Posted by EMG STUDIOS: 
I think I may be getting an R1800, I lost my 2000p to a flood in my house on Monday. I lost a bunch of photo equipment that was in my garage (under the house) as well as other worldly possessions.

Holla

Sorry to see the mess. Even if insurance picks up the cost 100% it's still a major hassle.

If you print mostly glossies, the R1800 is the #1 choice. Contrary to what another poster in this thread said, the inkset is *not* the same as the 2200P.

A well-known print guy in the area showed me some R1800 output and they fit in the 'no-way-this-came-off-an-inkjet' category.

If, however, glossies are not your primary output, you might want to give the R2400 a look. It's $300 more than the R1800, but will give you better matte & b/w prints than the 1800.

As far as paper goes for either printer, the only real choices you have are those for which the vendor has provided ICC profiles, and as of right now, that's Epson.

Posted by EMG STUDIOS: 
Yeah, you can not really be upset but it is the hassle that make sh*t uncomfortable. I'm a glossy dude, so I think I'm going to get the 1800 when I get a check, unless there is a solution that works well for both.

I've only seen glossies off the 1800, but my understanding is that while it is best suited for glossies it is well above adequate for the rest.

I wouldn't print high gloss off the R2400 because I know, without looking, it will have the same problems that the 2000P and 2200P have (I've owned both); namely, the inks, especially black, don't set in the paper at the same "level."

Posted by Todd Steinwart: 
Contrary to what another poster in this thread said, the inkset is *not* the same as the 2200P.

You're right - they're both UltraChrome pigment inks, but the 1800's are designed to work with the gloss optimizer. So the 1800's prints should give similar longevity to the 2200's, but don't suffer anywhere near as much from bronzing.

Some other paper companies (such as Ilford and Red River Paper) have started releasing profiles for some papers if you want to experiment.

Posted by QuaeVide: 

Posted by Todd Steinwart: 
Contrary to what another poster in this thread said, the inkset is *not* the same as the 2200P.

You're right - they're both UltraChrome pigment inks, but the 1800's are designed to work with the gloss optimizer. So the 1800's prints should give similar longevity to the 2200's, but don't suffer anywhere near as much from bronzing.

Some other paper companies (such as Ilford and Red River Paper) have started releasing profiles for some papers if you want to experiment.

I had read your earlier post to mean that they used the same *colors* but that the 1800 adds red and blue. The old 200P had cyan, magenta, yellow, light cyan, light magenta and black inks. The 1800 has cyan, magenta, yellow, red, blue, photo or matte black and a gloss optimizer. They call it an eight color ink palette, which is stretching the truth ever so slightly. Yes, there are 8 cartridges, but you only have 6 colors because you don't use both blacks in the same print and the gloss optimizer isn't really a color. (Anybody who wants to quibble and say that black isn't really a "color" either gets a knuckle sandwich.)

But they are both ultrachrome inks, although the droplet size for the R1800 is considerably smaller than the 2000P.

The R2400, on the other hand, uses the new Ultrachrome K3 inkset. K3 because they now have 3 shades of black: photo or matte black, light black and light-light black. The light and light-light blacks do not work with the photo black (or so I'm told).