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BCG
Posts: 7316
San Antonio, Florida, US
eating disorders...sexual decadance and rampant drug abuse...are we all to blame for allowing or passively participating???...i recall the passing of Letticia Lynn Blake...her passing was glossed over by many...was this out of guilt???...i have been place in a situation with a model using heroin while on a shoot...the shoot was stopped...while she did seek help, she relapsed a few times, but has now been clean for over a year.
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Diane ly
Posts: 1068
Manhattan, Illinois, US
Ya gotta love it! 
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Susi
Posts: 3083
Atlanta, Georgia, US
You had me at sexual decadence;-)
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Just AJ
Posts: 3478
Round Rock, Texas, US
*picks up megaphone*
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Mr. Common Sense.
Mr. Sense had been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm, and that life isn't always fair. Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn) and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not kids, are in charge).
His health began to rapidly deteriorate when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate, teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch, and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student only worsened his condition.
Mr. Sense declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer aspirin to a student, but could not inform the parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
Finally, Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband, churches became businesses, and criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense finally gave up the ghost after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot, then she spilled a bit in her lap and was awarded a huge financial settlement.
Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.
He is survived by two stepbrothers: My Rights and Ima Whiner.
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.
*puts down megaphone, hangs head for about 60 seconds*
Ok. Back to work!
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Beatbox Jeebus v2
Posts: 10046
Palatine, Illinois, US
Jayne Jones wrote:
*picks up megaphone*
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Mr. Common Sense.
Mr. Sense had been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm, and that life isn't always fair. Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn) and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not kids, are in charge).
His health began to rapidly deteriorate when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate, teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch, and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student only worsened his condition.
Mr. Sense declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer aspirin to a student, but could not inform the parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
Finally, Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband, churches became businesses, and criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense finally gave up the ghost after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot, then she spilled a bit in her lap and was awarded a huge financial settlement.
Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.
He is survived by two stepbrothers: My Rights and Ima Whiner.
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.
*puts down megaphone, hangs head for about 60 seconds*
Ok. Back to work! Hahahaha got to love it.
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Dreams To Keep
Posts: 585
Novi, Michigan, US
Susi wrote:
You had me at sexual decadence;-) You naughty, naughty grrl!
Go to your room immediately!
Better yet, go to my room and knock three times.. (That's a Groucho Marx thing).
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BCG
Posts: 7316
San Antonio, Florida, US
Diana Moffitt wrote:
Ya gotta love it! i am going out on a limb and saying this...but i would wager, that all things factored, that the death toll in the beauty industry surpasses the death toll on the war on terror.
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byReno
Posts: 1034
Arlington Heights, Illinois, US
Iâve seen a documentary on super models once. I think it was called âBeyond skin deepâ? or something like that. Basically every super model from the early 60âs on up spiraled into the world of sex and drugs. Either as a stepping stone to make things happen or as fame and celebrity status took hold, a rock & roll lifestyle ensues. Some recovered, some go over the edge, all indulged. Such is the life of the rich and famous. It is no different in the movie industry.
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BCG
Posts: 7316
San Antonio, Florida, US
byReno wrote:
Iâve seen a documentary on super models once. I think it was called âBeyond skin deepâ? or something like that. Basically every super model from the early 60âs on up spiraled into the world of sex and drugs. Either as a stepping stone to make things happen or as fame and celebrity status took hold, a rock & roll lifestyle ensues. Some recovered, some go over the edge, all indulged. Such is the life of the rich and famous. It is no different in the movie industry. does that not then make us accomplices???
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byReno
Posts: 1034
Arlington Heights, Illinois, US
BCG wrote:
does that not then make us accomplices??? Maybe. If âUsâ? are the movers and shakers. As far as me, well I did lot of partying in the early 70âs, not with any super models though. 
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Mike Mancuso
Posts: 94
Harleysville, Pennsylvania, US
BCG wrote:
does that not then make us accomplices??? I dont believe it does. We are given the free will to make the right and wrong decisions, if we choose to make the wrong ones we cannot blame anyone but the person in the mirror.
We all know as human beings drugs are bad, yet some still choose to do them. We know Heroin is THE most addictive drugs, we know it kills people on a daily basis, yet people who have never done the drug before still do it everyday, they know the consequences. They can't blame anyone else, there is no gun to these people's heads saying inject or I'll pull the trigger.
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MarkMarek
Posts: 2211
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Our ugly industry? What's ugly about having naked chicks around you all the time?
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James Berglie
Posts: 102
Nottingham, Maryland, US
BCG wrote:
eating disorders...sexual decadance and rampant drug abuse...are we all to blame for allowing or passively participating???...i recall the passing of Letticia Lynn Blake...her passing was glossed over by many...was this out of guilt???...i have been place in a situation with a model using heroin while on a shoot...the shoot was stopped...while she did seek help, she relapsed a few times, but has now been clean for over a year. the girls gotta do what they gotta do to stay thin. -- its their choice. -- personally, Im enthralled by the fashion industry, and the fashion world.
-- they can take responsiblity for their own actions... and Ill take responsiblity for mine.
in the mean time... keep em thin!
-- yes, Im a heartless bastard... spare me the lectures.
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MelissaBaker
Posts: 1237
New York, New York, US
James,
We've talked before about my daughter shooting with you so I know you have a wife that you say how much you love but I'll assume no kids-especially a daughter? All I could think about your response is wow... I guess thats how the majority goes through most of life, the easy way and just going along with the crowd. Thats how things have became the way they are in this world. Nice message for the young girls....Spare you a lecture? Wont even begin to give you one, your a grown man.
For all the young girls out there trying to become a model and reaching your dreams this is a brutal business and those attitudes are exactly what you will come in contact with alot. What you do about it is your choice though.You have to be strong and draw a line that YOU put of where you cross and dont.Yes,it's true you have to be unbelievably thin.Drugs is NOT the only way to get to that size though.You can do it in a healthy way but it will take more time and effort than you can imagine.HARD WORK... ALOT of hard work, but it can be done and you dont have to loose yourself in the process of reaching your dream. If your afraid of hard work, your in the wrong business anyway. Being a good model is alot of hard work every single day so your prepared for the next paying client.
Just a crazy thought, but instead of getting a drug dealer why not a good trainer and nutritionist? Someday all the photo shoots, campaigns and ads all come to an end. If you like what you see in the mirror when its all over, then you REALLY WERE successful.
by Becky Baker
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BCG
Posts: 7316
San Antonio, Florida, US
James Berglie wrote:
the girls gotta do what they gotta do to stay thin. -- its their choice. -- personally, Im enthralled by the fashion industry, and the fashion world.
-- they can take responsiblity for their own actions... and Ill take responsiblity for mine.
in the mean time... keep em thin!
-- yes, Im a heartless bastard... spare me the lectures. i will spare you the lectures...but along lifes road, you will need someone to spare you the compassion that you yourself chose not to show...and you will cry like a little girl on that day.
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S
Posts: 21678
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US
BCG wrote:
...are we all to blame for allowing or passively participating??? Nope. I don't shoot traditionally pretty women. My girls are plump, or fat, or tattooed, or mohawked, or older, etc. I might be responsible for presenting folks who are outside the mainstream in a beautiful light, though.
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54196
Buena Park, California, US
Jayne Jones wrote:
*picks up megaphone*
Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Mr. Common Sense.
Mr. Sense had been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm, and that life isn't always fair. Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn) and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not kids, are in charge).
His health began to rapidly deteriorate when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate, teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch, and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student only worsened his condition.
Mr. Sense declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer aspirin to a student, but could not inform the parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
Finally, Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband, churches became businesses, and criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense finally gave up the ghost after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot, then she spilled a bit in her lap and was awarded a huge financial settlement.
Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust; his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason.
He is survived by two stepbrothers: My Rights and Ima Whiner.
Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.
*puts down megaphone, hangs head for about 60 seconds*
Ok. Back to work! Is it ok for me to love you?
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Jay Bowman
Posts: 6511
Los Angeles, California, US
BCG wrote:
are we all to blame for allowing or passively participating??? Well, of course.
We're also to blame for anyone else's addictions to drugs, sex, gambling, shopping, pokemon, etc, because we allow it to continue knowing that they lack either self-control, reasonable judgement on personal decisions or a marginal capacity for rational thought...
Yes, it's all our fault...
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Virtue Photography
Posts: 29
Torrance, California, US
In my 8 years of photography I think only one girl has ever said she used drugs and it was pot. I have known many models and NONE of them are into drugs, maybe its just the type of girls I work with. However, I am pretty sure that most of them have some issues with eating disorders or something.
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Just AJ
Posts: 3478
Round Rock, Texas, US
DigitalCMH wrote:
Is it ok for me to love you? Absolutely!!
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B R E E D L O V E
Posts: 8022
Forks, Washington, US
The other day I almost had to beat a guy hard. I was returning from a trip out of town and was about two hours from home when we stopped for gas at a 7&11. Well this guy approached me, he was clearly on drugs and got more than a little upset when I refused to give him a handout. He came at me threatening to kick my ass and I have to admit I went from calm easy going to completely ballistic in a heart beat. Normally I am the most easy going person you will ever meet, I hate confrontation but I hate worst to be confronted like that, nothing sets me off faster than a man threatening me. Anyway my cousin pulled me away and the guy retreated. After all was said and done he approached me, shook my hand and apologized. We sat down and I told him why I could not help him kill himself with drugs and I told him he really needed to get some help, he started crying and said he knows. We left him sitting on the sidewalk in tears, what can you do.
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Jwill266
Posts: 449
Louisville, Kentucky, US
MelissaBaker wrote:
James,
We've talked before about my daughter shooting with you so I know you have a wife that you say how much you love but I'll assume no kids-especially a daughter? All I could think about your response is wow... I guess thats how the majority goes through most of life, the easy way and just going along with the crowd. Thats how things have became the way they are in this world. Nice message for the young girls....Spare you a lecture? Wont even begin to give you one, your a grown man.
For all the young girls out there trying to become a model and reaching your dreams this is a brutal business and those attitudes are exactly what you will come in contact with alot. What you do about it is your choice though.You have to be strong and draw a line that YOU put of where you cross and dont.Yes,it's true you have to be unbelievably thin.Drugs is NOT the only way to get to that size though.You can do it in a healthy way but it will take more time and effort than you can imagine.HARD WORK... ALOT of hard work, but it can be done and you dont have to loose yourself in the process of reaching your dream. If your afraid of hard work, your in the wrong business anyway. Being a good model is alot of hard work every single day so your prepared for the next paying client.
Just a crazy thought, but instead of getting a drug dealer why not a good trainer and nutritionist? Someday all the photo shoots, campaigns and ads all come to an end. If you like what you see in the mirror when its all over, then you REALLY WERE successful.
by Becky Baker Good post! My daughter models and works out daily for over an hour and does not eat just anything anytime she wants. She handles it more like I worked hard this week so now I can have ice cream today.
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BCG
Posts: 7316
San Antonio, Florida, US
Jay Bowman wrote:
Well, of course.
We're also to blame for anyone else's addictions to drugs, sex, gambling, shopping, pokemon, etc, because we allow it to continue knowing that they lack either self-control, reasonable judgement on personal decisions or a marginal capacity for rational thought...
Yes, it's all our fault... so we are not our brothers keeper???
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Stevie Lynn C
Posts: 617
Tampa, Florida, US
BCG wrote:
i will spare you the lectures...but along lifes road, you will need someone to spare you the compassion that you yourself chose not to show...and you will cry like a little girl on that day. I love this response!
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grsphoto
Posts: 313
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
James Berglie wrote:
the girls gotta do what they gotta do to stay thin. -- its their choice. -- I still remember the day when I heard an agent tell a 16 year old girl to stay off the pill and start smoking to help her stay thin.... or the 19 year old talking about her friend who addicted to laxatives...or hearing one 17 year old talking to another about eating cotton balls soaked in grape juice to cut down on the hunger pains.... yeah those girls gotta do what they gotta do
Glenn
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Duncan
Posts: 2135
New York, New York, US
BCG wrote:
eating disorders...sexual decadance and rampant drug abuse...are we all to blame for allowing or passively participating???...i recall the passing of Letticia Lynn Blake...her passing was glossed over by many...was this out of guilt???...i have been place in a situation with a model using heroin while on a shoot...the shoot was stopped...while she did seek help, she relapsed a few times, but has now been clean for over a year. Damn photography beats working in a cubicle day after day under flourescents That would make me kill MYSELF!!
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studio36uk
Posts: 22898
Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna
BCG wrote:
does that not then make us accomplices??? If there is awareness and you are silent; or worse acquiescent; or even still worse an active participant... then yes.
Studio36
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SarahSVET
Posts: 331
Los Angeles, California, US
Ok I understand what your saying about how horrible this industry can be but if you really feel disgusted with it, then why partcipate?
Yes a lot of girls end up with some type of eating disorder or drug addiction but I dont know about the rest of the world but here in LA you dont have to be a model to have those things. Its just how society is now.
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BasementStudios
Posts: 801
Newton Falls, Ohio, US
BCG wrote:
i am going out on a limb and saying this...but i would wager, that all things factored, that the death toll in the beauty industry surpasses the death toll on the war on terror. Stupid stupid comparisson
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