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Photographer

Arizona Shoots

Posts: 28657

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Do any of the photographers here ever use stand-by models on important shoots? In case it's not clear, by stand-by, I mean in case the model booked doesn't show up, you have a back-up. A couple of questions in particular:

For Models:
Would your ego get hurt if you were contacted to be the stand-by?

For Photographers & Models:
For those of you who use this method, is it proper to pay the stand-by a small fee for showing up if the intended model shows?

I think the answers are obvious. I would just like to get some feedback regarding the issue.

Jul 28 05 03:00 pm Link

Photographer

S W I N S K E Y

Posts: 24376

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

agencys are real good at getting replacement models..
it's their reputationat stake...

the model that shows for the shoot and gets her completed voucher back to the agency, gets the compensation..

Jul 28 05 03:19 pm Link

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Fred Brown Photo

Posts: 1302

Chicago, Illinois, US

Posted by Doug Swinskey: 
agencys are real good at getting replacement models..
it's their reputationat stake...

the model that shows for the shoot and gets her completed voucher back to the agency, gets the compensation..

ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jul 28 05 03:22 pm Link

Photographer

Arizona Shoots

Posts: 28657

Phoenix, Arizona, US

But what if both show up?

Jul 28 05 03:24 pm Link

Photographer

S W I N S K E Y

Posts: 24376

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Posted by John Jebbia: 
But what if both show up?

a second model will only be dispatched after the first fails to appear...at that point, the primary model has lost the gig...

Jul 28 05 03:32 pm Link

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Patrick Walberg

Posts: 45198

San Juan Bautista, California, US

Posted by John Jebbia: 
But what if both show up?

Having a back up is the smartest thing anyone can do! If they both show up, then shoot the one who was your primary OR put them both in! 

Jul 28 05 04:02 pm Link

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XtremeArtists

Posts: 9122

Posted by Patrick Walberg: 

Posted by John Jebbia: 
But what if both show up?

Having a back up is the smartest thing anyone can do! If they both show up, then shoot the one who was your primary OR put them both in!   

For "an important shoot" I think Doug's idea is smarter.

Jul 28 05 04:07 pm Link

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theda

Posts: 21719

New York, New York, US

I don't know if I'd clear time in my schedule to stand by for a shoot. I'm sure it would depend on the circumstances. Hurt feelings aren't an issue, but time is.

Jul 28 05 04:33 pm Link

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J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

Posted by John Jebbia: 
Do any of the photographers here ever use stand-by models on important shoots? In case it's not clear, by stand-by, I mean in case the model booked doesn't show up, you have a back-up. A couple of questions in particular:

For Models:
Would your ego get hurt if you were contacted to be the stand-by?

For Photographers & Models:
For those of you who use this method, is it proper to pay the stand-by a small fee for showing up if the intended model shows?

I think the answers are obvious. I would just like to get some feedback regarding the issue.

As Doug pointed out - that's one of the big benefits of working with agencies. If there's a scheduling problem, a replacement (maybe not a perfect one, but pretty good) is usually readily available.

John

Jul 28 05 04:53 pm Link

Model

angelavasquez

Posts: 844

Murrieta, California, US

No way. work is work. I just see it as, okay the other model was un-reliable so they look to me, the more reliable, professional one!

Jul 28 05 04:55 pm Link

Photographer

not here anymore.

Posts: 1892

San Diego, California, US

I always have backup models, which is why I shoot more than 1 model at a time for IMPORTANT shoots.

Jul 28 05 05:46 pm Link

Model

BQueenGirl

Posts: 340

Belleville, Michigan, US

Posted by * Visual Mindscapes *: 
I always have backup models, which is why I shoot more than 1 model at a time for IMPORTANT shoots.

i have been sitting outside for a month, may i pul-lease shoot with you now

Jul 28 05 08:35 pm Link

Model

Jeri Lynn Astra

Posts: 240

Pleasantville, New York, US

My feelings wouldn't be hurt in the least.

But I wouldn't agree to it unless I didn't have any plans anyway or it was something fairly big. I hate sitting around waiting when I could be doing something productive.

Jul 28 05 08:40 pm Link

Photographer

Columbus Photo

Posts: 2318

Columbus, Georgia, US

You mean like, "Hey there, I need a backup twat to shoot."

How important could the shoot be if the client wasn't picking the model?

Paul

Jul 28 05 09:26 pm Link

Photographer

Arizona Shoots

Posts: 28657

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Posted by Paul Ferrara: 
You mean like, "Hey there, I need a backup twat to shoot."

How important could the shoot be if the client wasn't picking the model?

Paul

Well, I've never hidden the fact that I do things in sort of an unconventional way. It works for me so why change it.. The post was more meant to get thoughts on something I have been considering for a while now.. having a back-up when needed.

But to answer your question.. not just any twat will do in all situations.

Jul 28 05 09:33 pm Link