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American Glamour
Posts: 38813
Detroit, Michigan, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
I don't see much difference between 'producing hardcore themselves' and investing over one hundred million dollars into a company that 'produces' it for them. I don't disagree with that in the least. People do need to understand though that it isn't happening at Playboy Studios. On the other hand,, Playboy TV has clearly gone hardcore and you are right, they do own a big piece of several of the companies that produce for them.
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Doug Dimler
Posts: 42
Tampa, Florida, US
People she just simply asked two questions. Answer then and move on. It's not up to anyone but herself to determine whether she's ready or not. Plus she did ask anyone if they think she is ready for that.
My thinking is that you should ask the photographer what is expected from you in this shoot. He will think you are more professional doing that then show up and ask the question during the shoot.
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Tina Berry
Posts: 326
Lake San Marcos, California, US
This forum post carried on a lot longer than I thought it would. To anyone who was concerned about me not being ready for nudes... don't worry, I'm a big kid and I can handle myself.
Check my page in a few days and I'll likely have nude pictures up.
Thank you to everyone who gave input! I had tried googling and comparing Playboy to Penthouse and was having difficulty differentiating the two, but I feel like I have a much more clear perception now. :>
Tina Berry
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Paul Ferris
Posts: 3625
New York, New York, US
FKVPhotoGraphics wrote:
The promoter makes out like a bandit, the models get barely anything except a few bucks and the promise of some prints for their ports and the GWCs go home thinking they are the best thing since sliced bread with nudie shots to show their non GWC buddies at the local tavern. Hey Frank. What do you say we go compare shots down at the tavern!?
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Wayne Cutler
Posts: 640
Los Angeles, California, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Having shot for both magazines for many years, I'd like to point out that there have been some major changes in the last 3 years.
Playboy now shows more pink than Penthouse.
Penthouse has become more tame than most adult magazines while Playboy has become more explicit.
Just go to the magazine stands and compare both . . . you will be surprised.
Penthouse is not what you remember from years ago.
KM I was going to tell you to ask Ken Marcus. He not only shot for both, but he was probably the best photographer in the history of Playboy and when he shot for Penthouse, he was Penthouse's best photographer. Yes, better than Earl Miller or Suze Randall or any other photographer at both publications. In fact, Ken Marcus, photographs women like no other photographer I have seen. What Ken Marcus tells you on this subject, you better listen. Now for my two cents, I think you're not really ready at this time to pose for either publication.
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Odin Photo
Posts: 1462
Salt Lake City, Utah, US
Tina Berry wrote:
instead of sounding inexperienced to the person who contacted me about it... I was going to ask the forum so I could have a better understanding of what I was getting myself into... You can always get into the nitty gritty details of a shoot. Forget about sounding inexperienced. To not ask about something you don't understand IS inexperienced. That is much worse than sounding that way. Any photographer should be willing to tell you exactly what the shoot entails. If they are not, that says something right there.
P.S. No one here can tell you based on any knowledge of Penthouse or Playboy what is going to be expected. That was verbiage used by the person requesting that you shoot and they are the only one who knows what they meant. They may not even be that familiar with either publication.
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Asia Abendroth
Posts: 370
Denver, Colorado, US
My best friend did Penthouse. It's open-leg pink shots. Unless they've changed it recently? Isn't there a new owner or something? I don't know. I've seen some open leg in Playboy, but not in a way that's meant to direct your attention right there to the money (like in Penthouse or Hustler). Anyway, I would assume open-leg pink shots. Good luck!
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Asia Abendroth
Posts: 370
Denver, Colorado, US
Oh, and make sure you're clear on your limits. If you don't want to use your hands or toys, make sure the photographer knows it. Be clear. That way you don't get yourself into an uncomfortable situation. Be careful! =]
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J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE
Posts: 2691
Los Angeles, California, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Having shot for both magazines for many years, I'd like to point out that there have been some major changes in the last 3 years.
Playboy now shows more pink than Penthouse.
Penthouse has become more tame than most adult magazines while Playboy has become more explicit.
Just go to the magazine stands and compare both . . . you will be surprised.
Penthouse is not what you remember from years ago.
KM Really??? I thought that Penthouse went back to "open leg" format just recently???
If they keep changing formats like this, I swear - my balls will start bleeding!!!
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J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE
Posts: 2691
Los Angeles, California, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Having shot for both magazines for many years, I'd like to point out that there have been some major changes in the last 3 years.
Playboy now shows more pink than Penthouse.
Penthouse has become more tame than most adult magazines while Playboy has become more explicit.
Just go to the magazine stands and compare both . . . you will be surprised.
Penthouse is not what you remember from years ago.
KM J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE wrote:
Really??? I thought that Penthouse went back to "open leg" format just recently???
If they keep changing formats like this, I swear - my balls will start bleeding!!! IT IS CONFIRMED . . .
I bought this month's issue (and a previous month's issue sans cover) of Penthouse from a newsstand . . . the pictorials are "open leg" . . . OH JOY!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abcgpn2UTV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Fl7uCa-74
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Michael Scorr
Posts: 309
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Tina Berry wrote:
Because it's a 3 model, 15 photographer kind of deal... and instead of sounding inexperienced to the person who contacted me about it... I was going to ask the forum so I could have a better understanding of what I was getting myself into... but I think it will end in me asking the person who contacted me because there are a lot of mixed (though still helpful) ideas about Penthouse style nudes. Smart Girl, is'nt this what foroums are about, so we can all learn and develope off each other?? Tough I would suggest asking the photographer for the finer details, I'm sure he/she will be fine with the question.. You gotta set down the ground rules!
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John Edward
Posts: 2462
Dallas, Texas, US
"Truth probably is that when some random guy says "Penthouse style" (regardless of what Penthouse actually publishes today), he will expect you to put a flashlight down your throat for backlight while he shoots the cover for "Gynecology Today".
Oh I so dislike these vague replies, is it incandescant, halogen, or LED, and if so, exactly how many LEDs is this flashlight? Just tell us the Candlepower!
.About the backlight, rather than be anal, lets not even go there.
Back on topic, if you have no underpants on, and fifteen guys with telephoto lenses that can tell if the strings are frayed on a football, a football field away.
Are taking pictures of you from fifteen different angles at fifteen different times, every fifteen seconds for fifteen different reasons.
Regardless of your Confidencence, which by the way I admire.
It does not matter how you pose, or how far your knees seem like distant neighbors.
In the words of one of my favorite models.
They are gonna take Poster sized pics, of "Your Downstairs, Girlie Business."
If you're kewl with that fine, just make sure all your releases use a Stage name, or it may affect your job opportunities in the future.
Jest my 2 friggin cents
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John Edward
Posts: 2462
Dallas, Texas, US
P.S and you can give up any idea of ever running for vice president
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Jared Holder
Posts: 1608
Speightstown, Saint Peter, Barbados
Tina Berry wrote:
Because it's a 3 model, 15 photographer kind of deal... and instead of sounding inexperienced to the person who contacted me about it... I was going to ask the forum so I could have a better understanding of what I was getting myself into... but I think it will end in me asking the person who contacted me because there are a lot of mixed (though still helpful) ideas about Penthouse style nudes. Yes.
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Codis Inc
Posts: 585
Los Angeles, California, US
How can I get invited to this gangbang?
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Aaron Pawlak
Posts: 2850
New York, New York, US
Tina Berry wrote:
I have a potential modeling gig later this month for "up to Penthouse style nudes" and I'm just wondering what that entails. I understand that Playboy nudes are considered soft-porn, generally closed legs. What can I expect if I were to take this job?
Thank you! I apologize if this is a repeat subject.
Tina Berry Ask the one who used the words "up to Penthouse style nudes" what he means by that.
I'll tell you why;
~ up through the 1970s Penthouse was very similar to Playboy in explicitness (fully nude, sexually suggestive, no "pink", SOFTCORE).
~ Through the 80s and early 90s it had Hustler level explicitness (fully nude, full "female masturbation", spread open pink and cheeks, HARDCORE).
~ In 1997, Penthouse went even more hardcore than anything than had ever been in a major magazine (full on sex and oral sex, penetration, piss, simulated blood, bondage with penetration, EXTREMELY HARDCORE).
~ Around 2004, Penthouse publisher Bob Guccione lost control of the publishing of his own magazine (lost sales due to internet competition), and the investors took over. It went back to a SOFTCORE level of nudity. A total turnaround back to being even less explicit than in the 70s.
Ask the job offerer how hardcore the job would be, because it's the only way to know exactly what he has in mind....
He probably means the 80s Penthouse level nudity, but you gotta ask him...
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Marty McBride
Posts: 3142
Owensboro, Kentucky, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Having shot for both magazines for many years, I'd like to point out that there have been some major changes in the last 3 years.
Playboy now shows more pink than Penthouse.
Penthouse has become more tame than most adult magazines while Playboy has become more explicit.
Just go to the magazine stands and compare both . . . you will be surprised.
Penthouse is not what you remember from years ago.
KM your right...but the last Penthouse magazine i saw had a girl sitting on a wine bottle, fat end first!!! lol
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Stephen E Morton
Posts: 581
White Plains, New York, US
Marty McBride wrote:
your right...but the last Penthouse magazine i saw had a girl sitting on a wine bottle, fat end first!!! lol Both of you are right, but I think what Penthouse is doing is "popping the cork" too keep you off balanced LOL
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norm la coe photography
Posts: 2062
Naples, Florida, US
OK, now, tina, what did you decide, and if you did the shoot, how did it turn out? norm
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NYB
Posts: 851
Albany, New York, US
Penthouse photos are gynecological while Playboy doesn't have the closeups!
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Holix
Posts: 855
Los Angeles, California, US
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Having shot for both magazines for many years, I'd like to point out that there have been some major changes in the last 3 years.
Playboy now shows more pink than Penthouse.
Penthouse has become more tame than most adult magazines while Playboy has become more explicit.
Just go to the magazine stands and compare both . . . you will be surprised.
Penthouse is not what you remember from years ago.
KM That's a shame!
I always preferred Penthouse over Playboy!
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J C ModeFotografie
Posts: 14718
Los Angeles, California, US
Aaron Pawlak wrote:
Tina Berry wrote:
I have a potential modeling gig later this month for "up to Penthouse style nudes" and I'm just wondering what that entails. I understand that Playboy nudes are considered soft-porn, generally closed legs. What can I expect if I were to take this job?
Thank you! I apologize if this is a repeat subject.
Tina Berry Ask the one who used the words "up to Penthouse style nudes" what he means by that.
I'll tell you why;
~ up through the 1970s Penthouse was very similar to Playboy in explicitness (fully nude, sexually suggestive, no "pink", SOFTCORE).
~ Through the 80s and early 90s it had Hustler level explicitness (fully nude, full "female masturbation", spread open pink and cheeks, HARDCORE).
~ In 1997, Penthouse went even more hardcore than anything than had ever been in a major magazine (full on sex and oral sex, penetration, piss, simulated blood, bondage with penetration, EXTREMELY HARDCORE).
~ Around 2004, Penthouse publisher Bob Guccione lost control of the publishing of his own magazine (lost sales due to internet competition), and the investors took over. It went back to a SOFTCORE level of nudity. A total turnaround back to being even less explicit than in the 70s.
Ask the job offerer how hardcore the job would be, because it's the only way to know exactly what he has in mind....
He probably means the 80s Penthouse level nudity, but you gotta ask him... Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Having shot for both magazines for many years, I'd like to point out that there have been some major changes in the last 3 years.
Playboy now shows more pink than Penthouse.
Penthouse has become more tame than most adult magazines while Playboy has become more explicit.
Just go to the magazine stands and compare both . . . you will be surprised.
Penthouse is not what you remember from years ago.
KM Holix wrote:
That's a shame!
I always preferred Penthouse over Playboy! You guys are just going to ignore my post, aren't you???
J C KUNSTFOTOGRAFIE wrote:
Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Having shot for both magazines for many years, I'd like to point out that there have been some major changes in the last 3 years.
Playboy now shows more pink than Penthouse.
Penthouse has become more tame than most adult magazines while Playboy has become more explicit.
Just go to the magazine stands and compare both . . . you will be surprised.
Penthouse is not what you remember from years ago.
KM IT IS CONFIRMED . . .
I bought this month's issue (and a previous month's issue sans cover) of Penthouse from a newsstand . . . the pictorials are "open leg" . . . OH JOY!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abcgpn2UTV8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Fl7uCa-74
Model
Amber Justine
Posts: 113
York, Pennsylvania, US
I have a Penthouse from a year ago that shows pink, masturbation, toy use, girl/girl, and just straight up sex. I got an offer from Hustler but turned it down because I didn't want to go too much further than playboy style.
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C h a r l e s D
Posts: 9312
Los Angeles, California, US
Penthouse style, you're going to be inserting things into your vagina. Pretty darn sure about that one.
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C h a r l e s D
Posts: 9312
Los Angeles, California, US
Imageri by Tim Davis wrote:
Dear your not ready. The old Penthouse had penetration, boys, girls, toys, they also were famous for urination.They have since changed their ways but they are still a bit harder than you've shown on your profile. Very true. Penthouse is solely responsible for my fetish.
Model
-Terrace-
Posts: 1322
Knoxville, Tennessee, US
Tina Berry wrote:
What makes me so unready?
I have sex.
I have pictures taken of me.
You combine the two. Not necessarily having sex, but being nude.
What would I need to be ready for? you said earlier it s 3 girl, 15 photog kind of shoot....
so my answer to "what would you need to be ready for..."
the 15 dudes holding cameras, that i imagine paid for a "workshop" which translates into "paid to see nekkid chicks huh huh huh, stuffing themselves with things.." *shivers*
just being blunt and honest. if it's attention you are looking for...go ahead, have fun with that. But my vote is, dont do it, show some class and keep doing what your doing, you are beautiful.
~T
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chiWINphoto
Posts: 217
Glen Ellyn, Illinois, US
Tina Berry wrote:
it's a 3 model, 15 photographer kind of deal... Were can I sign up for this workshop? 
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AusModels
Posts: 298
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tina Berry wrote:
and instead of sounding inexperienced to the person who contacted me about it... I was going to ask the forum so I could have a better understanding of what I was getting myself into... but I think it will end in me asking the person who contacted me because there are a lot of mixed (though still helpful) ideas about Penthouse style nudes. Don't worry about sounding inexperienced, ask.  Playboy style is generally full frontal with no spreading and it's almost an industry standard. Playboy have shifted the goalposts a bit recently, but most people still understand what playboy style means. (Except of course, those who want to take advantage).
You've got the right idea, I think. As you can see there are a great many definitions coming up and asking what the Photographer means is prudent. (Not asking would sound more inexperienced). Penthouse style is not generally used to define a style, so it could mean anything.
Good luck.
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Kelvin Hammond
Posts: 17397
Billings, Montana, US
I'd say this topic is subjective. I didn't see anywhere that this shoot was for Penthouse, just that it was to be shot 'Penthouse style".
What that says to me is that the photographer(s) want it to be more then what you'd expect to see in a Playboy (though I duly note what Ken Markus said with respect to current content in the magazines respectively). In other words, they'd like an 'anything goes' environment on this shoot.
I don't see a problem with that unless you have reservations or restrictions about such content. In the OP's posts, she seems to be excited by the idea more then she is reserved, so why not?
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Playboy style is generally full frontal with no spreading and it's almost an industry standard. Playboy have shifted the goalposts a bit recently, but most people still understand what playboy style means. (Except of course, those who want to take advantage).