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QUERY: Name a means of recording a focused image onto film besides a lens, a pinhole or a laser. Jul 01 05 10:38 am Link Does a projector count as a laser? Jul 01 05 10:42 am Link Posted by Jack D Trute: Does the projector work without a lens? besides a lens, a pinhole or a laser Jul 01 05 11:57 am Link Radiation. An x-ray is an example. Jul 01 05 12:01 pm Link How does a plain photogram figure in your equation? Alex Jul 01 05 12:02 pm Link Furthermore when you place a flower or an object on a flat bed scanner the image of the flower or object is recorded by a series of long CCDs which also have little plastic lenses embedded. Your question sort of implied one lens. Jul 01 05 12:05 pm Link Posted by alexwh: That's one. Jul 01 05 01:35 pm Link Posted by LarryB: That's two. Jul 01 05 01:36 pm Link Posted by alexwh: CCDs don't count and my question said "a lens," so meaning not any kind of lens. recording a focused image onto film Jul 01 05 01:37 pm Link zone plate slit magnetic field for focusing electromagnetic radiation photon sieve Jul 01 05 01:42 pm Link Posted by Ed Nazarko: That's still the same principles as a pinhole camera. magnetic field for focusing electromagnetic radiation Ooh, good! photon sieve I think that still uses a lens... ? Jul 01 05 02:29 pm Link A knife A contact print An ink jet [I know, I'm stretching it...] mjr. Jul 01 05 02:33 pm Link Hehe, yeah. A normal inkjet? Jul 01 05 03:06 pm Link are we talking first generation capture or subsequent reproduction? Jul 02 05 12:46 am Link Posted by Ched: Posted by alexwh: That's one. but you said a focused image. minus one point alex and minus two points ched for incorrectly awarding a point. Jul 02 05 05:04 am Link Focused doesn't have to be from a lens. A photogram can have sharp edges. A direct sunlight imprint of a bicycle wheel or a pair of hands, for instance. It's clear enough to tell what it is, even if it's only two shades. If the photogram is out the radation is as well because they're doing the same thing. Jul 02 05 05:19 am Link Posted by Justin N Lane: Capture of an image on a reactive material. Jul 02 05 05:20 am Link  Devine intervention? Jul 02 05 07:51 am Link Posted by XtremeArtists: ROTFLMASSOFF Jul 02 05 07:59 am Link Posted by XtremeArtists: most scientists agree carbon dating proves this is not an image from the time of christ.... Jul 02 05 08:23 am Link oh and in answer to the first question... images have been placed on film by telepathy or something like telepathic image projection... but it might be a hoax D Jul 02 05 08:25 am Link Painting directly on photopaper or sheet film with developer in room light... Etching plate metal for printmaking... Also heat sensitive media such as thermal label printing (where the paper is impregnated with heat sensitive ink)... I suppose the crt monitor I'm staring at right now falls into the radiation category- but other materials that flouresce... you didn't say the image had to be induring Jul 02 05 10:11 am Link Posted by XtremeArtists: Ya better give Xtreme at least 10 points for that one... after all, you DON'T want to Mess with Devine intervention! Jul 02 05 10:22 am Link Posted by Justin N Lane: I'm sorry you're having trouble with this. On FILM, dammit! It has to be recorded and useable. You have to be able to use the technology to get an image without using a manufactured lens, a laser, or pinhole techniques. Jul 02 05 12:45 pm Link Posted by SayCheeZ!: No hoaxes, imaging technologies. One point for a right answer, no points off for guesses. Jul 02 05 12:48 pm Link RADAR - can create fairly accurate images of items in sky (such as cloud formations or aircraft). It's not just used for nailing speeders anymore! SONAR - Kinda works like radar, except uses sound waves for underwater use. Is used for imaging sunken ships and underwater landscapes. THERMOGRAPHY - Accuratly shows variations in heat... great for finding fires that are behind walls, or problem areas on expensive engines. RADIO MAPPING AND TELEMETRY - might fall under electromagnetic category. An array of antennas are spread out over a wide area and pointed toward the heavens to pinpoint and map out astronomical beings. When an array is properly placed, the whole earth can considered one large satellite dish... great for catching those "My Mother The Car" reruns that are now appearing on Venus. Jul 02 05 01:51 pm Link Posted by David Klein: Posted by XtremeArtists: most scientists agree carbon dating proves this is not an image from the time of christ.... POLAROID IMAGE TRANSFER Jul 02 05 02:11 pm Link Posted by SayCheeZ!: Particle emissions (radiation) was already used. Jul 02 05 02:39 pm Link POLAROID IMAGE TRANSFER 1 POINT - XTREMEARTISTS Jul 02 05 02:41 pm Link In 1970 Ernie Gehr made a movie called "History" without a lens on the camera... but it wasn't focused... Jul 02 05 03:02 pm Link on film eh? polaroid transfer is out then, because you are moving a developed image to a non-reactive substrate  Jul 02 05 03:19 pm Link Posted by Justin N Lane: ... hmm ... Jul 02 05 03:28 pm Link Posted by Justin N Lane: Well if you take POLAROID TRANSFER away, I want DEVINE INTERVENTION added! Jul 02 05 03:29 pm Link Posted by Ched: Posted by Justin N Lane: ... hmm ... the polaroid itself is the film... the paper you transferring it to (usually an archival cotton rag) is just absorbing the dyes... but... if you were to do gum bichromate or cyanotype that would count because you are chemically sensitizing the paper... though it's just a contact print or photogram that still needs a traditional method of exposure...so I don't know if this would count above and beyond those methods Jul 02 05 03:56 pm Link Posted by XtremeArtists: Posted by Justin N Lane: didn't feel like lying- I mean, it is what is it, a shot in a mirror Jul 02 05 03:58 pm Link Posted by Justin N Lane: Posted by XtremeArtists: didn't feel like lying- I mean, it is what is it, a shot in a mirror OK Stieglitz... Jul 02 05 04:01 pm Link In photography when you flip a mirror image, or simply flip an image the correct term is flopping. Alex Jul 02 05 05:03 pm Link Posted by alexwh: Hmmm..that's a new one to me I think...It's been over 10 years since I worked with paste up of camera ready art. Maybe we used the term then and I forgot... Jul 02 05 06:04 pm Link Flopping is the term used by photo editors, graphic designers, art directors and press people in the magazine industry. Perhaps Ched can explain to us the difference between solarization and the Sabattier effect. Jul 02 05 07:32 pm Link Posted by alexwh: No clue. Jul 02 05 10:44 pm Link |
