Lee-Bonaventure1 wrote:
His churches are empty, they have no priests, and they're closing up churches right and left, selling off property to pay for you know what.

Last week his main concern was naming a bunch of new Cardinals. Today he of all people (considering the bloody bloody history of the Church) said that God will punish people who kill in his name.

Do you look at him as a respectable leader and Christ-like figure?

You are comparing Christ to the Pope,  One Christ...

That's like comparing Gary Colemen To Emanuel Lewis....

Lens N Light wrote:
I respect anyone who has risen to the very pinacle of his/her profession.

Does this include Pablo Escobar?

BCG wrote:
the last one i respected...he knew humility...this one is a fucking nazi...*sorry to the catholics that this may offend*

Im catholic and not offended lil green frog

I just consider the source in comment

Plus after reading some of your tags, it is easy to see whos problem Minded and who needs to blow smoke in distractions.

I have more sense and respect for most then to look at fault and run others down

I believe many of those lawsuits were fabricated for profit.

churches will never close or end.

Sincerely
Ron Blake

Ron B Blake wrote:

Im catholic and not offended lil green frog

I just consider the source in comment

Plus after reading some of your tags, it is easy to see whos problem Minded and who needs to blow smoke in distractions.

I have more sense and respect for most then to look at fault and run others down

I believe many of those lawsuits were fabricated for profit.

churches will never close or end.

Sincerely
Ron Blake

the church is SUPPOSE to be a hospital for the sinners, not a musuem for the "saints"...all the good the catholic church does, and it did bring and teach the masses to read the Word, are clouded by the actions and politics of rome...it is a fact that this pope WAS a nazi...to make the dude a pope was wrong.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/Ratzinger.html wrote:
When Ratzinger turned 14 in 1941, as required by law he joined the Hitler Youth. According to his biographer John Allen he was not an enthusiastic member. He requested to be taken off the rolls and reportedly refused to attend a single meeting.

In 1943, at the age of 16, Ratzinger was, along with the rest of his class, drafted into the Flak or anti-aircraft corps, responsible for the guarding of a BMW plant outside Munich. He was then sent for basic infantry training and was posted to Hungary, where he worked setting up anti-tank defences until deserting in April 1944.

One might fairly criticize Pope Benedict/Catholic teaching on many grounds but what was going on in his country when he was a youth is not really one of them.

Lee-Bonaventure1 wrote:
Hey, but infallible or not, it seems bizarre to see a pope visiting South America, praising the Catholics there for not using "artificial" birth control.

Why is it bizarre to see the Pope promoting Catholic teaching? Or is it just Catholism, rather than the Pope, that you don't like? Catholic teaching also seems to be gaining popularity in the US among non-Catholics with pharmacists refusing to dispense the pill on the grounds that its a form of abortion and the US government supporting abstinence-only education in schools.

BCG wrote:

the church is SUPPOSE to be a hospital for the sinners, not a musuem for the "saints"...all the good the catholic church does, and it did bring and teach the masses to read the Word, are clouded by the actions and politics of rome...it is a fact that this pope WAS a nazi...to make the dude a pope was wrong.

Nooo, the pope was NOT a nazi he was growing up in WWII what he was taught and where he was sent was not in his control.
  And no I'm not Catholic im just a nice Jewish girls who knows her facts.

Lens N Light wrote:
I respect anyone who has risen to the very pinacle of his/her profession.

Hmm... would that include are current president?

SarahSVET wrote:

Nooo, the pope was NOT a nazi he was growing up in WWII what he was taught and where he was sent was not in his control.
  And no I'm not Catholic im just a nice Jewish girls who knows her facts.

Sarah you are oh so correct!!!

Most here open there mouth and don't have a clue about the facts!

The are just looking for someone to play with, some attention.

M

SarahSVET wrote:

Nooo, the pope was NOT a nazi he was growing up in WWII what he was taught and where he was sent was not in his control.
  And no I'm not Catholic im just a nice Jewish girls who knows her facts.

he is a product of the era...i am offended by his failure to condem the terroristic bombings in isreal...he scares me...the last pope was one of the greatest minds of this century.

UnoMundo Photography wrote:
Lee:

What is it about someonelse's religion that bugs people?

There are Catholic, Baptists, Lutherans.......
If you are not Catholic the Pope should not bother you!

If you are not Buddhists, their beliefs should not bother you!

Tell me which is your belief so that I can find the faults in your creed; this is the cause of world conflicts.

Very well spoken and a very good question.

Let me think about the "why does it bug people" question. (In many cases, it certainly can't be based on logic.) 

To give you something to find fault with ...last week the guest minister at my church wore a button on his overcoat that said, "If God is on your side, you are dangerous as hell!"

I think when a religion teaches "have as many children as you possibly can"  it does have an impact on everyone, even those of another persuasion. If you say "hey, the Church doesn't teach that"  just listen to Catholic radio, the Voice of Catholicism today.

That message will be believed most of all by those who are uneducated, unsophisticated, superstitious, and culturally macho.  That seems really cruel to me, and it does bother me.

But that is not as gruesome as religions that teach that we should kill infidels, Jews, witches, gay men, Muslims, Romani, and Hindus.

Those of us who are bugged by the bad fruits of false prophets  (Jesus said that's how we can tell the differenct)... fruits which lead to hatred, killing, wars...we are just voices in the wilderness.  The only chance we have is this forum on ModelMayhem.

QuaeVide wrote:

Why is it bizarre to see the Pope promoting Catholic teaching? Or is it just Catholism, rather than the Pope, that you don't like? Catholic teaching also seems to be gaining popularity in the US among non-Catholics with pharmacists refusing to dispense the pill on the grounds that its a form of abortion and the US government supporting abstinence-only education in schools.

It is interesting to see a head of a huge corporation, or a government, or anyone who is heading up a aparat that is really in trouble.  Anyone from the outside can see that he is avoiding the big issues.  The city is burning, where is my fiddle ?   He could do something major and change lives for the better...instead he's screwing around making cardinals, getting people on the road to sainthood, and issuing proclamations.

My churches are empty, we have no priests...and the Pope is jumping the shark.  Whether it be a powerful church, or Exxon-Mobil Corporation, it's something to watch.

I think the current administration is deeply influenced and panders to the Christian fundamentalist block in the country.  Interestingly, they don't even consider Roman Catholics as Christians, because of the practice of the adoration of Mary and the saints.

Lee-Bonaventure1 wrote:
It is interesting to see a head of a huge corporation, or a government, or anyone who is heading up a aparat that is really in trouble.  Anyone from the outside can see that he is avoiding the big issues.  The city is burning, where is my fiddle ?   He could do something major and change lives for the better...instead he's screwing around making cardinals, getting people on the road to sainthood, and issuing proclamations.

These may be major issues in the US church and perhaps in western Europe but the world is a bigger place than that. Just because he has different priorities from you doesn't mean he isn't deserving of respect. But to be more constructive, what would you do to improve the Catholic church in the US?

QuaeVide wrote:
[ But to be more constructive, what would you do to improve the Catholic church in the US?

I suppose any major changes would result in more splintering of the Church.  I heard of Catholics who split when the Latin Mass was discontinued.

There surely have been unintended results to the male only, single man priest requirement.  Changing that would be an improvement. (Other than perhaps 1/3 of the believers bolting...)

The Catholic Mass is very static.  I hardly know any Catholics who attend, especially the way the faithful did in the 1950-60's. Maybe that needs to be addressed to deliver a message at Sunday Mass that engages those present more in their day to day life. The mystical and ritualistic goings on don't make it with those sitting at home, though they still think of themselves as Catholics.

I don't think naming new saints or aplogizing to Gallileo will improve the church in America.

Select Models wrote:
This is seriously one fucked up religion.  The high priests (those few who havent been convicted of alter boy molestation)

The frequency of abusers among priests is probably not higher than among ministers of other religions, teachers, doctors or the male population at large. Hard to be definite though because the data are subject to many unknowns. Abuse by anyone is a position of authority is problematic though because of the possibility that it will continue unchecked.

in the Vatican waits until one of their own starts to mumble incoherantly with advanced stages of Parkinsons and Alzheimers, then they toss him in line to be the next Pope.

I'm in favour of euthanasia at 60. Should bring down house prices.

Infants have actually drowned (with most being traumatized) while being baptized,

I've never heard of a baby drowning during baptism, though I guess it is possible. I have heard of babies being killed in cars being driven by their mothers though. And what evidence do you have of trauma? That they sometimes cry?

priests talk major shit about you behind your back once you've revealed your sins in the confession booth

If they do, it's a major sin. I sincerely doubt it happens with any kind of significant frequency.

and if you're an alter boy, I wouldnt recommend bending over to pickup that kneeling pillow...

And if you're a female model, I wouldn't recommend disrobing in front of any guy over 50 - horny old gits, the lot of them.

Do you have anything to back up your defamation? To me, it just looks like rank prejudice.

William Coleman wrote:
No, I respect the Pope in Albuquerque.

LOL Damn you! I was going say Nebraska.  But I think the Looney Tunes background makes Albuquerque more funny. 

Steal my line AND make it funnier?!  Damn you again man!

Merlinpix wrote:

Hmm... would that include are current president?

sure. he's the undisputed capo di tutti capi.