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$100 an hour. What a friggin joke. Right?
Just wanted to see if ANYBODY in their right mind pays any internet model their asking price of $100 an hour? Oh I know that there are a lot of GWC'S who want to see a girl or any girl naked and they will pay that kind of money. But are there any for real photographers who will pay that kind of money to any model on the net? Yea I really want to know. bs Aug 16 05 09:27 am Link Well from my own experience and location .. No i have not paid a model in about eight years unless it was for a shoot that a client was paying for and even then the most that has ever been paid to a model was $45 an hour. But that's all my own experience. Chet Aug 16 05 09:53 am Link Well...that's the usual price for artistic nude models, most of the times. At least in NY. Tito Trelles Aug 16 05 09:58 am Link Nope, I paid three models when I first started out, and thats because i had no portfolio at all and I had to get started somewhere but never a 100. Aug 16 05 10:00 am Link There may be some models worth paying that for, but not many. Course my favorites, while on the subject, are the new models with nothing in their portfolios that want $100, $150 an hour. What planet are these models from??? Aug 16 05 10:02 am Link PDXImaging wrote: The same planet as the ones who have absolutely no experience but say they are available for nude modeling. lol Aug 16 05 10:07 am Link bobby sargent wrote: I know of one in AZ. who gets $150/hour for nude modeling. Aug 16 05 10:08 am Link My first paid modeling job I asked for $75 an hour. It's was nude modeling, currently on my portfolio. But I also had to travel 6 hours both ways and I paid for my own gas. As it turned out I enjoyed working with him so much that I offered to come back and do two more sessions for free. He was thrilled by this, he got a free model that he enjoyed using. I got a great photogrpaher that I love to work with. In the end sometimes it can even itself out. But, yes, there are some girls on here that I can't help but laugh at when I view their inflated rates. Aug 16 05 10:18 am Link Interesting question Bobby. I have to agree, though now I've seen rates of 125/hour for casual and up to 250/hour, 2 hour minimum for up to playboy style. Again, not a lot of experience. Other than through self satisfaction(GWC syndrome), how on earth would you recover that kind of capital outlay? 500 for 2 hours of shooting. Even if you were shooting porn, I doubt a 2 hour shoot could net you $500 in sales to the web sites, let alone covering costs. Or is the price that high? (Don't know, don't shoot that stuff). I shoot some product, mostly corsets, cinchers, etc. for a company, but about all the market will bear is 50/hour. So far, I've had good models that are happy with that rate, plus a corset. Andy's theory is that internet models ask this, get the GWCs/perverts/molesters hiring them, have all kinds of problems, but figure if the morons will pay, then real photographers should be willing to pay even more. haha, real photographers have to pay bills. I wish digitial cameras had never been invented, then the GWC's/perverts/molesters could go to their titty bar and drop their 500 and photography would be a cleaner business. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Aug 16 05 10:22 am Link You get what you pay for. Aug 16 05 10:25 am Link C R Photography wrote: I agree. T Aug 16 05 10:31 am Link It would depend on the project, I normally if I am doing a paid shoot, will pay a model out at $20 and hour, most of my shoots are only 2 possibly 3 hours long (depending on day, setting etc, etc). I would say depending on the professionalism of both photographer, and the model sometimes you will pay the $100, but in most cases (unless its nude work or the like) you can negotiate, an amount that would be benficial to both photographer and model (also helps to keep your pocket book from hurting) And CR Photo is right, you get what you pay for. Aug 16 05 10:32 am Link It's called haggling - Set your price high and meet the photographer somewhere in the middle. Listen, someone out there will bite and pay their fee. With websites like OMP and MM the whole modeling game falls prey to the law of supply and demand, both with photographers and with models. There so many good/great models/photographers that are looking for TFCD shoots, so why bother with the $150 an hour ones? Don't get me wrong - there are some great models asking very reasonable rates, and if you're looking for something specific it's definitely worth it to go to a pro. Just keep in mind that a high hourly rate does not a model make. Aug 16 05 10:36 am Link C R Photography wrote: Not always - there's nothing stopping Helen Couchpotato from creating a profile on MM and posting her webcam shots with a $200 an hour rate. It's all about common sense. Look at the models portfolio. If she's got amazing shots, she's probably worth it. Aug 16 05 10:38 am Link Andy Meng wrote: I know models in the adult business side that will do UK£350 / about US$500 for a WHOLE day rate (8 hours) and they are doing full sex on camera stills+video for that. Aug 16 05 10:42 am Link There are only three models who I would pay $100/hr, and all three are on MM. I have paid that in the past for models with well developed ports with photos superior to what I can provide, but my usual rate (when I pay at all) is much less. I only pay for nude work in any case... I do think it's hilarious when I see brand new models asking $100/hr and up, and wonder if they actually get that much or if they're inflating the rates to look more "professional." I had one girl with webcam images tell me her rate was $200/hr. When I was done laughing, I told her good luck with her "career." Most would probably consider me a GWC (though any model I've worked with will tell you I'm not a perv), so maybe I'm proving the rule rather than challenging it. Aug 16 05 10:53 am Link $100.00 an hour doesnt sound like much to me. Doing my makeup and hair, finding an escort, Driving to some strangers studio, taking my clothes off for a stranger, trying to look comfortable with stranger shooting me, knowing what the photos will probably end up in some weirdos bath room....putting my stuff back in the car and driving home, owing escort god knows what for protecting me from the potential rapist/ serial killer/GWC. Sorry, I don't get where this is too much? please note the attempt at humor, I'm not talking about any of the extrememly talented photographers here...just talking in general LOL! Aug 16 05 10:56 am Link Being as that I don't yet sell any of my images I don't pay models anything. I 'might' pay $20 if a model is REALLY good and somehow worth my while. However I've done in my opinion fantastic work with tfp models. Aug 16 05 11:03 am Link more power to them, if the models can get $150 per hour, let em get it.. its not like im paying them... Aug 16 05 11:07 am Link I've not paid anyone in quite some time (several years at least). When I was first starting out I had to pay models as I had no proof that I wasn't just some pervert to take their photos in my place of residence. Most of the men and women I've worked with are new, and don't understand the whole art nude modeling thing but also want to do other stuff and can't afford to pay photographers (or so they say). Usually I'll work out a trade deal of some headshots and/or some casual stuff to get them started and they'll do the art nudes in trade. If they have a problem showing their face I won't show it and prefer to shoot in abstract anyway. But yes, no way bobby am I paying 100 bucks per hour for art nude models with no experience and no images. that's like me paying a model to teach her how to do her job. Aug 16 05 11:09 am Link Paul Ward wrote: I have found some Calif. fine art models who will work for $150 A DAY. Aug 16 05 11:14 am Link Mary wrote: I don't disagree. I wouldn't perform that service for $500/hr. if I were a young girl (I'm not using the word 'model', notice). Aug 16 05 11:15 am Link John Allan wrote: I think you're right. What do we call the model equivalent to a GWC? Aug 16 05 11:17 am Link MWB Model Wanna Be Hehe..... Aug 16 05 11:19 am Link I think I made a funny.....LOL Aug 16 05 11:20 am Link Mary wrote: Mary, it's about economics. Maybe 100/hour doesn't sound bad to you, but if you're getting paid 100/hour, the images produced need to be worth 100/hour just for said "photographer" to break even, and realistically double that as an average return. Aug 16 05 11:22 am Link As much as I am enjoying to low cost of shooting digital, I agree with you. It was a lot easier for me as a part-time photographer to get good-paying jobs when there was a film/processing expense involved in taking pictures, and to a degree you got what you shot and not what you can do in PS. Andy Meng wrote: Aug 16 05 11:22 am Link DawnElizabeth wrote: You did make a funny. MWB!! I'll remember that Aug 16 05 11:23 am Link there are some outrageous misconceptions of the adult industry and how the economic dynamics of that industry work. it is a $10 billion dollar a year industry... the money is real, and if you want some you can basically just go get it. don't worry why a "gwc" would pay a model $100 per hour for nudes. many of you are under the notion that he's paying her out of his own pocket... probably not. don't hate the player hate the game! Aug 16 05 11:33 am Link C R Photography wrote: Absolutely you get what you pay for. If you are doing web work or whatever and you want a classy look with good looking models that know what they are doing in my opinion, the time you save by hiring a professional model is well worth it. Time is money because I have so little to spare I need to get as much work done as I can. I guess it comes down to if your just in it for the hobby or the money, a good investment allways tends to sting the pocket up front but the later benefits are well worth it in the end. I would not pay a model unless I had a way to recoup my investment and then some. You should ask for a day rate to get the best deal. Day rates are good for both the model and the photog. You get more for your money and the model makes a little more for her time. If a model travels to a shoot it kills the whole day for them if they travel very far. Aug 16 05 11:34 am Link I have almost 6 yrs experience. I get $75-$100 hr for Fine Art Nude work. Thats the current going rate. YES people are paying that. Its called - making a living. Aug 16 05 11:40 am Link All of my work is done TFP/CD, but I can think of three or four models I would pay that much...Those models have a lot to offer though. I'm very fortunate that many models who should be paid have agreed to work with me TFP. Aug 16 05 11:45 am Link bobby sargent wrote: wow a DAY? how much stuff could someone possibly shoot in a day unless it was for a commercial client or a high end fashion job? Aug 16 05 11:46 am Link ClevelandSlim wrote: Actually, the part of this about the 'GWC' not paying out of his own pocket, is almost assuredly incorrect. The 'GWC' paradigm is not the adult paradigm, it's more like the stripper paradigm... Aug 16 05 11:50 am Link I'm not sure I would pay $100 an hour for stills. The porn industry is real and we know where the money is not going.... The movie companies are making the money, same as the music industry, same as girls gone wild and the playboy models. If the model is getting rich it's from some sort of side hustle. At $100 an hr for 8 hours a day = $800 for 40 hours a week = $3200 for 12 months = $153,600.00 a year. The majority of members on this site probably doesn't see that much a year on a regular 9 to 5. Some of us see half, other dream of landing a $20 an hour job, while the rest struggle to make ends meet. When I get ready to pay a model for guaranteed results, her per hour rate will be the starting point, we negotiate down from there. I've seen images in some models ports before I worked with them, then I've worked with them and thought to myself, how the hell was that photographer able to get "that" from you??? When and if you're getting ready to pay a model to shoot, you'll have a talk and the smart thing to do would be to negotiate the full shoot, not on an hourly basis. I'm not the smartest dude on the planet but I know a little something about a lot of things and when talking with new models, sometimes they don't have the slighest idea on how to conduct "business" and when you start talking business with them, the whole situation changes. I can pay you by the hour, that means you're my employee for the day, let's fill out the W4 forms and I'll give uncle sam his cut of your money and mail your check at the end of the week. Oh you're an independent contractor, which means you carry insurance and you have a tax ID number? A lot of people don't really wanna do business, they just want to get paid for a hobby they love doing. Which are you? Aug 16 05 11:56 am Link I'll pay the 100.00 for two reasons: Firstly, they can never come back and say that I was somehow unfair in my dealing with them. Secondly, it makes the shot pure business, its not two people having fun and you can demand more professionalism from them. Aug 16 05 11:56 am Link markcomp wrote: i guess i can count myself lucky that i've not had that kind of problem. i can count the amount of flakes (no shows) on one hand. Aug 16 05 12:01 pm Link John Allan wrote: i'm not worried about the gwc title, it has never applied to me. i've been shooting for almost 5 years, with a camera set to auto. my clients never complain and often RAVE about the end result. i had a client that their order called for about 100 pics, and 19 minutes of .avi video (enough for a single layer dvd) of the chic shaking a relatively large ass, totally non nude. the chic/model was getting $200 and the shoot would take approximately 2 hours. the client was paying me $600 for the package, and he had exclusive rights to it. i have shot over 30 models for this client in the past 2 years. Aug 16 05 12:04 pm Link Andy Meng wrote: There were GWC's well before digital cameras. Photoshop might be a bigger problem. With it, GWC's can fix mistakes they made with a camera & make women think they know what they are doing with a camera Aug 16 05 12:22 pm Link A hundred an hour is possible depending upon the level of modeling being accomplished. Nudes, yes. Lingerie, maybe. Swimwear, I'm thinking not. Casual, they must be dreaming. And no, you don't always get what you pay for. Do you think some Webcam WBM can hit the right poses for the 100 an hour that someone with years experience can hit? It takes research and more. You can find someone with what you feel is a perfect look for your shoot, and your willing to pay the price. They arrive and are Satan personified. All they do is complain about everything, and the shots end up looking worse then your 3 year old messing around with a Transformer one time use camera. On the other hand, you could find your "dream muse" for 20 bucks an hour. You never know what your going to get, regardless of what you pay. And yes, I will pay a model for a shoot. Normally only if we work lingerie or nude work. Aug 16 05 12:23 pm Link |
