Forums > Model Colloquy > What's the etiquette with mobile phones on shoots?

Photographer

Llobet Photography

Posts: 4915

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

I dance to ringtones. smile

Oct 19 12 06:51 pm Link

Model

Calypso Moon

Posts: 848

Banning, California, US

My phone is always on silent during a shoot.  I will check it briefly during breaks or set changes, but not every time.  If I'm supposed to be changing clothes, I change clothes, and don't goof around in the dressing room.

Oct 19 12 07:03 pm Link

Model

A M Y B

Posts: 127

Providence, Rhode Island, US

BlueMoonPics wrote:
I dance to ringtones. smile

Mine is Baby Got Back, when are you free? smile

Oct 19 12 07:29 pm Link

Photographer

Llobet Photography

Posts: 4915

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

A M Y   B wrote:

Mine is Baby Got Back, when are you free? smile

*Turns on Barry White voice*
For you, babe, I'm always free. wink

Oct 19 12 07:56 pm Link

Photographer

Simply Ridiculous

Posts: 58

Portland, Oregon, US

If it becomes a problem say something. problem solved.

Oct 20 12 02:15 am Link

Photographer

PR Zone

Posts: 897

London, England, United Kingdom

Weird

30 to 8

Model's area of the forum, question asked about models and phones on set

30 photographer responses to just 8 model responses

:-)

Oct 20 12 02:54 am Link

Photographer

Four-Eleven Productions

Posts: 762

Fircrest, Washington, US

PR Zone wrote:
Weird

30 to 8

Model's area of the forum, question asked about models and phones on set

30 photographer responses to just 8 model responses

:-)

Make that 31 counting you.

So? Your conclusion?

Oct 20 12 03:06 am Link

Model

Charlottte

Posts: 44

London, England, United Kingdom

I always have my phone on silent and I only check it when we're on a break etc. I don't understand why people its acceptable. What if a photographer grabbed his phone, didn't pay full attention and starting texting/calling etc? As a model how pissed off would you be?

The only exception to this I think is when you're trying to arrange travel, for example getting picked up after. But then again, I've done this after the shoot or during a break and it hasn't caused an issue.

I can't believe anyone would find that acceptable. You, whether you're a photographer, model or MUA are there for a reason, and if you're not going to do what you're there for and would rather play about on your phone, then I don't think you're worth the time and effort of everyone else.

Epic rant!

Oct 20 12 03:39 am Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

James Sioux wrote:
About emergency calls: How would you know if it's an emergency call unless you pick up the phone?  If you're expecting emergency calls, then maybe you shouldn't shoot at all during those times.  Emergencies are unexpected.  So if someone "expects" an emergency call, it's not logical.

Because you tell people not to call unless it's an emergency...?

Oct 20 12 12:26 pm Link

Model

J Jessica

Posts: 2431

Coconut Creek, Florida, US

Many photographers have kept their phone ringers on during our shoots.
I don't mind.

My own phone is usually on vibrate during shoots or during college class.

Oct 20 12 12:40 pm Link

Model

Figuremodel001

Posts: 342

Chicago, Illinois, US

Blue Ash Film Group wrote:
Taking cell phone pictures is probably as big of a problem as people talking on the phone. I just had a bad experience on a film shoot I was booked as the stills shooter in Hawaii. The MUA came out on set and kept taking cell phone pictures, many times getting in the way of my shot. I kept trying to hint to her that was bad set etiquette, and I was getting mad at the director for not saying anything (I don't mind if the MUA takes a cell pic in the makeup dept when she finishes on an actor). Finally, one time we were trying to finish the scene quickly and the director said, "we have to move fast, we are losing light" and she said, "Hold on, I want to take a few pictures". I then said, in an assertive voice, I will take the photos and if you want one I will email it to you. She then had the nerve to tell the talent and other crew how pushy I was.

Life is full of experiences, congrats on getting this one out of the way. Bet you try to work with that MUA whenever possible.

Oct 20 12 03:38 pm Link

Photographer

Orca Bay Images

Posts: 33877

Arcata, California, US

J Jessica  wrote:
My own phone is usually on vibrate during shoots

Why? Are you going to stop and check to see who's calling in the middle of the shoot?

Oct 20 12 03:51 pm Link

Photographer

TerrysPhotocountry

Posts: 4649

Rochester, New York, US

Turn them off during a photo session. If your not involved in the photo session its okay to have yours on!

Oct 20 12 04:06 pm Link

Model

J Jessica

Posts: 2431

Coconut Creek, Florida, US

Orca Bay Images wrote:

Why? Are you going to stop and check to see who's calling in the middle of the shoot?

No, but I like the sound it makes.
smile

Oct 20 12 05:06 pm Link

Model

Goodbye4

Posts: 2532

Los Angeles, California, US

Checking briefly during a break is acceptable if the client or photographer is ok with it. Being glued to your phone is not okay and not professional. It should be on silent.

If you have to leave it on for emergency purposes (or you have kids, etc) that's fine but just let the client/photographer know. There are perfectly necessary reasons that some people might have to leave their phone on but be professional about it and don't use someone's time to gab for the sake of it.

Oct 20 12 05:11 pm Link

Photographer

alessandro2009

Posts: 8091

Florence, Toscana, Italy

Rays Fine Art wrote:
no problem with a model calling someone before we begin to say "I'm here," and at the end of the shoot to say "I'm leaving," especially if it's the first time we've worked together.  It strikes me as a good security measure and certainly not insulting since I usually shoot just one on one and don't allow escorts.

+1

While for the rest of the shoot i like the cell put on silent mode.

But i don't like much the use of the phone during the breaks ..., since it can interrupt the concentration, also suppose it is an emergency message, obviously would send upstream the rest of the work, but did not solve anything.
So first, the job done, without distractions, second the rest.

While i have no issue on the use of the cell during breaks when is a TF*.

Oct 21 12 01:13 am Link

Model

Magda Kulpinska

Posts: 688

Paris, Île-de-France, France

Ithink it all depends.

As a model, when you arrive at 10am for a 9pm show you thank God for mobile internet and text.

On a shoot I keep it on silent, and I discreetly check in breaks (our job does involve availability and a fast reply has gotten me a confirmed last minute booking many times).

If I'm waiting for an urgent call or if I have to make one at a certain time, I do tell the team beforehand.

Oct 21 12 12:15 pm Link

Photographer

Orca Bay Images

Posts: 33877

Arcata, California, US

During the breaks, the model can be as indiscreet with the phone as she wants. It's not taking her out of the shoot. It's not taking her out of the mood, at least no more than taking a pee or drinking a soda during the break would.

But during the shoot? Phones go off or in silent mode. I've shot with girls whose phones were buzzing or playing annoying ringtones every minute or so and the models' faces often went from being in the shoot to she's dying to check the phone. Never again.

Oct 21 12 12:29 pm Link

Model

KaliChaos

Posts: 294

Plymouth, England, United Kingdom

natural beauties of qld wrote:
This may be a generational thing, but I don't take, much less make, phone calls during shoots.

However, this view does not seem to be universal.  How common is it to attend to a mobile phone during a shoot and how acceptable is it to do so?

I bring my phone to a shoot, although it stays in my bag/coat. It is only braught in the case of an emergency. If someone like my family need to get a hold of me because something has happened then they can. Although my friends and family understand that they do not call or text me between the hours that I'm working.

In fact most wait for me to text them letting them know I'm not shooting any more before contacting me...

As long as it isn't intrusive then I don't see a problem. Although if a model or even the photographer keeps taking/making calls during the shoot I would get annoyed and probably mention it to them. It can be rude if they keep checking it, let alone texting/calling people.

Kayz

Oct 21 12 12:33 pm Link

Model

Christina Josephine

Posts: 121

Warsaw, Indiana, US

I would never attend a business meeting with the intention of making or taking phone calls or texting. It not only shows a lack of respect to the meeting organizer, but a general lack of focus in regards to the subject of the meeting.

The same should apply with non-traditional business meetings such as photo shoots. Being professional is just as important to the mood as wardrobe and facial expression is. If you're making your business partner feel you are not fully interested in what you are doing: they will feel the same.

Oct 24 12 09:48 am Link

Model

DarcieK

Posts: 10876

Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

I always take my phone with, but have it on silent or vibrate. I will check it on breaks, but that's about it.

If it is an emergency, they can leave a voicemail as I check those the instant I see they are there.

Oct 24 12 10:33 am Link

Photographer

Photo Lolz

Posts: 525

New York, New York, US

If the model paid, then she/he can take calls.  I won't add extra time to the shoot though.

If the MUA paid, then she/he can take calls, same story.

If I pay, I take calls, and same deal.

If it's trade, I tolerate it up to a point.

Oct 24 12 10:47 am Link

Model

Dea and the Beast

Posts: 4796

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

James Sioux wrote:
No phone calls or texts during a shoot.  Check your messages or make phone calls during break.  This goes for the photographer too.  Also, when I talk to the model regarding the shoot, or poses or shoot-related issues, I expect 100% attention.  I will end the shoot and send her home if models disregard these basic etiquette. 

About emergency calls: How would you know if it's an emergency call unless you pick up the phone?  If you're expecting emergency calls, then maybe you shouldn't shoot at all during those times.  Emergencies are unexpected.  So if someone "expects" an emergency call, it's not logical.

Yes it is. Well, in so much context. My father in law is terminally ill, and I can't just not work for two months until he's in the ground. So I'll be leaving my phone on, in case my husband or the nurse calls.

I will text that I have arrived on location and I may or may not check for messages during a break, but other than that I concur, it's distracting, rude and just unnecessary.

Oct 24 12 12:20 pm Link

Photographer

IMAK Photo

Posts: 537

Eureka, California, US

Blue Ash Film Group wrote:
Taking cell phone pictures is probably as big of a problem as people talking on the phone. I just had a bad experience on a film shoot I was booked as the stills shooter in Hawaii. The MUA came out on set and kept taking cell phone pictures, many times getting in the way of my shot. I kept trying to hint to her that was bad set etiquette, and I was getting mad at the director for not saying anything (I don't mind if the MUA takes a cell pic in the makeup dept when she finishes on an actor). Finally, one time we were trying to finish the scene quickly and the director said, "we have to move fast, we are losing light" and she said, "Hold on, I want to take a few pictures". I then said, in an assertive voice, I will take the photos and if you want one I will email it to you. She then had the nerve to tell the talent and other crew how pushy I was.

Is that how you ended up injured?

Oct 24 12 12:33 pm Link

Model

charvisioku

Posts: 61

York, England, United Kingdom

I'd just assume I was expected not to check my phone constantly during a shoot. As for answering a call... I'd never do that unless the person chain-phoned me, in which case it may be an emergency and I'd ask to be excused for a minute. But I'd have my phone silenced - vibrate probably - and wait until set changes/breaks.
It is pretty rude to just take a call in the middle of a shoot - I wouldn't walk out of work to take a call so I don't really see how a shoot is any different.

Oct 24 12 03:01 pm Link

Photographer

ArtisticGlamour

Posts: 3846

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Christina Josephine wrote:
The same should apply with non-traditional business meetings such as photo shoots. Being professional is just as important to the mood as wardrobe and facial expression is. If you're making your business partner feel you are not fully interested in what you are doing: they will feel the same.

This. Even during set changes or short breaks I find it rude to be glued to your selfphone. It shows that you are not fully focused on keeping the "energy" of the shoot flowing.

I like a model that is so into the collaboration that the energy and ideas about the shoot continues to flow even during the breaks and set changes. Perhaps a quick check of messages (esp if you have kids in school or whatever) during your wardrobe change would be okay if it's not "in my face" rude.

If you don't care enough to focus and collaborate instead of texting your BFF or SO...then I will quickly lose interest as well. And, good "chemistry" is what makes or breaks a shoot.

Oct 25 12 09:12 am Link

Model

Jerica Truax

Posts: 27

Seattle, Washington, US

I put mine on silent when shooting. If there's a break and I'm waiting, I might check for texts or take a pic and post it or something but that's about it.

Oct 25 12 09:30 am Link

Model

Christina Josephine

Posts: 121

Warsaw, Indiana, US

ArtisticGlamour wrote:

This. Even during set changes or short breaks I find it rude to be glued to your selfphone. It shows that you are not fully focused on keeping the "energy" of the shoot flowing.

I like a model that is so into the collaboration that the energy and ideas about the shoot continues to flow even during the breaks and set changes. Perhaps a quick check of messages (esp if you have kids in school or whatever) during your wardrobe change would be okay if it's not "in my face" rude.

If you don't care enough to focus and collaborate instead of texting your BFF or SO...then I will quickly lose interest as well. And, good "chemistry" is what makes or breaks a shoot.

Exactly smile nice to see someone on the same wavelength. Cheers:)

Oct 25 12 08:15 pm Link

Photographer

ArtisticGlamour

Posts: 3846

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Cheers! smile Here's to focused collaboration!

https://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/champagne_glasses.jpg

Oct 25 12 08:58 pm Link

Model

Christina Josephine

Posts: 121

Warsaw, Indiana, US

ArtisticGlamour wrote:
Cheers! smile Here's to focused collaboration!

https://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/champagne_glasses.jpg

Where's the tequila wink

Oct 25 12 09:09 pm Link

Model

Miroslava Svoboda

Posts: 555

Seattle, Washington, US

Why haven't I ever pondered upon this subject? hmm, oh wait, it's because it has never been a problem. I don't even have to turn my phone off, people know not to call me and if they missed that memo they know not to get pissed that it's ignored.

Oct 25 12 09:21 pm Link

Photographer

ArtisticGlamour

Posts: 3846

Phoenix, Arizona, US

ArtisticGlamour wrote:
Cheers! smile Here's to focused collaboration!
https://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g461/TyPortfolio/champagne_glasses.jpg

Christina Josephine wrote:
Where's the tequila wink

Even BETTER! Now you're really talking my language! wink

Oct 26 12 10:01 am Link

Photographer

Ashes to Ashes

Posts: 3784

Norway, Maine, US

keep it on for emergency calls...do not text or make calls (unless an emergency) during shoot. That simple.

Oct 26 12 10:55 am Link