Posted by Sun Karma: 
Found this just wandering around on FG...

This is a funny phrase if you think about it.
Active but not active.

Posted by Dan Hood: 
Aww just blow it off. who cares what some blog jockey says.....

Back in 1990 when I was attending Brooks  ( yep I was a Brookie) one of my instructors made the comment to the class that to "make sure your 1st portfolio is made of soft leather with no sharp corners...... The reason is so when you are showing it to some Jr Art Director and they throw it back at you if it hits your chest it wont hurt as much "  Of course we all laughed because we knew he was speaking metaphorically about how hard the Advertising industry is to break into. Well after a few years of assisting in NYC and showing my food and still life book around to various ad agencies I came to the conclusion that Damn he was giving practical advice.  :-)

There is a reason why its called the ugly business of being beautiful. Oh the thing is the better you are the more people will talk shit on you behind your back.

It's like they say, If you want a friend in the advertising industry ....get a dog.

Besides it sounds like bullshit to me. If he is shooting for big budget clients why is he pissing about the fees. Those are between the client and the agency. Plus for smaller budget jobs almost all agencies will negotiate on price. Sounds like he isn't qualified to get a agency model and is just "pissing in the wind."  If he had any sense he would understand the dynamics of web modeling and agency modes. Nope he just sounds like he's some wanker.

I agree...I mean, I'm an average photographer and I find pretty hot girls on a regular basis...so if he's any good, he should have no trouble at all.  Either that I have low standards, but I like to think I know a good looking woman when I see one.

Posted by Sun Karma: 
Found this just wandering around on FG...then there was a link.

This is from a live journal.

LOLLERSKATES Jul. 30th, 2005 @ 03:07 pm 
vulgarcriminal

From a photographer's journal:

So I go to thru the agencies but those fuckers see the $$ in the client and start raising their prices-greedy motherfuckers- so I start doing web searches, which is the worst place to find models.
I also joined that modelmayhem site- I gotta tell you, looking for models on these things is like dumpster diving-you search search search and maybe come out with a half rotten slice of pizza.
Current Mood:  amused
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It is from netmodelreview...anyone care to leave a comment?
Here is the link.

http://www.deadjournal.com/community/ne … hahahhahaa

I hate to think of ourselves as half rotten slices of pizza. Although we have nothing to prove to this dipwad, it distresses me a little. Free speech, it is, but there is alot of talent on this site. Either someone was jealous or just picked one of those fake profiles that exist (as they all do) out there somewhere.

Oh well.
Back to coffee and looking at beautiful pictures of models on MM.

Sun

He's a poser.   Think small male parts need big car you understand the tortured boy's plight.

Posted by Aaron_H: 
Hmm, you guys are making all these comments about his work and the models he can get or that he shoots, but I don't think anyone followed the link to the full comments to even see who it is!

Seems to be that winkytikipinups guy that everyone seemed to praise so highly when his work was shown on a MM thread a while back: http://www.livejournal.com/users/winkyt … /3883.html

You may as well read the whole thing in context, "lollerskates" only quoted a portion of the whole thing and the damning commnets:

"Damit!
its finally done-all three hundred sixty something images for the book. Probably only about half will be used in the edit, but thats the way it goes I guess. Between having one of the busiest shooting months ever and late nights edting- I'm planning on getting outta dodge for a few.
Wait, now I gotta find a name for it-who the hell knows...how about just "book", I feel just as retarded as Tarzan naming his kid "boy".
I cant even stand looking at my photos.
I picked up a new client that will get me consistent work-West Coast Choppers, shooting girlies for their Sites and stuff. PArt of what I do is casting the models, which seems like an easy task at first, specially since the girls get paid somewhat decently for keeping their clothes on. I guess I was wrong-
This is turning into a project as Jesse has a particular idea of the kinda models he wants- Confident girls with an attitude, some ink and rock and roll vibe. Kinda like the SG type except better looking plus Im paying more-
So I go to thru the agencies but those fuckers see the $$ in the client and start raising their prices-greedy motherfuckers- so I start doing web searches, which is the worst place to find models.
I also joined that modelmayhem site- I gotta tell you, looking for models on these things is like dumpster diving-you search search search and maybe come out with a half rotten slice of pizza.
Half the girls are dumbass beach bunnies or import models or overweight goth girls-
argh...Or when I find the ones that meet the type, theyre a bunch of amateurs and can only shoot evenings and weekends. Like , Im gonna book locations and crew after hours just to accomodate them- goddam biznatch!
Fucking amateur hour! First model I book, gorgeous gal-but looked at me dumbfounded when I gave her the 8 am call time (it is a job after all)-the asked me when she gets the pics-how about I give you some pieces of paper with a picture of ben franklin on it, Dumbass...
Oh well, Gotta keep looking- Its actually easier for me to find a girl who'll stick a fist up her ass, do it with a smile, get paid and go home- The adult industry is such a comfort zone for me... The civilian world is far too flaky-
Off to my morning beer."

Thank you for posting that... people always do that half posting thing and it drives me nuts.

I think it's very low to post his personal journal rants on a model site.  He is very professional and has worked with tons of wellknown models all over the world.  His work is outstanding, creative and very well liked by many many people.  Sorry to tell you but this photography gig is very stressful sometimes and hey if he feels like he needs to get it out on his own personal journal, that's his business!  He's known for being witty and having a great sense of humor and if you did know him (which the friends on his journal do) then you would get a good laugh from his rant.  Do yourself a HUGE favor and  stay away from gossip sites, keep your nose clean and you will live a happy joyful life.  Don't take everything so personally. Just my 2 cents!

Viva

Posted by Sun Karma: 
After all of what I read, I thought it negative, and didn't go any further. Winkitinki goes some awesome shit..maybe it was just  frustration (as we all have) but it just startled me that such a general comment was being said.

You just don't know him... but trust me.. the five models/or friends on his "personal" journal know that he is a trip and writes things to make them laugh.  He sends me funny emails all the time.  There are two sides to every story and people dam "jump the gun" way toooo often.  He's just ranting in a funny sort of way.  I read rants everyday on those journals!  Anyways,  back to work. 

Posted by R0nni3: 
I agree - ignore him. I don't think any model with good sense would work with a turd like that anyway.

Oh really well he has already worked with every top fetish model, pin-up model, etc.   And we really like this Turd!!   Ignore him???  She's on his personal space not the other way around?  His work ROCKS!   Just one very good example here>

https://modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=42ee7e1e998b7

Posted by winkytiki: 
Viva-
you call THAT a good photo? I hope he didn't lose sleep planning that one out. That retro stuff is so not edgy..
I heard he also got her pregnant just so he can have the exclusive photo op. I read that somewhere on the internet where everything is TRUE.
Viva.love ya, come on over and Ill buy you a beer.

Now that is the best prego chic photo I have ever seen. Tats and all. I wonder if they stretched really bad after the baby?
Hmmm.
Did she eat alot of cold pizza too?

ROTFL.
Love your work.
sun

Posted by Louis Braga: 
I'll shoot a nice naked pizza tomorrow ,, BTW :-)

Photographers! They'll shoot almost anything naked.....LOL

Posted by DawnElizabeth: 

Posted by Louis Braga: 
I'll shoot a nice naked pizza tomorrow ,, BTW :-)

Photographers! They'll shoot almost anything naked.....LOL

I once shot a naked foot on the beach. Mine actually and by accident when I was checking how many frames I had left in the roll of film.

I felt bad looking at the image afterwards. Felt like I was exploiting it. One good thing though...I didn't get aroused. LOL *private joke private joke*

Posted by latex-fashions: 
BIG HINT

If the GWC who wrote is WAS A PRO he would NOT be looking for models.  He would be a HIRED photographer for who ever his Client is. 

Also you should  post the guys ID so all the models would know who NOT to work with.

BIG HINT, try reading the thread before posting next time!

A FEW MORE BIG HINTS, it's not unheard of to use street casting/real people in ads. It's not uncommon for photographers to either be responsible for or to help with casting for real jobs. It's not uncommon for pro's to do personal work, self produced stock shoots or shooting for their own books and self promo material, and to do the casting for any of those things, and not always through an agency. Lastly, not being a pro doesn't automatically make one a GWC, and being a working photographer doesn't automatically prevent one from being a GWC (although just for the record, my definition, and the one I'm familiar with in general photography circles outside of the net glamour world, is different than what most people here seem to think it means)

Posted by Sun Karma: 
After all of what I read, I thought it negative, and didn't go any further. Winkitinki goes some awesome shit..maybe it was just  frustration (as we all have) but it just startled me that such a general comment was being said.

Lesson to be learned here people… read ALL the words before you go off half cocked.
Dr. O is the most real deal stand up guy I’ve met in this pathetic town.
The fact that he is a straight shootin’ no bullshit talker is one of the things I love best about em’ 
Ask any Betty he’s shot or any flatfoot fotog who knows him and they will tell you they’d   go to the mat for em’ I don’t know anybody else I can say that about.  You guys crack me up! I feel sorry for y’all that don’t know him!

Posted by _VICTOR_: 

Posted by Sun Karma: 
After all of what I read, I thought it negative, and didn't go any further. Winkitinki goes some awesome shit..maybe it was just  frustration (as we all have) but it just startled me that such a general comment was being said.

Lesson to be learned here people… read ALL the words before you go off half cocked.
Dr. O is the most real deal stand up guy I’ve met in this pathetic town.
The fact that he is a straight shootin’ no bullshit talker is one of the things I love best about em’ 
Ask any Betty he’s shot or any flatfoot fotog who knows him and they will tell you they’d   go to the mat for em’ I don’t know anybody else I can say that about.  You guys crack me up! I feel sorry for y’all that don’t know him!

I love when he's in the photos....lol   Gotta love it!