Garry k wrote:
We are still not even clear if the OP is searching for a Fashion Model , Glamour Model , Commercial Model , Art Model etc ( or maybe just a pretty face or body ) In each genre there are different levels of skill , experience , ability and professionalism...

I am not sure exactly what genre of model you are or why you refer that genre as being "low lifes "

Myself as a photographer I enjoy working with all genres of models ( excluding bondage ) and while I do shoot some agency models I also shoot a lot of non agency models for which I find MM to be quite helpful in connecting with such models

for example I would never have met or shot with 2011 Italian Playmate of the Year Lauren Vicker ( before she reached that glory ) if not for MM

To me a model is a model. I don't see any models on here referring to themselves as "fashion model". I also don't see any models that only tagged "fashion" in the list of genres they are available for. All models tag multiple genres.

I'm sure Lauren Vicker does fashion shoots as well.

Rieni Otten wrote:
To me a model is a model. I don't see any models on here referring to themselves as "fashion model". I also don't see any models that only tagged "fashion" in the list of genres they are available for. All models tag multiple genres.

I'm sure Lauren Vicker does fashion shoots as well. I shoot erotic and fetish content with models who also shoot fashion. Pornographer Pierre Woodman did a lot of fashion shoots with both porn and fashion models for various fashion and lifestyle magazines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Woodman

"Woodman continues to work in the fashion world, doing photo-sessions for big-name magazines (Blast magazine cover and layout Sept. 2006) and discovering fashion models from his castings. Some of his fashion models have gone on to join some of the top modeling agencies, such as Alla Krivocheeva for Elite or recently one of the finalists for Miss Hungary 2005."

thats great

You and Woodman , hmmm

my suggestion though is that if you wish to discuss  porn that you start your own thread

Colorado Model Amber wrote:

Sorry "a bit high for a MM Model" lol what exactly does that mean? That made me laugh like no Model on this site is worth being paid 150$ an hour.

To the OP this decision is clearly up to YOU.

It was pretty clear to me.
And yeah, the ones in that range are rarified air on MM.

Garry k wrote:

thats great

You and Woodman , hmmm

my suggestion though is that if you wish to discuss the porn that you start your own thread

+1

(Hell froze over 3 times in this thread)

Cherrystone wrote:

+1

(Hell froze over 3 times in this thread)

this "hell " you keep referring to ...

Is it your own personal hell , something more general or

are you just starting to see the light

Garry k wrote:
thats great

You and Woodman , hmmm

my suggestion though is that if you wish to discuss  porn that you start your own thread

Sorry dude I thought it was relevant! Just wanted to say that there's something like crossover.

Garry k wrote:
We are still not even clear if the OP is searching for a Fashion Model , Glamour Model , Commercial Model , Art Model etc ( or maybe just a pretty face or body ) In each genre there are different levels of skill , experience , ability and professionalism...

I am not sure exactly what genre of model you are or why you refer that genre as being "low lifes "

Myself as a photographer I enjoy working with all genres of models ( excluding bondage ) and while I do shoot some agency models I also shoot a lot of non agency models for which I find MM to be quite helpful in connecting with such models

for example I would never have met or shot with 2011 Italian Playmate of the Year Lauren Vicker ( before she reached that glory ) if not for MM

Just curious - though I don't do it myself - why every model bar bondage?

Well it is just the general feeling I get from some - not you necessarily - that unless we are Agency we aren't worth paying. But yes thanks for saying that MM can be quite useful because many of us have the feeling that a lot of photographers are down on us. Hence my low life quote as we do get put down a bit if we are non agency here while in 'real life' we don't. Errr...yeah I get dragged into these conversations via my batphone by others

But yes that was my point: we don't know what the op is after; and we should answser a question objectively without bringing into questioning what would be best for him personally because that involves critique.

The Op asked if the model quoting $150 an hour was worth it - and we don't know. I am just answerring from the avaergae models' perspective of why we can justify that though have always pointed out you'd get us all day for not much more.

And I must say...kudos to you on the testimonies about both models you have cited.

Sierra McKenzie wrote:
100/hr seems typical for full-time professional freelancers.

That would be about the top I've paid ... and that is with someone who does work similar to you.  The summary of this thread could be that it's all negotiable.   And if two people don;t come to a agreement, then move on to someone who will.

Laura UnBound wrote:

You can buy a kia for a lot less than you can buy a porsche for. Im sure they both run. If youve GOT enough for a porsche and you WANT the porsche...why buy the kia? Because someone else tells you its stupid to buy the porsche?


*I* think he should just send his $150 to me...thats some good decision making, if Im deciding what other people should do with their own money.


Y'all love to undercut the models as if its your money someone else is giving away. Theres nothing poor about his decision making if HES comfortable paying the amount the model is asking for, and SHE is the model he wants to shoot.