The Invisible Touch wrote:
My advice would be to learn how to use photoshop basics first!!

And from there before you start retouching, have a clear idea of where you want to take the image. In my opinion the colours are all over the place, skin is blurred and nothing appealing so maybe have a look in google for some basic retouching tutorials and take it from there.

Less is more!

Well I'm a graphic designer so i know pretty much all about photoshop/illustrator/indesign. I did watch some tutorials and thats how i learned to do what i did. I appreciate your opinion but i need you to be a bit more specific in order for me to learn from my mistakes.

Koray wrote:
what you have here is not a retouch yet

what exactly is a retouch? (if you dont mind me asking)

John Horwitz wrote:
you know NOTHING about those programs -

i may know nothing about retouching but i DO know about those programs. That's what i do for a living bud...

John Horwitz wrote:
OK - I'll be harsh...you know next to nothing about those programs and suck at retouching

i was looking at you portfolio and saying the same thing LMAO. You're the last person i need a crit from. At least the other too could teach me something. I've been doing this for 2 days. what's your excuse?

John Horwitz wrote:
I'm not the one who said he "Knows all about the programs"


& BTW "...the other too could teach me something." it's TWO...

Yea maybe you should stick to teaching grammar, because photography's not for you...

Roy Lett wrote:
I would go to the forum section here (MM) and hang out in the Digital Art and Retouching section reading and studying (I think that is the name off the top of my head). I would also look at retouching tutorials on YouTube and various other sites and try to bring yourself a bit more up to speed. Best Wishes!

thank you. will do

925 image wrote:
we all start somewhere, we should be constructive and helpful , my 2 cents..

Retouching is a poor career choice for you.

925 image wrote:
we all start somewhere, we should be constructive and helpful , my 2 cents..

i agree. that's all I want. Just wanna know what I should be doing better.

John Horwitz wrote:
You could start by being truthful about 'knowing' how to use the programs you mentioned. If you knew what they did you would be better able to use them. I believe you may know 'about' them but certainly not 'all about them'

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U still talking?

DJ Finn wrote:

what exactly is a retouch? (if you dont mind me asking)

A retouch improves the image. what you have up looks like playing around to me.

John Horwitz wrote:
BTW - I just contacted the orig. shooter to see what he says about your ability - this should be very interesting......................

i know i dont have retouching ability. That's why I'm practicing. If you read the original post, you'd see that it's my second time doing it. Stop trolling bro. You must be able to find something else to do with your life...

Euan Anderson wrote:
it all really depends what kind of retouch your looking to achieve.

if its a digi/manipulated images your on your way, if its high end fashion retouching you have a long way to go.

the main thing with fashion retouching (if that's what your looking to do) is it should be very subtle and look like you haven't done anything at all whilst correcting all the faults in the images.

the main issue in your image is the skin seems blurred and overly smooth, have you used a plug in or filter effect? if so don't! blurring looks cheap and doesn't print well. Plug ins are a bad habit to get into but because it's so quick, fact is, retouching takes time, if you get an image done in under 5 hours you're doing it wrong! take your time study the picture and go at it piece by piece.

The other problem with filters is they it don't actually sort the issues of spots and blemishes it just sheen's over them. Your models cheeks are still covered in spots - as i've mentioned the only way to retouch skin properly is with time, pick out the blemishes one by one and you'll have a much better image with intact skin textures ( i use the healing brush mostly, but that's not gospel).

hope this helps

thank you

John Horwitz wrote:
...and you might want to try it on your own work first
you are so Busted

John Horwitz wrote:
taking others work - no matter how noble the cause will get you into trouble, better hope the mods take pity and lock

DJ Finn wrote:
Well I'm a graphic designer so i know pretty much all about photoshop/illustrator/indesign. I did watch some tutorials and thats how i learned to do what i did. I appreciate your opinion but i need you to be a bit more specific in order for me to learn from my mistakes.

Couple things.

- If you have no retouching experience, you're almost guaranteed to lack a lot of knowledge, not only of certain functionality in PS you most probably dont use for graphic design (and acr, which is part of PS), but for sure the applications thereof.
I come from a design and even some retouching background (post work for cgi) and I learned a lot (and still am) by experimenting, from other people and sites like retouchpro and modelmayhem.

- Learning from youtube is tricky, since you have to know about retouching to learn about it..
Why? Because 90% is junk so you have to be able to weed that out (talking about 'retouching' tutorials, not ps tuts in general).

- You can start by doing some searching here (there's a search link above the forum and in every thread).

Search on MM (try searching for 'youtube channels' here as well, since you'll get the ones that are actually good).
https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/

I did one search for you
https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/?te … rt_order=0

Then when you've got some basic knowledge and a good share of practicing, consider retouchpro's webinars and dvd's like Gry Garness' one or the last 2 on www.digitalphotoshopretouching.com

For general tips and photomanipulation stuff, I'm kicking off a site (end of the month)
www.tasty-pixels.com

Robert LC wrote:
Couple things.

- If you have no retouching experience, you're almost guaranteed to lack a lot of knowledge, not only of certain functionality in PS you most probably dont use for graphic design (and acr, which is part of PS), but for sure the applications thereof.
I come from a design and even some retouching background (post work for cgi) and I learned a lot (and still am) by experimenting, from other people and sites like retouchpro and modelmayhem.

- Learning from youtube is tricky, since you have to know about retouching to learn about it..
Why? Because 90% is junk so you have to be able to weed that out (talking about 'retouching' tutorials, not ps tuts in general).

- You can start by doing some searching here (there's a search link above the forum and in every thread).

Search on MM (try searching for 'youtube channels' here as well, since you'll get the ones that are actually good).
https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/

I did one search for you
https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/?text=retouching tutorials

BorderlineBunny wrote:
P.S. NEVER blur the skin. That's how I used to do my retouching back in my major uneducated days, before doing some reading on industry standards. Blurring is damaging. Pores are good.

Thanks. I'll definitely take all that in to consideration. Like I said, I just learning so it's very humbling but I'm not too proud to ask for help. thanks once again

Koray wrote:
what you have here is not a retouch yet

+1