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Do you limit yourself from working with minors?
I will not allow anyone under the age of 18 to even enter my studio. KM May 04 09 08:27 pm Link I have no interest in shooting anyone under 18. It's not personal. It's an executive decision. I don't want to associate minors with the work I do. My life is too complicated already. I do enormous amounts of photography work for free anyway. I like calculated risks. I avoid foolish risks. I'm not looking for management headaches. I don't want to intrude or interfere with anyone's personal life, family life, boyfriend, husband, boss, parental perogatives, etc. I respect the privacy of others as I expect them to respect mine. I don't want to have to explain myself or justify what I do to anyone, especially people who might strongly disagree with me. If you are over 18, if you are a consenting adult, if you know what you are doing and if you are nice to me, then you can take your clothes off. My life, my terms ;-) May 04 09 08:31 pm Link ok so i have been modeling since about age 10 iv seen my fair share of contracts and forms... my mom was always present durning all of my shoot and still is today (if it is a photographer i have never worked with before.) most of if not all of the contracts i have come across have mentioned something about refunds and what not, i do in everyway believe if the model wants a refund ALL of the pictures should be deleted and taken back. also i believe that before every shoot there should be some kind of meeting ahead of time so that the model (and parent) understand and agree to there role in the shoot. If there is such a problem, it is your prerogative to take control of the shoot and if need be refuse to continue shooting. if the shoot ends because of a problem with a parent etc. it would be professional to give a refund (of course such terms should be dicussed ahead of time: if the shoot should end early.... this is the amount you will be receiving...) the photographer is and should always be in charge if the parent does not agree tell them to go find a push over!! May 04 09 08:51 pm Link If it is for a commercial shoot, for an ad or editorial for a story yes, but for modeling and glamour no. I only once change that policy because I was a friend of the family. I just feel it is such a legal and social land mine field, that I avoid it. May 04 09 09:12 pm Link NOT worth the trouble. May 04 09 10:06 pm Link Veasna Him wrote: I will work with minors when their parent is there. May 05 09 05:24 am Link I've worked with minors often back when I had my studio. Senior photos and proms provided a pretty good stream of income. However there should be a distinction between that type of work and model photography. I have shot minors but it was done under extremely strict limitations. I NEVER shot a minor without a parents presence and a signed release, period. Even then there were some that I refused totally even with a parent making the request as in one incidence where the father wanted some "sexy" photos of his twelve year old daughter even though she "looked" 21. Him I reported to a friend of mine on the local police department as a precaution. It's a percarious situation these day especially that is why I no longer work with minors. May 05 09 05:32 am Link Ken Marcus Studios wrote: That I can understand but for most of us senior and prom photos were an income situation. Your work, while terrific, does preclude having minors anywhere in your vicinity. That would be asking for problems! May 05 09 05:35 am Link nope, sure don't. I think about what the shoot is for, will I be publishing it, then decide, tell them to bring their parents. May 05 09 05:36 am Link Veasna Him wrote: Unless I already know the parents personally, I won't do it because I don't feel like shooting portraits. To me, there's no joy in shooting standard, mainstream portraits...regardless of age. May 05 09 05:41 am Link Shot with 13, 14, 15, 16 year old agency girls . . . BIKINI even! . . . no sag, no sun damaged skin! May 05 09 05:45 am Link Veasna Him wrote: School photographty is so far away from this site as you can get. It is a business and goes quite well, but it is dominated by the larger concerns.. You have a contract with the school. I do not know of any business using model releases, they do not play a part in school photography.. May 05 09 05:47 am Link Veasna Him wrote: ****** May 05 09 05:56 am Link Not really interested. Maybe if a young model was interesting enough... Maybe... The majority of working and interesting models in my area are over 18 as it is. People complain about models bringing boyfriends... Models bringing parents? Yeah, that's on a whole new level that I don't want to comprehend. May 05 09 06:12 am Link I work with minors often. I don't know why people always get hung up on this. May 05 09 06:13 am Link Agency sends them. I have no problems with it. May 05 09 06:15 am Link ward wrote: ditto May 05 09 06:16 am Link Doug Swinskey wrote: Ditto Ditto. One of the models in my port is under 18, and honestly, is probably the most professional one I've worked with. May 05 09 08:09 am Link A slice of oblivion wrote: Yup, that's my policy too. May 05 09 08:11 am Link Doug Swinskey wrote: If I was a photographer for hire, I like Doug's attitude. May 05 09 09:06 am Link Ken Marcus Studios wrote: Yes, but so we are all clear here, you are in the adult business. I doubt that you have ever shot a senior portrait. Of course, neither have I, but I have worked with minors at some of my events and done a few agency tests over the years. May 05 09 10:13 am Link ward wrote: Yep, me too. May 05 09 10:27 am Link ward wrote: +1 May 05 09 12:03 pm Link Veasna Him wrote: just depends on the circumstances but if I knew I could use a model who was 16 I wouldn't hesitate to work with her. dont like the mom's being around sometimes, not because of the escort thing, but because some get all weird and want to tell me how to shoot lol.. that is annoying May 05 09 12:06 pm Link Doug Swinskey wrote: Stan Schutze wrote: personally..ill shoot anything with anyone outside of sexual depictions and lascivious displays of genitalia... May 05 09 12:19 pm Link Ken Marcus Studios wrote: Ditto, given my type of photography, it is not even a thought. May 05 09 12:22 pm Link Do you limit yourself from working with minors? I DO NOT LIMIT YOUR SELF WHEN SHOOTING WITH MINORS NO JUST I REMEMBER THAT EVERY SHOOT I DO IS A LEARNING LESSON I JUST HAVE TO ALSO REMEMBER THAT IF THEY ARE NOT 18 YEARS OF AGE HAVE TO HAVE A PARENT AND HAVE TO SIGN A MODEL RELEASE TO USE THEIR SHOOT IN OTHER FORM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OF AGE YET BUT NO PROBLEM May 05 09 06:19 pm Link I did... until I found two exceptional 17-year-olds who helped create the shots in my avi. Their parents were there, the releases were signed. No problem. Both of their parents loved the shots. May 05 09 06:24 pm Link Nope. I have photographed many minors. With Minors parent must be present and I do card every model that I shoot. May 05 09 06:27 pm Link Yes I work with minors. They can make wonderful models. May 05 09 06:35 pm Link Well I recently tested a couple models for beauty & glam , and found their younger sisters rather more interesting. Hope to line up beauty shoots with 'em both. May 07 09 10:33 pm Link Generally I don't, because I don't want the extra hassle. But I would make an exception for a great-looking 17-year-old. I don't really have an issue with the parents. Over here, I regularly get introduced to the parents and even invited for coffee before the shoot. One model in her twenties introduced me to her mother and her grandmother before we went off to shoot (including lingerie, which neither the mother nor the grandmother would approve of...) May 07 09 11:36 pm Link I know many photographers won't shoot with minors, but on occasion I will, but a parent/legal guardian must be present. If I do not know, or have not been introduced to the parent or legal guardian prior to the shoot, I reserve the right to ask for identification from them too, and I "cover" myself with an assistant. I will not deal with "he said, she said" situations as a result of a shoot with a minor. May 08 09 12:02 am Link For portraits I will work with minors if a parent is present and so is my assistant. For modeling projects I never work with minors. May 08 09 12:04 am Link I've worked with several minors on either TFCD or paid portrait work. The youngest was three years old. Most are in their late teens. I've had very very problems with the parents and most of the girls are wonderful to work with. I had one mother start to dictate the details of the next shoot, so the next shoot never happened. One parent of a senior portrait subject decided to back out on the purchase (apparently in an attempt to get free pictures), so I let that deal die. Most parents, though, have been great. But, Veasna, if you really hate dealing with parents you'd best stay away from senior portrait work. Tolerating parents doesn't mean you've got to put up with stage moms and parental micromanagement. Just don't bring in an attitude yourself. The parents are paying for the pictures, so you'll have to deal with them. Make the best of it or don't do it at all. If you get combative with the parents, word definitely gets around. May 08 09 01:37 am Link I happily work with minors. My principal muse is ten years old. Ten year old  Twelve year old  May 08 09 01:47 am Link Ken Pegg wrote: BEAUTIFUL. May 08 09 01:51 am Link Whats the big deal ? Shoot them all them time, any agency shooter does. Im with Ward and the others , what the big deal ? May 08 09 01:54 am Link I will only shoot under 18s for agency tests or if they are supplied by an agency for a client. There are plenty of over 18 models for the testing I want to do for my portfolio so why bother with minors? Otherwise, it's just too risky here in the UK IMHO as any 16/17 year old will naturally want to look attractive and sexy in 'modelling' shoots (I don't shoot senior portraits or families), and even if she's fully clothed, a photo could be considered 'indecent' (a word that has NO legal definition in the UK) by a judge or jury if her facial expression becomes too... shall we say... 'enthusiastic'...  Just my $0.02 Ciao Stefano www.stefanobrunesci.com May 08 09 01:59 am Link Stefano Brunesci wrote: Sad to hear that things are worse there in the U.K. in case of prudery . . . any hope that that might change? May 08 09 02:09 am Link |
