Miss Vixxen wrote:
My partner doesn't like me doing lingerie let alone topless xD haha but yeah i'd like to show off my tats more but i think i'll be heading towards the more pin up type tattoo shoot's than anything else More family friendly i guess

That's the problem with alt models now.  They aren't alt anymore, just sheep following the tattoo heard. Growing up in functional families and acting out trying to find an identity in the world. True alt models don't take shit from anyone.

sdgillis wrote:

Miss Vixxen wrote:
True alt models don't take shit from anyone.

BAM!

sdgillis wrote:

That's the problem with alt models now.  They aren't alt anymore, just sheep following the tattoo heard. Growing up in functional families and acting out trying to find an identity in the world. True alt models don't take shit from anyone.

Probably a little extreme. IF people choose to adhere to their partners comfort that's their business. Yes, it's true that we don't take shit from anyone, but I don't go out of my way looking for it either. Life's too short and I've had my fair share of it. I'm keeping my ears to the ground, and I've been doing pretty well

Fera Ferocis  wrote:
I agree. Nudity doesn't bother me much at all, topless is totally fine, most of my work lately, the paid work included, has been implies at its most riske, otherwise its been underwear etc. So I'd actually like to do more nudes haha. But its a fine line

Nude is a long ways from porn, or it can be.  Here's a shot of mine from last weekend.  Plenty of tattoos, fully nude, but far from porn. (18+)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8540/8609 … d53a_o.jpg

Art of the nude wrote:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8540/8609 … d53a_o.jpg

Love that photo!!

BodyartBabes wrote:
I know people don't like to hear this, but I'll put it in this thread once.

The more ink you have, the harder it is to get work.  I've watched models end up quitting after getting a quarter sleeve because their work just dropped off.

The more your ink clashes with the clothing, the artists views, the point of the image, etc, the less work there will be.  You've made your "statement" but not everyone wants to keep repeating your statement.  Artists want to make THEIR statement, and as a model that is your role.   As an inked model, you've taken a path where images are of _YOU_ and the photographer is essentially making portraits, not "art" where you can be any woman.  Your ink brands you.  It's like taking a picture of a sign, or of someone elses picture.  It's not the photographer/artists image any more.  It's been taken over.

This is why many end up in "porn" where all they want is a body, doesn't matter what kind really. 

It's also why so many do nude, since at least there is less clash with the clothing.

If your ink goes under your clothes, not doing nudes is like the photographer cutting off legs, or hands, or such.  It makes the image incomplete, as people start to wonder what the rest of the ink looks like, not the image itself.

Just remember. ink is a choice.  But any choice limits other choices. 

But, I really haven't seen a model get MORE work because she got more ink.   And, since there are thousands and thousands (Millions??) of inked girls, finding one or two who got popular sort of proves the whole rule.   I have seen them get less work and retire dozens and dozens of times.

The successful ones have sold their personality, ability, and cooperation rather than their ink.  They've been available, and have had to go out of their way to be available when other people aren't.   

Most jobs are local, so getting in good with your local market is important.  Regular work is important.  But if you tap out the local market, or the local market isn't interested, you have a serious up hill battle.

The more you become a product, the less you become an an abstract prop. 

If you are to the celebrity point, you can make it on that.  But otherwise, there is a limit to how many times people will work with you because the images have limited appeal.  No matter what the photographer does, the ink makes it an image of YOU, not something more generic, abstract, or broad.

You made your statement.  But the artist wants to make theirs.

I hope this makes sense.

Scott

Great responce. Our community here is an artisitic (or suppose to be) one, and it is loaded with tatted pin up gals.......sadly all but a few are just copy cats of each other and losses that My Own Thing intent.

If not shooting grundge or similar, really do not want to see the tats. Nothing like putting a model in a 2/300 outfit and then seeing it offset by tats! NOT!

To each their own however.

BodyartBabes wrote:
I know people don't like to hear this, but I'll put it in this thread once.

The more ink you have, the harder it is to get work.  I've watched models end up quitting after getting a quarter sleeve because their work just dropped off.

The more your ink clashes with the clothing, the artists views, the point of the image, etc, the less work there will be.  You've made your "statement" but not everyone wants to keep repeating your statement.  Artists want to make THEIR statement, and as a model that is your role.   As an inked model, you've taken a path where images are of _YOU_ and the photographer is essentially making portraits, not "art" where you can be any woman.  Your ink brands you.  It's like taking a picture of a sign, or of someone elses picture.  It's not the photographer/artists image any more.  It's been taken over.

This is why many end up in "porn" where all they want is a body, doesn't matter what kind really. 

It's also why so many do nude, since at least there is less clash with the clothing.

If your ink goes under your clothes, not doing nudes is like the photographer cutting off legs, or hands, or such.  It makes the image incomplete, as people start to wonder what the rest of the ink looks like, not the image itself.

Just remember. ink is a choice.  But any choice limits other choices. 

But, I really haven't seen a model get MORE work because she got more ink.   And, since there are thousands and thousands (Millions??) of inked girls, finding one or two who got popular sort of proves the whole rule.   I have seen them get less work and retire dozens and dozens of times.

The successful ones have sold their personality, ability, and cooperation rather than their ink.  They've been available, and have had to go out of their way to be available when other people aren't.   

Most jobs are local, so getting in good with your local market is important.  Regular work is important.  But if you tap out the local market, or the local market isn't interested, you have a serious up hill battle.

The more you become a product, the less you become an an abstract prop. 

If you are to the celebrity point, you can make it on that.  But otherwise, there is a limit to how many times people will work with you because the images have limited appeal.  No matter what the photographer does, the ink makes it an image of YOU, not something more generic, abstract, or broad.

You made your statement.  But the artist wants to make theirs.

I hope this makes sense.

Scott

Many photographers are interested in me due to my tattoos, and I do just fine. They're beautiful, I feel beautiful with them, and it adds something special. Photographers love this, and the pay is good

Fera Ferocis  wrote:
Many photographers are interested in me due to my tattoos, and I do just fine. They're beautiful, I feel beautiful with them, and it adds something special. Photographers love this, and the pay is good

Wasn't the point of your OP that you're finding so few avenues because of your tattoos and that it's limiting your work?

But as soon as someone broached the idea that tattoos could, in fact, be a limiting factor, your response was that you're in great demand and have no problems finding work.

Umm...ok.

BodyartBabes wrote:
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The more your ink clashes with the clothing, the artists views, the point of the image, etc, the less work there will be.  You've made your "statement" but not everyone wants to keep repeating your statement.  Artists want to make THEIR statement, and as a model that is your role.   As an inked model, you've taken a path where images are of _YOU_ and the photographer is essentially making portraits, not "art" where you can be any woman.  Your ink brands you.  It's like taking a picture of a sign, or of someone elses picture.  It's not the photographer/artists image any more.  It's been taken over.
...

Scott

This is a really eloquent explanation of why photographers (those who aren't specifically after shooting tattoos) are progressively less likely to utilize a tattooed model, the more visible her tattoos are.

sdgillis wrote:
That's the problem with alt models now.  They aren't alt anymore, just sheep following the tattoo heard. Growing up in functional families and acting out trying to find an identity in the world. True alt models don't take shit from anyone.

Wanna do alt work without the nudity? Cool. Stock up on BADASS alt and pinup wardrobe. Buy high end corsets. Buy custom, badass latex pieces. Buy bordellos. Buy ballet heels. Be prepared to spend a fuck TON of money.

That's how it works.

Red Sky Photography wrote:
Whatever a model changes will limit her ability to work some shoots and will increase her desire ability for others. I wouldn't advise a model to get tattoos to enhance her chances at booking work, but I do look for tattooed models more than for non tattooed models. Do what pleases yourself in life, room for everyone in modeling.

Well said! Thank you, thank, thank you.