photographer

former_mm_user

Posts: 5521

New York, New York, US

D. Brian Nelson wrote:
Helmut Newton died at 83, still photographing erotic nudes.  Coincidentally, his first photography book was published at 54 years old.

beat me to it.

Feb 10 06 12:02 pm Link

Photographer

BCG

Posts: 7316

San Antonio, Florida, US

visionmedia wrote:
(You know you are too old when)... you are trying to take head shots and are only getting nice pictures of ears and toes. Shakey.

thats why they make image stabilizors!!!

Feb 10 06 12:06 pm Link

Photographer

visionmedia

Posts: 183

Troy, Michigan, US

No question is stupid.....Didn't you learn that in like 2nd grade.

Feb 10 06 12:24 pm Link

Model

VakyLaky & DD

Posts: 51

San Antonio, Texas, US

Ron B Blake wrote:
check this out and decide who the real creep is

Mr young quaker oats has mental issues .he tagged this new models portfolio telling her he wishes he was between her legs darlin


can we say busted creep?


https://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=54571

You must be the creep....How can you call him that if you've never met him before...I have and he's no where near "creep status"...and for you to be reading other people's comments is creepy...so look who's talking....

BCG is a ladies man..he's probably had more women than you'll ever have

Feb 10 06 03:14 pm Link

Photographer

BCG

Posts: 7316

San Antonio, Florida, US

MsVakora K wrote:

You must be the creep....How can you call him that if you've never met him before...I have and he's no where near "creep status"...and for you to be reading other people's comments is creepy...so look who's talking....

BCG is a ladies man..he's probably had more women than you'll ever have

for the record...i am NOT a manslut.

Feb 10 06 08:10 pm Link

Photographer

artist

Posts: 294

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

BCG wrote:

most stupid???...ya gotta be new...stick around...and be prepared to be stoopified.

True, I've been around about a month, and you never stop suprising me with your trolls.  I have to agree, this probably is your most stupid yet, or at least in the past 4 weeks.

Scott
aka Bodyartist

Feb 10 06 09:37 pm Link

Photographer

BCG

Posts: 7316

San Antonio, Florida, US

Bodyartist wrote:

True, I've been around about a month, and you never stop suprising me with your trolls.  I have to agree, this probably is your most stupid yet, or at least in the past 4 weeks.

Scott
aka Bodyartist

you should work for th UN...you have ambassador skilz

Feb 11 06 05:53 am Link

Photographer

Marion Z Skydancer

Posts: 22

Asheville, North Carolina, US

Age is typically respected where I come from. I get as many requests to teach camera and set up technique before, during and after shoots as I do anything else. And while the Santa thing can get a little overwhelming sometimes, many of my folk are performing arts and are more than delighted to have someone that looks like they might actually know what they are doing, and is willing to listen to their ideas and needs for their own folios rather than imposing what the photographer might find trendy of the moment.

Trust and reliability, sincere respect and an honest reputation are both priceless and ageless, though it really does take time to gain that experience. After all this time, I continue to learn, to listen and hopefully from time to time gain a little more wisdom in my work and my own life for that matter. But then, I do shoot nudes of all ages also, and I never shoot underage or accept their word on their age.

I will say this though, there was, and still is, a fair sized area of nude work, that is not particularly commercial, but social, in the nudist and naturist lifestyle. And although here in the US that has become more and more iffy in the wisdom of publishing the content due to the all ages family atmosphere generally including a lot of underage children in the images, in other countries, that is not very much a concern. I have a few friends that are both nudists and very fine artists, but they keep their photographic work mostly in the resorts and lifestyle, displaying only their paintings and sculptures at mainstream shows and venues.

In any case... warm and jolly, mellow and respectful.. Creepy we shoot. chuckle.. and not with a camera.
spirits bless,
Marion

Feb 11 06 07:55 am Link

Photographer

Lost Coast Photo

Posts: 2691

Ferndale, California, US

It's completely and totally unrelated to age.

Locally, the two guys with reps as extremely creepy photographers are about 25 and 35 years of age.  There's another guy who is over 65, and has a rep as a gentleman.

This one hits home because there is a guy near here who has a rep as a groper... he's fortunately not a photographer... and I've personally watched him cross the line on one occasion.  He apparently does this one or more times at every social event (he's in his 30s).  I've just been tipped off by some of the local ladies that there are plans in store for him tonight... potentially painful plans.  This could be fun to watch.

Feb 11 06 05:37 pm Link

Photographer

Hoot

Posts: 228

Picayune, Mississippi, US

Ken, you might want to edit out the "accessory before the fact" charge you just left yourself open to.

smile

Feb 11 06 06:27 pm Link

Photographer

Mark Brummitt

Posts: 40527

Clarkston, Michigan, US

Lens N Light wrote:
I've waited to post this until I found out what the majority of you "younsters" had to say. It is a situation about which I had no persnal doubt, but I wasn't sure how photographers and models (hell, people) who are less than half my age thought about it.
I am encouraged by these posts. Other than those made entirely for their humor value, most of you seem to think that professional behavior is more important than age. I, of course, agree.
One more thing to reinforce that attitude is this:
People of my age group (beyond retirement age) grew up in a culture where manners and courtesy were considered paramount. How you said or did somethng was as important as what you said or did. Our parents and teachers enforced that attitude with an iron fist. It was more embarassing to a parent to be told his kid was rude than to say he was a thief. I'm serious about that.
Those values stick with you for life. To this day, it is a gut-wrenching experience to read someone off viciously. (Of course, one of the primary courses in Poli.. Sci. is to teach you to ignore that.) It was a kinder, gentler time, although perhaps not as brutally honest!
All this input from people I would like to call my peers is encouraging. Thank you.

I couldn't have said it better.

Feb 11 06 06:45 pm Link

Photographer

Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

BCG wrote:
at what age does it become TOO creepy to be photographing young women naked???...if ya start to look like the quaker oats man, i think its best to find another subject matter.

that's presuming the only reason you're shooting naked women is to get laid.

the thread topic speaks volumes I suspect to the OP's motivations and world view.

Feb 11 06 06:49 pm Link

Photographer

FabioTovar

Posts: 583

Culver City, California, US

Id say it would be creepy if the photographer started sweating profusely, followed by heavy panting and unbuttoning of any articles of clothing. then again.... this rendition of creepy could also be a warning sign that you photographer is having a heart attack in which case your reaction to OMG! YOU'RE F'IN SICK should be OMG YOU'RE F'IN DYING!
in which case you should either call 911! or your best friend and say..."OMG Jenny.... I am SOOO hot.. I just gave my old photographer a heart attack! I thought he was being perverted but it turns out hes just dying! haha."

Feb 11 06 06:56 pm Link

Model

Nedra McBeadra

Posts: 52

Houston, Texas, US

Nude photography shouldn't be some sexual thing, so it shouldn't be creepy to be photographed by an older man. If I wanted to do nudes, and the best guy happened to be 78, then I'd be photographed by him.

If you're photographing nudes with the intent getting aroused, then you're the creepy one, not the old guy.

Feb 11 06 07:03 pm Link

Photographer

SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

Duncan wrote:
Horst, Avedon, Penn, Newton, All old (or Dead!) and we could learn something from all of them age has nothing to do with it!

Yup, I absolutely hope to keep photographing nudes after I die.
Photographing naked dead women would be creep tho.

Feb 13 06 11:32 pm Link

Model

Lapis

Posts: 8424

Chicago, Illinois, US

Maybe I should change my name to F'n Creepy....

Feb 13 06 11:37 pm Link

Photographer

SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

GFP Studios wrote:
What does the Quaker Oats guy look like? Is he creepy? Why is a company trying to sell oatmeal with a creepy guy on the box?

Fill me in people, I don't eat oatmeal.

Let me just add that I haven't slept all night.

[img src="http://www.quakeroats.ca/graphics/maintitle.jpg"]

Edit on image:STILL can't make it work *sigh*

Feb 13 06 11:37 pm Link

Photographer

SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

Nedra Veritas wrote:
Nude photography shouldn't be some sexual thing, so it shouldn't be creepy to be photographed by an older man. If I wanted to do nudes, and the best guy happened to be 78, then I'd be photographed by him.

So why don't you want to?
No qualified 78 yr old guys?  ;-)

Feb 13 06 11:53 pm Link