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Wonderland Avenue Shots

Posts: 289

London, England, United Kingdom

Karl Baxter wrote:
I don't think this is remotely sexual, although she is really beautiful..

http://modelmayhm-4.vo.llnwd.net/d1/pho … 66355e.jpg

Really awesome shot too... just great...

Jul 01 09 10:43 am Link

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Wonderland Avenue Shots

Posts: 289

London, England, United Kingdom

io wrote:
All the ones in my port! smile

A model pointed me in the direction of your portfolio the other day & said exactly that... you're her heroine & she wanted shots as tasteful as yours!

And I'm not joking either!!!!

Jul 01 09 10:45 am Link

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bencook2

Posts: 3875

Tucson, Arizona, US

Caperucita Roja wrote:

Is it one of mine?

Nope... your's rock.

Jul 01 09 10:48 am Link

Photographer

Jouissance Images

Posts: 744

Bloomington, Minnesota, US

bencook2 wrote:
I was hoping a few of you guys would post your best non sexual nude.

I think what we are going to see here is that "sexuality" is going to be in the eye of the beholder.

But a lot more interesting conversations might pop up as well.  Possibly the amount showing could be a factor. Angle, lighting, wardrobe, setting... ect.

To be honest, can a nude be just "artistic" and "beautiful" and void of sexuality?  I'm not sure.

I think this might also be a place to discuss the difference between sexual and erotic.

https://img2.modelmayhem.com/050703/21/42c89f01f407a_m.jpg

Not, it really can't be void of sexuality, despite some of the pious claims you'll hear.

Jul 01 09 10:50 am Link

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B R U N E S C I

Posts: 25319

Bath, England, United Kingdom

I see this as kind of bizarre rather than sexy, but I may just be barking mad big_smile

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … up_id=&ua= (18+)


Ciao
Stefano

www.stefanobrunesci.com

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Photographer

Mclain D Swift

Posts: 1279

Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada

My work is non-sexual.

Jul 01 09 11:00 am Link

Photographer

Chris Macan

Posts: 12969

HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US

Vorland Photography wrote:
Not, it really can't be void of sexuality, despite some of the pious claims you'll hear.

If you don't think that nudity can be devoid of sexuality you have issues.
So if the nude is not where the sex is..... then it's in your head.

Jul 01 09 11:02 am Link

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Michael Barrett

Posts: 1149

Upland, California, US

I don't think the amount of skin will determine the sexuality of an image.

My image below is implied, but if she was wearing a potatoe sack, she would still look sexy.

https://modelmayhm-9.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090107/10/4964fa37d9256.jpg

Jul 01 09 11:03 am Link

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Kiran Patil

Posts: 315

Newark, Delaware, US

Thank you Chris!

It's funny how when you write "nude" and "sexual" everyone thinks of women.

Sexuality is complicated. There is a lot of culture, personal experience and genetics involved in that dividing line between what we find arousing and what we simply find aesthetically pleasing in a nude. That being said, I think the BASICS of what is and isn't erotic is universal.

In general, I believe it can be said that if the pose doesn't invite the person to sexually engage in the picture it's not erotic. Keep in mind, it can be a subtle invitation. All glamour is erotic to some degree. Even a glamour portrait of a starlet smiling on the cover of a magazine is supposed to be sexual. There is a lot of bad glamour floating around so I think we've forgotten this... It's all in the smile and the eyes - they should invite you to be a little aroused. Even if it's just to desire sitting in the model's company and basking in their beauty.

Non erotic nudes are devoid of that invitation. They exist for a different purpose which is defined by the photographer. It can be anything from a masterful exploration of shape and form to a highly staged art concept like emphasizing the exploitation of the proletariat.

I guess what I am saying is that I feel what dictates the eroticism of a nude photo is the approach the photographer takes to the subject. If you simply say "it's in the eye of the beholder" then what you are really saying is that there was zero thought put in to that photograph. There was a nude model and the photographer clicked a button and took a picture. That's not art, that's not porn, that's not commercial photography of any kind - it's just useless and not even worth talking about. It's like writing a book with a lot of random words. It might possibly make sense but there is no real communication occurring.

That isn't to say that the viewer cannot interpret or experience photos differently - just that photographer's approach weighs so heavily on the outcome of the photo that there is rarely much ambiguity for the viewer. And when there IS ambiguity, I usually find that was intentionally created by the photographer. Though when that happens, it is still erotic I think. I mean, if you are on the fence, you are clearly feeling some eroticism from the photo.

If you can't tell, I've given this question much thought over the past 5 years and modeled my artwork on specifically how to de-focus on eroticism and create non-erotic nude photos that explore people's souls more than their bodies. As a result I have very strong feelings about this topic.

Okay, I'll shut up now.

Jul 01 09 11:04 am Link

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Daniel Norton

Posts: 1745

New York, New York, US

I'd say 99% of the work on MM is non sexual except maybe to the GWC shooting it.

Jul 01 09 11:05 am Link

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TDSImages

Posts: 1018

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090423/22/49f15162379e1_m.jpg

Jul 01 09 11:06 am Link

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Christine Eadie

Posts: 2614

Charleston, South Carolina, US

Most recent.
https://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090224/09/49a427de805e4_m.jpg

Jul 01 09 11:06 am Link

Photographer

Inspiring Form

Posts: 21

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Here's a couple of mine, for the most part I don't think my work is sexual in nature.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=11154684 +18

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=11154725 +18

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=11154717 +18

Jul 01 09 11:17 am Link

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Gary Melton

Posts: 6680

Dallas, Texas, US

https://img9.modelmayhem.com/070713/08/469780a00ec0b.jpg

Jul 01 09 11:21 am Link

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vanscottie

Posts: 1190

Winnetka, California, US

Generally my work involves some measure of if not sexuality than sensuality, or an intimacy with the model and her personality which can be taken as sensuality...at least that's basically my aim..but here's a few I doubt one would find "sexy"

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … up_id=&ua=

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … up_id=&ua=

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … up_id=&ua=

Jul 01 09 11:23 am Link

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Creative Concept Studio

Posts: 2704

Fort Worth, Texas, US

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3034/2815177397_6b738fa981.jpg

Jul 01 09 11:24 am Link

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FotoMark

Posts: 2978

Oxnard, California, US

Jul 01 09 11:26 am Link

Model

not on MM anymore 2010

Posts: 2515

Hey people:

if anybody wants to join the List of Fine Art Nude Models and Photographers (two separate lists), come take a look at my profile links. I know this is kind of unrelated, but the purpose of this site is to network and fine art nudes are usually of the non-sexual kind. so, come and take a look.

thank you.

moderators: if this doesn't belong here, just let me know to remove it. Thanks a bunch.

Jul 01 09 11:27 am Link

Photographer

Wonderland Avenue Shots

Posts: 289

London, England, United Kingdom

I guess in theory any nude that doesn't involve a member of the opposite sex & isn't sexually orientated is non-sexual isn't it?

...or as we like to call it (fakely) in the trade 'Fine Art'.

Jul 01 09 11:29 am Link

Model

Ossuary

Posts: 1671

San Francisco, California, US

The vast majority of my nudes are not focused on sexuality. Though I'll probably have a lot more nudes in the vein pretty soon.

Jul 01 09 11:29 am Link

Photographer

Moon Pix Photography

Posts: 3907

Syracuse, New York, US

Don't know if it is the best, but one of the newest... smile

18+
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid … up_id=&ua=

Jul 01 09 11:31 am Link

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La Seine by the Hudson

Posts: 8587

New York, New York, US

Personally, my favorite nudes generally have an undercurrent of sexuality. Not glamour-ish, not porn-ish, and generally not what people term "erotic" work. But they generally SHOULD have a certain je-ne-sais-quoi sexiness.

Actually, much of the same I'd say for my fashion work, even though there's rarely nudity in it.

Jul 01 09 11:31 am Link

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sospix

Posts: 23775

Orlando, Florida, US

Here's one from a recent shoot  .  .  .

SOS

http://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/pho … 46cee9.jpg

Jul 01 09 11:32 am Link

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C h a r l e s D

Posts: 9312

Los Angeles, California, US

I've tried to make my whole port non sexual nudes.

Jul 01 09 11:32 am Link

Model

MYS Britt

Posts: 10720

San Diego, California, US

as far as i know mine are ALL non sexual

I am not in the sex business

there are some that came out looking sexual and werent at the tmie
but that's fine

Jul 01 09 11:33 am Link

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Bob Freund

Posts: 884

Prescott, Arizona, US

Jul 01 09 11:38 am Link

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vanscottie

Posts: 1190

Winnetka, California, US

MYS Britt  wrote:
as far as i know mine are ALL non sexual

I am not in the sex business

there are some that came out looking sexual and werent at the tmie
but that's fine

I think this is getting confusing, looking sexy and a shot being sexual are two different things. I didn't like the pics of you here because I think you look sexy in em

Jul 01 09 11:39 am Link

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La Seine by the Hudson

Posts: 8587

New York, New York, US

Daniel Norton wrote:
I'd say 99% of the work on MM is non sexual except maybe to the GWC shooting it.

And that is precisely the problem, isn't it? wink

Jul 01 09 12:05 pm Link

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Roy Whiddon

Posts: 1666

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Non-sexual, "implied", female:
https://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081024/21/4902720f5be58_m.jpg

Non-sexual, "implied", male:
https://modelmayhm-1.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081213/15/49441779e9198_m.jpg

Non-sexual, full frontal, female:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=8261303  (18+)

and most of the rest of my portfolio.

Jul 01 09 12:16 pm Link

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terminal blue

Posts: 234

Iráklion, Attikí, Greece

Jul 01 09 12:23 pm Link

Photographer

La Seine by the Hudson

Posts: 8587

New York, New York, US

The fact that so many here think of "non sexual" work as being a badge of honor makes me think that what constitutes "sexuality" to most people is probably extremely vulgar (and I don't mean that in the "dirty" or "explicit" sense, but rather the "common/classless" and "boring" sense), and/or the power and indeed the potential good of sexuality is highly underrated and misunderstood.

Jul 01 09 12:29 pm Link

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The Anthony Hall

Posts: 170

New Orleans, Louisiana, US

La Seine by the Hudson wrote:
The fact that so many here think of "non sexual" work as being a badge of honor makes me think that what constitutes "sexuality" to most people is probably extremely vulgar (and I don't mean that in the "dirty" or "explicit" sense, but rather the "common/classless" and "boring" sense), and/or the power and indeed the potential good of sexuality is highly underrated and misunderstood.

Well said, sir.

Jul 01 09 12:35 pm Link

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Kiran Patil

Posts: 315

Newark, Delaware, US

La Seine by the Hudson wrote:
The fact that so many here think of "non sexual" work as being a badge of honor makes me think that what constitutes "sexuality" to most people is probably extremely vulgar (and I don't mean that in the "dirty" or "explicit" sense, but rather the "common/classless" and "boring" sense), and/or the power and indeed the potential good of sexuality is highly underrated and misunderstood.

Good observation. I think you are right in all points. The subtlety of sexuality is lost on many people, maybe due to the prevalence and ease of access to hardcore pornography now days. As you pointed out, for many people it's a binary alternative; porn or not porn with no shades of eroticism in between.

Jul 01 09 12:37 pm Link

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Yves Duchamp - Femme

Posts: 24436

Virginia Beach, Virginia, US

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Model

Ossuary

Posts: 1671

San Francisco, California, US

La Seine by the Hudson wrote:
The fact that so many here think of "non sexual" work as being a badge of honor makes me think that what constitutes "sexuality" to most people is probably extremely vulgar (and I don't mean that in the "dirty" or "explicit" sense, but rather the "common/classless" and "boring" sense), and/or the power and indeed the potential good of sexuality is highly underrated and misunderstood.

Agreed. That's American Puritanical morality for you.

Jul 01 09 01:00 pm Link

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DVS

Posts: 10000

Detroit, Michigan, US

https://modelmayhm-5.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080430/11/481891d04f7b3.jpg

Jul 01 09 01:01 pm Link