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Paparazzi Killed Trying To Snap Justin Beiber Car
Jan 02 13 02:39 am Link So, if I'm understanding this right, the photographer was alive and well until he followed the cop's orders? Jan 02 13 02:50 am Link Kaouthia wrote: I did not see that in the article Jan 02 13 03:17 am Link In Balance Photography wrote: I did: Jan 02 13 03:30 am Link He said it again in the video. Jan 02 13 03:31 am Link Yes, let's blame the cop. Jan 02 13 03:45 am Link ASYLUM - Photo wrote: Yes - let's... Jan 02 13 03:54 am Link ASYLUM - Photo wrote: Why not? Apparently the police didn't have adequate control of the scene. Let's face it the city and or police department is going to get sued. Jan 02 13 03:55 am Link Kaouthia wrote: Had the photographer followed the first orders, he might have been alive and no story. Forcing the police to repeat the orders concluded in the photographer's death. You can spin it the other way as well. Jan 02 13 04:05 am Link studio36uk wrote: Great idea. Have the police shoot disobeying photographers' kneecaps and then drag them to safety. That places the police in adequate control of the situation. Of course the UK bobbies might need to bash some kneecaps with their nightsticks. Jan 02 13 04:09 am Link photo212grapher wrote: If he was breaking no laws by being where he was and doing what he was doing (I don't know that he was or wasn't), why should the police have made the order in the first place? photo212grapher wrote: Of course. Jan 02 13 04:26 am Link OK... I know you guys are wanting to ask this question, but are waiting for someone else to step up to the plate... So... What kind of gear was he carrying and was it damaged? Jan 02 13 04:40 am Link Maybe he wasn't doing anything illegal, but no one was arresting him, either. He was just told to go over there. Maybe the cop was aware that the little tone deaf runt was recently the target of a supposed "hit" and was just making sure he was safe. The paparazzo just made a poor decision afterward. One of the first things we all learn as children is "look both ways before crossing the road," right? Definitely a stupid and tragic way to die, but blaming the cop is pretty lame. Jan 02 13 04:42 am Link Sam Comer Photography wrote: Don't get me wrong, the photographer still well and truly deserves a Darwin Award, and I've nothing against cops (my brother in law is a cop in Boston), but a polite request is very different from an order. Jan 02 13 04:53 am Link Moral of the story.... If a cop tells you to do something... it's usually best to do what he says. After all, he's the one with the gun and the badge. Jan 02 13 04:57 am Link The shooter made a mistake, maybe he will learn form it in the next reincarnation if he is not a lower form of life. Jan 02 13 05:49 am Link ...the next male model I get that has a Justin-mop-head is gonna get attacked with a set of sheep shears...and to the unlucky photog that ended up as road kill...look right, then left and then right again... Jan 02 13 06:13 am Link fullmetalphotographer wrote: Exactly... and about being 'a lower form of life'... from some of the paparazzi I've met... that's a compliment. Will the police get sued for causing this guy's death? You may see some bottom feeding attorney try... but it will get tossed outta court after the on scene testimony from the officer above... Jan 02 13 06:15 am Link photo212grapher wrote: Actually, that may not have been a lawful order. Police often give unlawful orders. I once had a police officer ask to see the pics in my camera taken in a public place. Without a search warrant, not only is that not allowed, it is a felony. Jan 02 13 06:26 am Link PTPhotoUT wrote: had that happen a few times... im in brooklyn, ny. and quite often ill be out and about taking photos. a bird or something, and building security will bother me, call the cops and say im taking photos of a building im not allowed to... had a cop tell me i had to delet a photo... i simply said, its viewed from public and im legally allowed to photograph it, you, or anyone/thing on the street. he said well i have to see the photos. i said you can when i edit and publish them and walked away and went about my day. Jan 02 13 06:42 am Link PTPhotoUT wrote: That was kinda my point too. If he was breaking no laws by being where he was and doing what he was doing, was the order given lawfully? Jan 02 13 07:38 am Link PTPhotoUT wrote: Asking is not an order. Ordering and taking the camera from you is. The police know to ask permission, and most people willing give it. Asking is perfectly legal. No different than me coming over and asking to see the images. Jan 02 13 08:01 am Link it is not necessary for you to be committing a criminal offence for the police to have the right to ask you to do something (move away, dont get closer, etc etc). it is part of their duties. I've sued the police more than once for exceeding their jurisdiction, showing off in front of a junior at my expense, etc. so let it be clear that I'm not a rabid fanboy. But those who suggest that the police have no right unless he was committing a crime leave me shaking my head. Jan 02 13 08:03 am Link He was killed because he failed to look for traffic while crossing the street. Being a Pedestrian 101. Rule 1: Look both ways before crossing the street We learn it in grade school. Some people are slower learners then others. Jan 02 13 08:24 am Link Kaouthia wrote: I didn't get the impression he was killed because of any order to leave. Nor was he photographing the cops doing their job. He was trying to get a shot of Bieber and knowing the Paprazzi, was probably too close and asked to move back...just as any bystander would be. Jan 02 13 08:38 am Link Actually, I think it is illegal to stand in the middle of an open, active freeway. Of course the police are going to order him to go back to his car - he was creating a hazard on a public roadway by standing in the middle of it. If he parked his car completely off the roadway and was standing completely off the roadway - then he WAS breaking NO laws...but it sounds like he WAS standing in the roadway. Otherwise, how did he get hit? If he had been taking pictures while standing on the shoulder of the road, then he could have returned to his car by walking on the shoulder and not be in danger of being hit. From the photos, it appears he was near the middle of the road when he was hit. Let's place blame where it belongs - the police were simply doing their jobs, they are NOT to blame...the blame is squarely on the photographer who was in the middle of a freeway like an idiot and got killed for his stupidity. Yes, there are bad apple cops, but most of them are simply human beings like you and me, just trying to enforce the law. They are not monsters out to put down the rest of us. Most of them are trying to do the right thing by everyone. What kind of world would this be if there were NO cops to enforce the laws? They are simply enforcing the laws that we all created. Jan 02 13 08:40 am Link L Bass wrote: No, the moral is you always do what the guy with the gun says. The alternative is also listed in the article. Jan 02 13 09:18 am Link Gary Melton wrote: Nowhere in the article did it say he was standing "in the middle of an open, active freeway". Sure he probably had to run across it (evidenced by the fact that he had to run back over to the other side of it to get back to his car when he got hit), but when he was ordered to leave, was he in the middle of the road? Or was he safely off the side of it? Jan 02 13 09:21 am Link Kaouthia wrote: The way I read it : Jan 02 13 09:22 am Link besides, who the f*** wants to photograph Justin Bieber anyway? Jan 02 13 09:30 am Link Steven Bodo wrote: They do it to sell photos and make money!! Jan 02 13 09:48 am Link Steven Bodo wrote: Exactamundo!! Jan 02 13 09:58 am Link Steven Bodo wrote: Exactly. Or his $200,000 car??! Out of all the $200,000 cars I have ever seen, that is one of the ugliest. I wouldn't pay more than $100,000 for it. It's an embarrassment to the Ferrarri name. Jan 02 13 10:09 am Link I knew that guy. Sad... he was a good kid, not an in your face type shooter, liked long glass and to stand off at a distance. Jan 02 13 11:22 am Link Steven Bodo wrote: Jerry Nemeth wrote: Sadly, true. Jan 02 13 12:27 pm Link RKD Photographic wrote: Doesn't matter and it's irrelevant in this issue. Jan 02 13 12:41 pm Link yep Jan 02 13 12:58 pm Link LOL gotta love the Model Mayhem lawyers & social pundits. The whole thing is unfortunate...but people like that are a part of the entertainment industry "machine". They are employed in private and dissed in public...funny how they always know when certain celebs are "somewhere" accessible. Anyway..nobody is getting sued because of a certain phrase in the law "but for your actions". He placed himself in that location and accepted the risks that come with stalking people. Now here we are. The policia can ask you to leave any location if you are creating an issue. Jan 02 13 01:02 pm Link Those of you wanting to blame the cop...or ask 'why not blame the cop?' you really need your heads checked. The next time you stop on a busy freeway to take photos of some damn celeb or car...you LOOK for traffic. You're not in a freaking parking lot. Some of you on MM I swear. Jan 02 13 01:10 pm Link Steven Bodo wrote: Exactly! He would still be alive today if he wasn't so hard up to take a picture of this over rated piece of garbage. I think the Kardashians and him have finally taken over Oprah as the most over publisized people in the world today. They must spend millions to have their crap put in our faces every minute of everyday. Jan 02 13 01:13 pm Link |