Forums > Off-Topic Discussion > United States Army

Model

safiraangel

Posts: 295

Killeen, Texas, US

Christopher  Marcel wrote:
Wow they let you sign up for only 15 months? I had to sign for 6 to get my MOS. The Air Force is the way to go. My wife is in the Air Force, and they take care of their people, not like the Army, where you will be staying in the desert most of that time. No UCMJ can be taken against you until you get on that plane to basic. Don't believe anyone who tells you different. If you just want the benifits go talk to the AF recruiter. Here's a contracst of how it was when I met my wife:
AF- AC, own room, private bathroom, carpet, double bed, recliner, no formations, and this was all AF issue
Army- Tile floors (need waxing), Intermitint AC (controlled by others ), multi person rooms, shared bathrooms and showers, daily PT and formations.
Just somethings to think about, I could go on but I know people get uninterested.

Lol umm which army are you talking about? I was army signal corp for 6 years my barracks room looked like a small apartment. Carpeted floors, ceiling fans, microwave, large fridge, ac/heat controlled by me for my room, private bathroom, etc etc.  As for daily PT it has a it's own purpose and as much as everyone bitches about it trust me it does good in the long run.

Good luck, my time in the Army changed my life in so many wonderful ways.

Feb 21 06 11:16 pm Link

Photographer

BCG

Posts: 7316

San Antonio, Florida, US

remember that a purple heart is in actuality, a marksmanship badge for the enemy...i wish you strength and courage in your endevours.


FTA!!!...*strikes an Iron Mike pose*

Feb 21 06 11:24 pm Link

Model

Carl Ayers

Posts: 65

Brooklyn, New York, US

HOORAH!!!  Welcome to the U.S. Army family.

So you want to be a forensic psychologist?  I'm a Medical Services officer (I'm completing my M.S. in clinical psychology), so let me give you a few hints.  Being that you're enlisting in the Army rather than going through R.O.T.C. and becoming an officer, consider becoming a Green-to-Gold cadet.  That means that you will go from being an enlisted soldier to a cadet on track to becoming an officer.  The Army MAY pay for your undergraduate degree (in exchange for an extended contract) if you choose this route.  In order to be a psychologist, you're going to need degrees, and to be an Army psychologist, you have to be an officer.

Like everything else in life, the Army is what you make of it.  You can complain about every little thing and let it frustrate you or you can look at it all as lessons to help you build and grow.

Best of luck in BC and AIT.

Feb 21 06 11:31 pm Link

Photographer

Vance C McDaniel

Posts: 7609

Los Angeles, California, US

Devil Dog here,
Sempr Fi!

Welcome to a club very few can understand. You are now about to serve your country in ways most can never understand. No matter your political beliefs at present, they will be changed and reshaped by serving. You will gain insights into politics and TRUE goverment.

I wish you the best, and am very proud you have chosen to walk this line.

Horah!


Keep your eyes open, your nose clean and your heart pure!

And yes, Bush is your new boss, for now.:-)

Feb 21 06 11:32 pm Link

Photographer

R. Olson (RO)

Posts: 971

Seattle, Washington, US

BeccaNDSouth wrote:

That's a bonus...

So you want to be an MP?

She wants to arrest photographers wink

Feb 21 06 11:34 pm Link

Photographer

R. Olson (RO)

Posts: 971

Seattle, Washington, US

Fyre1704 wrote:
Why?

You know what's the good news? He'll be out in 2 years!

Because Recruiters will say things to get you to sign and 98% of the time they are snowing you to get their numbers up. So get everything in writing.

Bottom line everyone, if Fyre wants to join up and get her education paid for. Its her choice and everyones individual views on the military shouldnt impact that choice.

Feb 21 06 11:36 pm Link

Model

Iridal Loveland

Posts: 10

Seattle, Washington, US

Congrats !
we are an army family for 8 years now...there are 2 kinds of people in this world. Military people and Civilian people.  Hopefully you are like us and are military people, cause we enjoy it.  Civilian people arent suited for military life. We are getting ready to move to germany in a few months ! I cant wait !

Feb 21 06 11:37 pm Link

Photographer

BCG

Posts: 7316

San Antonio, Florida, US

always remeber the minumum effective range of your m-16a2

Feb 21 06 11:39 pm Link

Photographer

Christopher Marcel

Posts: 19

Fussa, Tokyo, Japan

safiraangel wrote:

Lol umm which army are you talking about? I was army signal corp for 6 years my barracks room looked like a small apartment. Carpeted floors, ceiling fans, microwave, large fridge, ac/heat controlled by me for my room, private bathroom, etc etc.  As for daily PT it has a it's own purpose and as much as everyone bitches about it trust me it does good in the long run.

Good luck, my time in the Army changed my life in so many wonderful ways.

I guess I was in the wrong Army. I guess the further away from Infrantry you get the better. MPs are right there with the infrantry so chances are you will find a home in the desert.

Feb 21 06 11:46 pm Link

Model

Benilda Devarie

Posts: 35

Panama City, Florida, US

im currently in the military myself (3 yrs in october, woohoo). You're gonna like it smile

Feb 21 06 11:48 pm Link

Photographer

DeBoer Photography

Posts: 782

Melbourne, Florida, US

Fyre1704 wrote:
Yup. I joined it. Now let's start taking bets on how long I stay. WAIT! Does that mean George Bush is my boss now?

Actually, YES, he is your boss.  The President is called the "Commander in Chief" for a reason...


BTW, when Reagan was in office, and I was in the Air Force working as a Public Affairs Specialist, I actually had to PRETEND I was Ronald Reagan as I wrote a letter from the President congratulating our troops on a "Job Well Done" when we raided Libya.  The letter was published in our base newspaper (I was the editor).

And yes, I was given Reagan's signature to put on the letter.  smile

lol

The troops read the letter thinking the President had addressed them directly...and it was really a (then) 20-year old "kid" playing President (it was my job).

I still remember sitting there at my desk pretending to be Reagan...

Feb 22 06 01:18 am Link

Photographer

Armand Sanchez

Posts: 12

Okinawa, Okinawa, Japan

Awe, That's a shame you joined the army smile

I joined the Marine Corps, Aug. 28th.

I ship off in June.


& good luck with that!...hope it goes well for you! smile

Feb 22 06 02:04 am Link

Photographer

studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Fyre1704 wrote:
I'm just signing for 15 months though. Just in case if I don't like it, I don't have to stay for like 4-6 years. And if I do like what I do in it, I can re-enlist for a longer period of time.

No prior service? 15 months only? ROTFLMAO.......... if you believe that you are already f**ked! Did they tell you about the yachts, golf courses and condos too?

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joiningu … uiter4.htm

"Enlistment Periods. Thought you were enlisting for four years? Think again. It may surprise you to learn that ALL enlistments in the United States Military incurs a total eight year service obligation. Yep. When you sign that enlistment contract, you are obligating yourself to the military for a total of eight years. Whatever time is not spent on active duty, or in the active Guard/Reserves (if you enlisted in the Guard/Reserves) must be spent in the inactive reserves.

Paragraph 10a of the enlistment contract states:

a. FOR ALL ENLISTEES: If this is my initial enlistment, I must serve a total of eight (8) years. Any part of that service not served on active duty must be served in a Reserve Component unless I am sooner discharged.
"

------------

other notes:

"...Up until October 2003, the Army and Navy were the only services that offered active duty enlistments for periods of less than four years.  However, as part of the FY 2003 Military Appropriations Act, Congress passed the National Call To Service Plan, which mandated that all of the services create an enlistment program which offered a two year active duty enlistment option, followed by four years in the Active Guard/Reserves, followed by two years in the Inactive Reserves (still the total eight year service commitment). [break in text]

However, let's talk reality -- While Congress mandated this plan, they gave the services wide lattitude in implementation. The Army and Navy already had two year active duty enlistment plans that they were happy with. However, because of enlistment shortages, the Army has dramatically expanded slots under this program in 2005.[break in text]

The Army and the Navy are the only services which have active duty enlistment options of less than four years, which are not part of the National Call to Service program. The Army offers enlistment contracts of two years, three years, four years, five years, and six years. Only a few Army jobs are available for two and three year enlistees (mainly those jobs that don't require much training time, and that the Army is having a hard time getting enough recruits). Most Army jobs require a minimum enlistment period of four years, and some Army jobs require a minimum enlistment period of five years...."

-------------

You must not be talking about THE Army.

Studio36
ex: USAF
ex: USA[rmy]R[eserve]

By any chance does your recruiter resemble this fellow?
https://www.studio36.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Mutley_laughing.gif

Feb 22 06 08:48 am Link

Photographer

Dreams To Keep

Posts: 585

Novi, Michigan, US

Jack Curtis wrote:
Well God bless you, and thank you, young lady for your service to our country.
Let me share a little experience with you. To the chagrin of the photographers out there I'd advise you belay any nude shoots until after your tour is up. A long time ago we worked with an active duty model who did a very classy topless pinup shoot, and ended up facing a courts martial when she showed it to another Private, who ended up showing it to her CO. We lost touch with her so I never heard how that all turned out, but just the idea that she had to go through all that over a PG-13 photograph is pretty freaky. It seems that after that hand goes up your body and the display thereof is the property of the US Army. Just thought I'd share that experience with you.

But after your discharged......call us! :-)

Good advice!  The military court system is harsh and even if you don't get into legal trouble, your fellow troops would make your life miserable.

Feb 22 06 09:19 am Link

Photographer

Dreams To Keep

Posts: 585

Novi, Michigan, US

MarkMarek wrote:

Why does an average American join the army? Becasue this way you can murder people and get away with it. It's as simple as that. You can also take cool party pictures of yourself abusing naked prisoner - doesn't it sound like fun?

Mr. Marek, you are indeed an asshole.

Feb 22 06 09:20 am Link

Photographer

bencook2

Posts: 3875

Tucson, Arizona, US

MarkMarek wrote:

If that is true then Usama must be a hero.

I love that this thread went as far as it did mostly ignoring you comments.

Feb 22 06 10:04 am Link

Model

Jen Andrews

Posts: 46

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

I wish is was in your unit Christopher Marcel when I was in because I did share a room and a bathroom had to buy my own microwave.  Where you an officer??

Feb 22 06 12:50 pm Link

Model

Peggy Weidner

Posts: 124

Denton, Georgia, US

I wish you luck! smile

My dad was in the Army,a paratrooper,he was in the Vietnam war, he sadly passed away in Feb. 1999.

Feb 22 06 01:33 pm Link

Photographer

FYH Photo

Posts: 462

Santa Clara, California, US

Dreams To Keep wrote:
Mr. Marek, you are indeed an asshole.

Thank you Dreams to Keep! smile

Back on to topic, good luck Fyre1704!  I'm fascinated by your interested in Forensics Psychology.  It can be a great experience, and like any job anywhere, how much you like and enjoy it can be determined by where you are stationed and who your immediate superiors are.  I agree that being sent to Hawaii or perhaps Europe will be uber cool.  My buddy just came back from Germany with the 4th ID.  I think he sampled every beer they make over there and he's of the opinion that their beer is much better than ours .....

Also being that your focus is SCIENCE and data collection/analysis related, you probably won't be sent to any 'hot zone' and even then you'll be relegated to being a FOBBIT, so you shouldn't sweat it.    Good luck!  Let us know how it goes.

Feb 27 06 01:17 pm Link

Model

AmieS

Posts: 438

Dallas, Texas, US

Best of luck~ since the chances of going to iraq are about 70% right now...I spent 4 yrs in ....and yea Bush is like your big boss!..dont ever get caught saying bad shit about him..trust me...i know ppl that did and they got into deep shit especiallyy with the terrorisem now they look at anyone that dont like him.
What is your MOS? i was a 88H Cargo Specialest...


Like i said good luck and be safe! It will change your life i promise!

Feb 27 06 01:37 pm Link

Photographer

Vegas Alien

Posts: 1747

Armington, Illinois, US

Bush is not your "boss". He is the Commander in Chief of all US forces. just as our CEO, who is in charge of the whole company is not my boss. You "boss" would be the first in your chain of command.  For the first few months, a drill sergeant will own your ass. DO NOT call an Army Sergeant sir, by the way, unless you really enjoy doing push-ups.

Don't fret, though.  They've really softened up the Army training since I was in.

Thanks for serving, whatever you may do.

Feb 27 06 01:43 pm Link