Photographer

Dylan White

Posts: 534

Austin, Texas, US

.:UPDATED:.
Hello!

So here is a photo I took and then edited. What do you think?

BEFORE
https://www.dylanwhite.net/upload/thumb.php?id=1ABF_4B96EAEC

AFTER
https://www.dylanwhite.net/upload/thumb.php?id=FE6C_4B9710E1

B&W
https://www.dylanwhite.net/upload/thumb.php?id=E728_4B9710E1

Mar 09 10 04:43 pm Link

Retoucher

J Strath

Posts: 928

Los Angeles, California, US

It's alright.  I like the background, and the highlights on the hair.  I think thy makeup looks too airbrushed though.  I like the B&W version best.

Mar 09 10 05:11 pm Link

Model

Caitlin J

Posts: 194

Portland, Oregon, US

The whites of the eyes are too intense - looks a bit maniacal, actually. I also wouldn't have made the highlights in the lip color so bright. You didn't clean up any of the skin on her chest, which contrasts strangely with her smooth face. Overall, not terrible, but lacks some attention to detail.

Mar 09 10 05:16 pm Link

Photographer

Dylan White

Posts: 534

Austin, Texas, US

Thank you guys! :0 I re-edited them smile

Mar 09 10 07:24 pm Link

Retoucher

Ashish Arora

Posts: 2068

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Dylan White  wrote:
.:UPDATED:.
Hello!

So here is a photo I took and then edited. What do you think?

BEFORE
https://www.dylanwhite.net/upload/thumb.php?id=1ABF_4B96EAEC

AFTER
https://www.dylanwhite.net/upload/thumb.php?id=FE6C_4B9710E1

B&W
https://www.dylanwhite.net/upload/thumb.php?id=E728_4B9710E1

In the before, she looks scary, and you made her look even more scary and uglier, the skin is blurred it seems.

I think you should rather d&b than do what technique you used. High pass that was?  Surface blur? Avoid them please. smile Also take out her flaws on the skin and even out the skin tones.

Mar 09 10 11:33 pm Link

Photographer

Dylan White

Posts: 534

Austin, Texas, US

Magicalla Worx wrote:

In the before, she looks scary, and you made her look even more scary and uglier, the skin is blurred it seems.

I think you should rather d&b than do what technique you used. High pass that was?  Surface blur? Avoid them please. smile Also take out her flaws on the skin and even out the skin tones.

uhhh how do you do D&B? I know the tools but what do I do? yes I did high pass....
would you be willing to help me out?


show me your ways Yoda...

Mar 09 10 11:36 pm Link

Retoucher

Ashish Arora

Posts: 2068

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Dylan White  wrote:
uhhh how do you do D&B? I know the tools but what do I do? yes I did high pass....
would you be willing to help me out?


show me your ways Yoda...

You can read it and follow up here:

Pixel Level Dodge & Burn
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=438619

Edit: I recall Ronald N. Tan posted a tutorial online sometime back on his website. You'll have to have your way by googling it down!

Mar 09 10 11:45 pm Link

Retoucher

Sebastian Reuter

Posts: 126

Frankfurt, Hassia, Germany

i would recommend you to use some sharpening on the edited image. i am not so sure since i had to switch but to me it seems you generally lost some sharpeness in the edited work compared to the original image.

and as it has already been suggested dodge and burn is probably getting you better results. if you cant get anything out of the tutorials linked write me a message and i can quickly show you via desktop sharing on skype, since i will probably working most of the time today and tomorrow on retouches wink

Mar 10 10 10:14 am Link

Retoucher

Ashish Arora

Posts: 2068

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Mourn wrote:
i would recommend you to use some sharpening on the edited image.

Not at all. You sharpen your images? I would never do that, only specific areas need be sharpened like eyes.

I see a lot of blurring and sharpness in your work. You used Portraiture or what? You  are wrong there.

You do not blur and then sharpen. I am a strong advocate against Portraiture.

Mar 10 10 11:16 am Link

Retoucher

Sebastian Reuter

Posts: 126

Frankfurt, Hassia, Germany

Magicalla Worx wrote:
Not at all. You sharpen your images? I would never do that, only specific areas need be sharpened like eyes.

In my opinion different areas need different amount of sharpening, like some parts do not need sharpening at all, which is correct, i should have been more specific about it. looking at the image of the OP i still think some more sharpness especially on the hair eyes and the contures of the clothing would improve the image, but that is just my 2 cents.

Magicalla Worx wrote:
I see a lot of blurring and sharpness in your work. You used Portraiture or what? You  are wrong there.

You do not blur and then sharpen. I am a strong advocate against Portraiture.

is that question directed to the OP or me? Since you did quote me before i am kinda confused about this now.

Mar 10 10 12:10 pm Link

Retoucher

Ashish Arora

Posts: 2068

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Mourn wrote:
In my opinion different areas need different amount of sharpening, like some parts do not need sharpening at all

Most areas do not need no sharpening actually unless its eyes/fabric/minute details/somtimes hair though not too much on it.

Mourn wrote:
is that question directed to the OP or me? Since you did quote me before i am kinda confused about this now.

It reads your name above continued, obviously it was directed to you; if it were not for you, I would mention the OP. I saw this and commented:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=566593

Mar 10 10 12:32 pm Link

Retoucher

Sebastian Reuter

Posts: 126

Frankfurt, Hassia, Germany

Magicalla Worx wrote:
It reads your name above continued, obviously it was directed to you; if it were not for you, I would mention the OP. I saw this and commented:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=566593

I do not use portraiture nor any other plug in. basic clean up with clone stamp and healing tool and then i used some degrunge to smooth out the tones. after that its dodge and burn and a lot of sharpening in the end (which i myself actually like, but i guess it wont hurt to make different versions without sharpening and look closer at the images next time to see if that is actually an improvement of if i should reduce the sharpening)

thanks for the advice, could you just point out which specific areas are blurred since ido not really see what you mean with blurred. did you zoom in on the image? and i am wondering if we should not talk about that in the other thread since i am not sure if the OP is so happy about us highjacking his thread.

Mar 10 10 12:53 pm Link