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visual kink

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I am editing a shoot right now and i have noticed i have a lot of out of focus shots. The camera seemed to be locking the focus. I didn't have n cont. mode. The shots looked sharp in the view finder. What could be the problem?

Equipment - Nikon D200, Sigma EX 28-70 2.8

Jun 23 08 01:46 pm Link

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visual kink

Posts: 233

View Park-Windsor Hills, California, US

Side note I was not to close for the lens to focus.

Jun 23 08 01:48 pm Link

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FlirtynFun Photography

Posts: 13926

Houston, Texas, US

you're going to have to post some examples...you haven't given enough information. What was the lighting like.. what settings etc

Jun 23 08 01:48 pm Link

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visual kink

Posts: 233

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FlirtynFun Photography wrote:
you're going to have to post some examples...you haven't given enough information. What was the lighting like.. what settings etc

Plenty of natural light, Iso 400, aperture 2.8, shutter speed 160.

Jun 23 08 01:55 pm Link

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Simplesoul26

Posts: 761

Columbia, Maryland, US

Backlighting involved?

Jun 23 08 01:58 pm Link

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visual kink

Posts: 233

View Park-Windsor Hills, California, US

Simplesoul26 wrote:
Backlighting involved?

No it was a basic shot. Nothing fancy.

Jun 23 08 02:02 pm Link

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K. Adam Stockstill

Posts: 338

Austin, Indiana, US

D-200 at iso400 has a lot of noise to begin with.  Combine it with an aperature at 2.8, and you wont have the most sharp, crisp image.
this is only my initial thinking without seeing the image.

Jun 23 08 02:06 pm Link

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Aldo Risolvo

Posts: 75

Downers Grove, Illinois, US

are you use to using 2.8? Might be more "soft" than out of focus??

Jun 23 08 02:07 pm Link

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Chris Macan

Posts: 12978

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

Maybe you had the wrong focus point activated?

Maybe the lens was in manual focus mode?

Maybe the camera is malfunctioning?

Maybe the lens is malfunctioning?


Who knows.....
I doubt we will be able to diagnose it remotely,
even if you do give us more info.

If some are sharp and others are not is likely a focus point issue.

Jun 23 08 02:08 pm Link

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MartinImages

Posts: 3872

Los Angeles, California, US

Sigma lens..you have to be meticulous about your AF.

Make sure you know where your AF point(s) is/are.

And I program my cam with a hot button for focus.  lets you make SURE you're sharp before you click.  that 'half push' is just a bad idea, IMO.   You're wide open so it's very unforgiving.  And make sure you're holding the cam still...if you're zoomed way in at 160 you could be getting some cam movement that's so slight it looks like OOF.

I think if you bought some better glass you'd see a WORLD of improvement in this.  My Tamron did the same thing.  It holds down my bills on my desk now.  smile

B

Jun 23 08 02:09 pm Link

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Leroy Dickson

Posts: 8239

Flint, Michigan, US

Edited:

Actually Sigma lenses can be a bit soft wide open, especially on the far ends of their zoom range.

Jun 23 08 02:09 pm Link

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Chris Macan

Posts: 12978

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

Leroy Dickson wrote:
Focal length? Sensor size?

Read the OP before asking questions that are answered in the post.



D200 = APS 

Lens = 28-70  (IE... should be sharp at 1/160)

Jun 23 08 02:10 pm Link

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BrandonMSweet

Posts: 203

Saint Paul, Alaska, US

Studio 68 wrote:
Plenty of natural light, Iso 400, aperture 2.8, shutter speed 160.

some lenses when you shoot wide open your not going to get as sharp as possible with the lens, its a good idea to close it up a stop or so, thats when youll get the sharpest glass.

Jun 23 08 02:11 pm Link

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Leroy Dickson

Posts: 8239

Flint, Michigan, US

Chris Macan wrote:

D200 = APS-c

Lens = 24-70

Yeah, I skimmed over that.. edited post.

Jun 23 08 02:12 pm Link

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Ken Pegg

Posts: 1858

Weymouth, England, United Kingdom

Is the background in focus?

Jun 23 08 02:12 pm Link

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Chris Macan

Posts: 12978

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

Leroy Dickson wrote:

Yeah, I skimmed over that.. edited post.

I've done the same thing more times that I like to remember.

Jun 23 08 02:13 pm Link

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Mid Sussex Photography

Posts: 49

Haywards Heath, England, United Kingdom

Taking the above posts, I would agree that at f2.8 the lens will be rather softer than stopped down to say f4, this seems true of Sigma lenses and I suffer the same with a 70-200mm model, but to suggest that the D200 would produce a noisy image at iso400 is off the mark I think, I never worry about taking the iso upto 800 and even higher if I plan to run a noise filter over the image in post.

Is the lens quite new for you? If so, then quite likely you have not until now had a chance to use it in anger at f2.8, I always have to stop down at least 2/3 to f3.5, also if using at maximum reach I always need to wind back a few mm to get things sharp.

Jun 23 08 02:14 pm Link

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visual kink

Posts: 233

View Park-Windsor Hills, California, US

martinimages wrote:
Sigma lens..you have to be meticulous about your AF.

Make sure you know where your AF point(s) is/are.

And I program my cam with a hot button for focus.  lets you make SURE you're sharp before you click.  that 'half push' is just a bad idea, IMO.   You're wide open so it's very unforgiving.  And make sure you're holding the cam still...if you're zoomed way in at 160 you could be getting some cam movement that's so slight it looks like OOF.

I think if you bought some better glass you'd see a WORLD of improvement in this.  My Tamron did the same thing.  It holds down my bills on my desk now.  smile

B

Might be time for a new lens.

Jun 23 08 02:15 pm Link

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Leroy Dickson

Posts: 8239

Flint, Michigan, US

Studio 68 wrote:
Might be time for a new lens.

Until then...  try not to bump all the way up to either end of the zoom. Always back off a bit, if you hit the wide or long end and try not to shoot below f/4.

From past experience with some Sigma lenses, that'll make them acceptably sharp most of the time.

Jun 23 08 02:20 pm Link

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Mid Sussex Photography

Posts: 49

Haywards Heath, England, United Kingdom

Might be time for a new lens.

The EX lenses are Sigmas top models, which you'll already know I'm sure, I would make very sure that the benefits of Nikon glass outweigh the extra cost before consigning the Sigma to the scrapyard!

Jun 23 08 02:20 pm Link

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Brian Diaz

Posts: 65617

Danbury, Connecticut, US

Before you blame your equipment and start buying new stuff, just post an image showing what you're experiencing.  It may not be the lens.

To be honest, as with most image problems, it's probably technique.

Jun 23 08 02:37 pm Link

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biwa

Posts: 2594

Pinole, California, US

This is how that whole look started in the 80s. New York big name photog had the same problem, bunch of unfocused shots and they said go with it and they sold the look .  The rest is history.

Jun 23 08 05:12 pm Link

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FKVPhotography

Posts: 30064

Ocala, Florida, US

It could be anyone of the things already mentioned. I did have one other incident with out of focus images not having anything to do with technique, apeture, or brand of lens.

I bumped my lens and one of the elements shifted slightly which produced out of focus images time after time even when they looked ok in the viewfinder. Got a new lens and everything was ok.

Jun 23 08 05:13 pm Link

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glamour pics

Posts: 6095

Los Angeles, California, US

Studio 68 wrote:
I am editing a shoot right now and i have noticed i have a lot of out of focus shots. The camera seemed to be locking the focus. I didn't have n cont. mode. The shots looked sharp in the view finder. What could be the problem?

Equipment - Nikon D200, Sigma EX 28-70 2.8

Ancient Chinese saying: "A photo is worth a thousand words."

I add: "...and a thousand guesses."

Jun 23 08 05:16 pm Link

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LeWhite

Posts: 2038

Los Angeles, California, US

Build an optical bench with a ruler, some match books, a  try pod and a shutter release. Shoot it all different ways, then look at exif. If ya don't find the problem...then its you

Jun 23 08 05:23 pm Link

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Personality Imaging

Posts: 2100

Hoover, Alabama, US

Could be the camera locking focus on the wrong things.  My 5D always locks on the boobs, not the eyes.

Jun 23 08 05:26 pm Link

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Party Through It

Posts: 349

Phoenix, Arizona, US

What is in focus in the photo...if anything?

Jun 23 08 05:27 pm Link

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Vamp Boudoir

Posts: 11446

Florence, South Carolina, US

I used a focal length of 50mm
Subject distance       5 ft

Depth of field
Near limit      4.84 ft
Far limit      5.17 ft
Total      0.33 ft

In front of subject      0.16 ft (48%)
Behind subject      0.17 ft (52%)

Hyperfocal distance      145.2 ft
Circle of confusion      0.02 mm
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focal length 70mm
Subject distance       5 ft

Depth of field
Near limit      4.92 ft
Far limit      5.09 ft
Total      0.17 ft

In front of subject      0.08 ft (49%)
Behind subject      0.09 ft (51%)

Hyperfocal distance      284.4 ft
Circle of confusion      0.02 mm

Jun 23 08 05:37 pm Link