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John Horwitz
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Raleigh, North Carolina, US
Perry Gallagher wrote:
the flamers are usually the people who sadly have absolutely nothing better to do with their time, a very sad life. No doubt a very important distinction between flaming and complaining - and thankfully a PG comment!
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Farenell Photography
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Albany, New York, US
John Horwitz wrote:
Joel, it gets tiresome playing with you, and it's now dinnertime - so you will have to play with yourself ![https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/semi234/unfairwonka.jpg]()
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Rp-photo
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Houston, Texas, US
John Horwitz wrote:
I've moved to North Carolina & begun a teaching career I figured that would mean no more nude work.
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John Horwitz
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Raleigh, North Carolina, US
not sure how you figured that - ?
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John Horwitz
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Raleigh, North Carolina, US
A bit of clarification: If you would like to classify me; the correct term would be
MISANTHROPE (someone who dislikes other people and avoids involvement with society). The other day I was called a misogynist, that would be quite unfair to men.
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richsoansphotos
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London, England, United Kingdom
The problem is some websites don't have a telephone number(s), so would not touch them with a barge pole, it also could be a scam, this is a widespread problem. As much you can email them they can just simply ignore emails unlike a ringing phone.
I haven't done this before, but I think you can ask the website holder for more info
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John Horwitz
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Raleigh, North Carolina, US
Caller ID & voicemail have made hiding from unhappy customers way too easy with a phone, almost the entire US has both of those.
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Art of Vincent Wolff
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Wheaton, Illinois, US
ShootBare wrote:
Does this magazine still exist? Never received saubscription issues...can't reach anyone at the website. Anyone know anyone affiliated? I spoke to Carrie's husband yesterday, as my company used to offer NUDE. He reiterated that people owed refunds will get them, just email them. One person in this thread did so yesterday, he told me.
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John Horwitz
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Raleigh, North Carolina, US
Good - that wasn't too hard
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Art of Vincent Wolff
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Wheaton, Illinois, US
Vincent Wolff wrote:
I spoke to Carrie's husband yesterday, as my company used to offer NUDE. He reiterated that people owed refunds will get them, just email them. One person in this thread did so yesterday, he told me. I should clarify that, besides being a pinup artist, my day job for 18 years has been marketing director at a magazine subscription agency, and I am familiar with publications going out of business. Normally, publishers try to find similar titles to fulfill the balance of the subscription of the original title.
Carrie's husband, who is VP of NUDE, pointed out to me today that, because NUDE was so unique in content and print quality, it would be impossible to do that. Rather, he said, they are going to issue prorated refunds to anyone due any issues, because "it's the right thing to do. It just will take time."
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John Horwitz
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Raleigh, North Carolina, US
Could you please define 'Prorated'?
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Art of Vincent Wolff
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Wheaton, Illinois, US
John Horwitz wrote:
Could you please define 'Prorated'? 'prorated' means publishers issue refunds for undelivered issues of the subscription term, i.e., subscriber receives 9 issues of a 12 issues subscription, refund will be for 3 issues.
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John Horwitz
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Raleigh, North Carolina, US
Sounds reasonable - and I think between you, him & the managing editor on here it will be done well, there are too many eyes on this for this to continue badly.
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Art of Vincent Wolff
Posts: 2925
Wheaton, Illinois, US
John Horwitz wrote:
Sounds reasonable - and I think between you, him & the managing editor on here it will be done well, there are too many eyes on this for this to continue badly. I'm not involved with management of NUDE at all....our agency offered the title until last year, and for full disclosure, my artwork was published in NUDE.
This decision was made by Carrie and her husband. They are nice people, and I applaud them for doing this.
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John Horwitz
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Raleigh, North Carolina, US
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Maxximages
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Los Angeles, California, US
Vincent Wolff wrote:
I should clarify that, besides being a pinup artist, my day job for 18 years has been marketing director at a magazine subscription agency, and I am familiar with publications going out of business. Normally, publishers try to find similar titles to fulfill the balance of the subscription of the original title.
Carrie's husband, who is VP of NUDE, pointed out to me today that, because NUDE was so unique in content and print quality, it would be impossible to do that. Rather, he said, they are going to issue prorated refunds to anyone due any issues, because "it's the right thing to do. It just will take time." It was the right thing to do 2 years ago.
I emailed we will see.
I do thank you for your efforts
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Risen Phoenix Photo
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Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
As a fine art photographer who would have loved to grace the pages of this fine magazine I am saddened to hear of their problems. I bought the magazine each time I could find it on the news stands.
I have never seen people who were bitching about a few dollars they lost because of the magazine having to stop publication
What you should do is STAND UP AND CHEER for their effort, their quality and the guts it takes to try something and take the risk.
Carrie, and all the people who were part of her team should stand proud. Sure who wouldn't be upset that they wern't getting issue but WTF shit happens. Do you think they got rich over not sending you the mag.... I am sure they have lost almost everything and that closing wasn't done to hurt people, their customers.
Consider you subscription as an investment, in a tough market publishing what we like high quality nude magazine of fine art images.
What you should be pissed about is Playboy... have you seen the quality of that magazine or Penthous, Husltler and all the other porn that is out there trying to pass themselves off as quality. Barnes and Noble is full of shit passed off as men's interest and books stores who stopped carring Carrie Leigh's Nude or Australian Black and White magazine should be ashamed.
Come on whiners get past that and continue to take a chance on those who are trying to publish high quality fine art.
Have you even tried to by a photobook at Barnes and Noble? Almost impossible unless your Ansel, Jock or Anne....
Carrie et al .... You go Girl
Risen Phoenix
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Art of Vincent Wolff
Posts: 2925
Wheaton, Illinois, US
Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
As a fine art photographer who would have loved to grace the pages of this fine magazine I am saddened to hear of their problems. I bought the magazine each time I could find it on the news stands.
I have never seen people who were bitching about a few dollars they lost because of the magazine having to stop publication
What you should do is STAND UP AND CHEER for their effort, their quality and the guts it takes to try something and take the risk.
Carrie, and all the people who were part of her team should stand proud. Sure who wouldn't be upset that they wern't getting issue but WTF shit happens. Do you think they got rich over not sending you the mag.... I am sure they have lost almost everything and that closing wasn't done to hurt people, their customers.
Consider you subscription as an investment, in a tough market publishing what we like high quality nude magazine of fine art images.
What you should be pissed about is Playboy... have you seen the quality of that magazine or Penthous, Husltler and all the other porn that is out there trying to pass themselves off as quality. Barnes and Noble is full of shit passed off as men's interest and books stores who stopped carring Carrie Leigh's Nude or Australian Black and White magazine should be ashamed.
Come on whiners get past that and continue to take a chance on those who are trying to publish high quality fine art.
Have you even tried to by a photobook at Barnes and Noble? Almost impossible unless your Ansel, Jock or Anne....
Carrie et al .... You go Girl
Risen Phoenix Well said
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unbearable lightness
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New Buffalo, Michigan, US
Nyx Valentine Photo wrote:
Personally, if I were Carrie Leigh, I would ask that both Joel and UL stop posting. This sort of conversation doesn't make a bad situation any better, and while I think people posting here were originally fairly ambivalent about this, all that these posts serve to do is make NUDE look bad. People have a legitimate concern and complaint, and being dismissive, rude, and condescending doesn't inspire anyone to defend the magazine, especially if this is how its representatives treat paying customers. Maybe you need to consider this for rudeness: Model Claims Website Hushed Up Rapes, April 30, 2012 http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/04/30/46067.htm
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John Horwitz
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Raleigh, North Carolina, US
...anyone get a refund yet?
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Farenell Photography
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Albany, New York, US
John Horwitz wrote:
...anyone get a refund yet? ![https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/semi234/not_this_shit_again.jpg]()
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Joel Adams
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Burbank, California, US
John Horwitz wrote:
...anyone get a refund yet? LOL... John must really miss going round with me because we already know that in Carrie Leigh's post on the magazine's website about this, it said "Over the next few months".
Some people just can help trying to stir things up, and that is all your post was.
Later dudes
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Art of Vincent Wolff
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Wheaton, Illinois, US
Joel Adams wrote:
LOL... John must really miss going round with me because we already know that in Carrie Leigh's post on the magazine's website about this, it said "Over the next few months".
Some people just can help trying to stir things up, and that is all your post was.
Later dudes +1
Really, if anyone who reads this post has an issue with a refund of service, they should be contacting the magazine, and not posting here.
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Jhono Bashian
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Cleveland, Ohio, US
i'm sure if you send the $995.00 for a set of pictures they will take your money.
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Ashley Graham
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Saint Petersburg, Florida, US
John Horwitz wrote:
...anyone get a refund yet? Why are you so upset about this? Starting to seem more like a personal vendetta than anything.
I have no idea what happened, nor do I care, but sometimes life gets in the way and things fall through the cracks. It seems like they're trying to pick up the pieces and fix the problem so good for them
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Skydancer Photos
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Santa Cruz, California, US
 Moderator Warning! John Horwitz wrote:
...anyone get a refund yet? John, you've already been brigged once for trolling and disrupting this thread. If you are having issues getting a refund, we suggest you take it up with the magazine.
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