Forums > Off-Topic Discussion > The need to bring Escorts

Model

Nicole Nu

Posts: 3981

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

troll https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iw5TaUpM1OI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABg/oWjr6XtVW8o/s120-c/photo.jpg troll your boat gently down the stream...

Apr 01 12 08:26 am Link

Photographer

Ryan South

Posts: 1421

Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US

Seriously folks, I have been bringing escorts to shoots and I'm a male photographer.  Though they might be skinny, take a sex-starved, drug-addled model with heavy eye makeup, put them in the same room as me and see what happens.   

Fashion Photographer wrote:

Your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries!

I fart in your general direction....

Apr 01 12 08:31 am Link

Model

F Escort

Posts: 20

Detroit, Michigan, US

Reflected wrote:

What I wouldn't do to your camshaft...  Ride you hard, mile after mile, stopping only to fill your tank again...OH!  You're a guy?!?   This never happened.

please, ride me hard.  I love it.  Thats why I'm here! 

I am the perfect escort, afterall.

Apr 01 12 08:32 am Link

Photographer

Wysiwyg Photography

Posts: 6326

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

Fashion Photographer wrote:
In a world of weapons, cameras, and foreigners, danger lurks everywhere.  It behoves us to protect the young women who would fall victim to it, by setting an example. We ought to insist that they take with them a full escort to every photo shoot.

I have started insisting that every woman bring an escort to shoot with a photographer - it's the right thing to do!

If a photographer doesn't allow escorts, he's up to no good.

You know better...
Take your trolling elsewhere.

BUT...

IN a world of weapons, models, muggers, and thieves, danger lurks everywhere. It behooves us to protect the photographers who fall victim to it, by setting and example.  We ought to discourage the mind set that escorts keep you safe and should teach them HOW to perform due diligence before every shoot.

I have started insisting that every woman learn to put big girl panties on and actually put that brain to the test.  - it's the right thing to do.

If a model needs an escort, she isn't professional enough to even think about working with. blah blah blah.

And.... ....... Done with this https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iw5TaUpM1OI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABg/oWjr6XtVW8o/s120-c/photo.jpg thread.

Apr 01 12 08:35 am Link

Photographer

henrybutz New York

Posts: 3923

Ronkonkoma, New York, US

Fashion Photographer wrote:
My other thread got locked so let's talk here.

Perhaps someone is trying to tell you something?

Apr 01 12 08:41 am Link

Photographer

291

Posts: 11911

SEQUOIA NATIONAL PARK, California, US

F llama herder wrote:
please, ride me hard.  I love it.

do you do tfp?  you know, time for parking or time on pavement?

Apr 01 12 08:47 am Link

Photographer

Brian T Rickey

Posts: 4008

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

Me thinks some need to read the entire thread and realize it's not 100% serious. 

and in other news....

Apr 01 12 08:53 am Link

Model

F Escort

Posts: 20

Detroit, Michigan, US

291 wrote:

do you do tfp?  you know, time for parking or time on pavement?

I do! 

Time for parking....cause I love to park...if you know what I mean!

ohhhh yeahhhhh!!!

Apr 01 12 08:55 am Link

Photographer

-Koa-

Posts: 5250

Castaner, Puerto Rico, US

I don't allow "escorts", but I do allow "guests". Yeah, I know. The way I see it, some may come for protection, others just out of curiosity or just for "something to do". It does not bother me.

The only thing I ask of the model in this regard is to let me know how many guests they will be bringing so I have enough food for everyone.

-Koa-
www.borikenwarrior.com

Apr 01 12 08:57 am Link

Model

modeled

Posts: 9334

San Diego, California, US

Yawn, before the lock

Apr 01 12 08:57 am Link

Photographer

Rays Fine Art

Posts: 7504

New York, New York, US

I just never shoot with models who are afraid of me.

Protects them.

Protects me.

Apr 01 12 09:06 am Link

Photographer

RacerXPhoto

Posts: 2521

Brooklyn, New York, US

Thank u Sir Mix a lot
https://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/internet_white_knight.gif

Apr 01 12 09:13 am Link

Model

Little Queenie

Posts: 6219

Indio, California, US

Fashion Photographer wrote:
In a world of weapons, cameras, and foreigners, danger lurks everywhere.  It behoves us to protect the young women who would fall victim to it, by setting an example. We ought to insist that they take with them a full escort to every photo shoot.

I have started insisting that every woman bring an escort to shoot with a photographer - it's the right thing to do!

If a photographer doesn't allow escorts, he's up to no good.

As opposed to a half escort, or a quarter of an escort?


Guy, you've been here long enough. Dead horse is dead.

Apr 01 12 09:18 am Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

I heard today was April 1st.

Apr 01 12 09:29 am Link

Model

Little Queenie

Posts: 6219

Indio, California, US

Good Egg Productions wrote:
I heard today was April 1st.

Yeah but you would figure FP is well versed in trolling and could come up with something more original.

Apr 01 12 09:32 am Link

Photographer

Fashion Photographer

Posts: 14388

London, England, United Kingdom

RacerXPhoto wrote:
Thank u Sir Mix a lot
https://images.starcraftmazter.net/4chan/for_forums/internet_white_knight.gif

Do you have any idea how hard it is to remove a chastity belt in the dark?

Apr 01 12 09:34 am Link

Photographer

Fashion Photographer

Posts: 14388

London, England, United Kingdom

F Escort wrote:

I'll be your escort!!  You'll never need another when you have me!

If you have two large airbags, I'll photograph you too!

Apr 01 12 09:35 am Link

Photographer

Sal W Hanna

Posts: 6686

Huntington Beach, California, US

Fashion Photographer wrote:
You clearly don't care about the safety of young women from peril.

roflol

Apr 01 12 09:36 am Link

Photographer

Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48041

Hollywood, Florida, US

Countdown till the OP is locked up for sexual misconduct in 3, 2, 1, ...

Apr 01 12 09:38 am Link

Photographer

Ryan South

Posts: 1421

Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US

Fashion Photographer wrote:

If you have two large airbags, I'll photograph you too!

nice

Apr 01 12 09:39 am Link

Model

F Escort

Posts: 20

Detroit, Michigan, US

Fashion Photographer wrote:

If you have two large airbags, I'll photograph you too!

I DO!

in my undercarriage!

Apr 01 12 09:43 am Link

Photographer

Stay Puft

Posts: 2413

Ofu, Manu'a, American Samoa

F Escort wrote:
I do! 

Time for parking....cause I love to park...if you know what I mean!

ohhhh yeahhhhh!!!

This reminds me that I need to grease my bearings.

Apr 01 12 09:45 am Link

Photographer

- Phil H -

Posts: 26552

Mildenhall, England, United Kingdom

F Escort wrote:

I DO!

in my undercarriage!

Given you now have an alternator bolted under your hood, does it mean you no longer need to plug into the mains?

Apr 01 12 09:47 am Link

Model

Edeline Wrigh

Posts: 178

Bloomington, Indiana, US

If I felt the need to bring an escort for my protection, they'd have to be more skilled than I am at kicking ass. I have experience in 7 martial arts. There are very few people that are more able than I am that I'd be open to asking... and most, if not all, are female.

If someone uses a gun, I'm probably not going to get far anyway... but neither is your standard escort.

If I'm locked in a tower, I think it's safer just to count on myself to get out of it. I know how to fall. wink

Apr 01 12 09:49 am Link

Photographer

Fashion Photographer

Posts: 14388

London, England, United Kingdom

Little Queenie wrote:

As opposed to a half escort, or a quarter of an escort?


Guy, you've been here long enough. Dead horse is dead.

Ordinary escort:
https://flipthatbird.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/muscle-man-bird.jpg






Full Escort:

https://sharing.krqe.com/sharewlin//photo/2010/09/16/Britain-Pope_Gree_20100916064359_640_480.JPG

Apr 01 12 09:57 am Link

Photographer

Fashion Photographer

Posts: 14388

London, England, United Kingdom

Edeline Wrigh wrote:
If I felt the need to bring an escort for my protection, they'd have to be more skilled than I am at kicking ass. I have experience in 7 martial arts. There are very few people that are more able than I am that I'd be open to asking... and most, if not all, are female.

If someone uses a gun, I'm probably not going to get far anyway... but neither is your standard escort.

If I'm locked in a tower, I think it's safer just to count on myself to get out of it. I know how to fall. wink

Don't you think it would be easier to just wait for someone to come and save you?

Apr 01 12 10:02 am Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 12067

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Fashion Photographer wrote:
In a world of weapons, cameras, and foreigners, danger lurks everywhere.  It behoves us to protect the young women who would fall victim to it, by setting an example. We ought to insist that they take with them a full llama herder to every photo shoot.

I have started insisting that every woman bring an llama herder to shoot with a photographer - it's the right thing to do!

If a photographer doesn't allow llama herders, he's up to no good.

You insist that every woman bring an llama herder to ALL shoots?  Or just to shoots with you?  And why do you feel that models who shoot with you are in danger.

I would argue that llama herders can be more dangerous, and unreliable:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/2603448

Apr 01 12 10:04 am Link

Photographer

Fashion Photographer

Posts: 14388

London, England, United Kingdom

Art of the nude wrote:

You insist that every woman bring an escort to ALL shoots?  Or just to shoots with you?  And why do you feel that models who shoot with you are in danger.

I would argue that escorts can be more dangerous, and unreliable:
https://www.modelmayhem.com/2603448

All shoots. They don't have to bring an escort to shoots with me, because if they encounter peril, I shall be there to face it for them.

Apr 01 12 10:08 am Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 12067

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

F llama herder wrote:
I'll be your llama herder!!  You'll never need another when you have me!

Fashion Photographer wrote:
If you have two large airbags, I'll photograph you too!

Gabby?

Apr 01 12 10:12 am Link

Photographer

Christopher Carter

Posts: 7777

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

https://mnemosyne.smugmug.com/photos/i-VhGDRqh/0/XL/i-VhGDRqh-XL.gif

llama herders rule, GWCs drool!

Apr 01 12 10:12 am Link

Photographer

Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

When I shoot in remote locations or possibly risky areas, I usually take an escort to be a look-out or to add to our strength in numbers. It's often another photographer but it could be anyone who's pleasant to have along.

That way, I can concentrate looking through my lens, rather than be distracted looking over my shoulder.

These precautions have been welcomed by the models I invite to join me.

Apr 01 12 10:17 am Link

Model

Bella la Bell

Posts: 4451

Kansas City, Missouri, US

DRImages wrote:

Ahh...my bacon and scrapple are safe. smile

Yes yes very safe. That stuff is gross. Give me a head of cabbage any day of the week with some quil and potatos. Nooommm.

Apr 01 12 10:21 am Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3971

Seattle, Washington, US

Fashion Photographer wrote:
In a world of weapons, cameras, and foreigners, danger lurks everywhere.  It behoves us to protect the young women who would fall victim to it, by setting an example. We ought to insist that they take with them a full escort to every photo shoot.

I have started insisting that every woman bring an escort to shoot with a photographer - it's the right thing to do!

If a photographer doesn't allow escorts, he's up to no good.

Troll. If a photographer insisted I bring an escort, I would cancel the shoot.  1.) It's just creepy.  2.) I don't like "escorts" any more than most photographers do. The idea of having somebody on the set, or even just "waiting" for me in the same location as the shoot makes me nervous.  3.) There is no need for an escort when working with reputable photographers who have good reputations.

Apr 01 12 10:29 am Link

Photographer

Abbitt Photography

Posts: 13564

Washington, Utah, US

The two assumptions that I continually see regarding llama herders that I've never seen backed up and would like to see support for are:

1. What evidence is there that photo shoots pose any more physical risk than the many other activities people often do without llama herders?

I meet women on dates one on one, in my office one on one, in isolated places of business one on one, frequently without them feeling a need for an llama herder. Other non-model independent contractors have come to my home. What makes me a bigger risk when I'm behind a camera?  Can anyone provide any statistics on how many murders or violent attacks happen at photo shoots versus other settings?


2. What's the basis for concluding that bringing another person the model knows increases overall safety?

If I'm a mad serial killer, wouldn't I just embrace a two for the price of one offer?   Driving to a shoot is probably much more dangerous than anything that happens at the shoot.  Doesn't having a second, unnecessary person in the car just double the potential injured victims in the event of an auto accident?  Can anyone provide any statistics about the rate of deaths, injuries or assaults that occur when two people go to a shoot vs. when only one goes?


There's very clear data that shows driving is dangerous and that texting while driving greatly increases this risk, yet many people do it.  What evidence is there that shoots are dangerous and that bringing anyone along makes them less dangerous?

Apr 01 12 10:39 am Link

Photographer

Stay Puft

Posts: 2413

Ofu, Manu'a, American Samoa

Screw the model. I'll just take my Escort Solo.

https://www.escortradar.com/img/solo-s3-intro_01.gif

Apr 01 12 10:40 am Link

Photographer

Christopher Carter

Posts: 7777

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

MelissaAnn  wrote:

Troll. If a photographer insisted I bring an escort, I would cancel the shoot.  1.) It's just creepy.  2.) I don't like "escorts" any more than most photographers do. The idea of having somebody on the set, or even just "waiting" for me in the same location as the shoot makes me nervous.  3.) There is no need for an escort when working with reputable photographers who have good reputations.

Just one more reason why the trip to Washington will totally be worth it smile

Apr 01 12 10:40 am Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3971

Seattle, Washington, US

Mnemosyne Photography wrote:

Just one more reason why the trip to Washington will totally be worth it smile

smile Well get your ass over here then.

Apr 01 12 10:46 am Link

Photographer

Christopher Carter

Posts: 7777

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

MelissaAnn  wrote:

smile Well get your ass over here then.

I'm trying.

Funny story. I have had 2 awesome models from Washington (not including you) express interest in working with me, and one of them even said she would host me if it helped smile

I love Washington smile

Apr 01 12 10:51 am Link

Photographer

Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Emma - O wrote:
Is this for real? Your thread got locked, AND you started a thread in another forum PURELY to get traffic to your original thread.

Mind = blown.

I heard there was some kind of White Knight competition. This is where the OP will make his case.  It's the annual spring competition sponsored by the White Knights of ModelMayhem.

Apr 01 12 12:18 pm Link

Photographer

Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

Alec Dealty wrote:
This reminds me that I need to grease my bearings.

Really?  Really??

You're just going to share this with the world???

Apr 01 12 12:23 pm Link