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Hello I have a question to everyone who is familiar with suicide girls and have worked with them or know anyone who worked with them. Pretty much I have been thinking of modeling for them but the only reason why I haven't applied is because I don't want to take my sweet time filling out paper work and sending my document to them just to be told at the end that I won't e accepted fully as a model. Well what I want to know basically is it worth trying? And what are pros and cons of it. Well that's all and thanks for taking your time to read this.  Apr 13 13 05:00 pm Link Suicide Girls has a committee that does the final approval of models to become Suicide Girls, but the primary way to get accepted is to have a set with generally a minimum of 97% love. Your activity on the site and comments you receive on sets are also part of the equation. It's definitely not an easy task having your sets purchased. Even some approved Suicide Girls who have been around a while have sets that aren't purchased. Many of the models take those sets down and sell them on Zivity. I don't have any knowledge about Zivity though. Suicide Girls sets all have a similar style/look to them. If your photographer isn't up to snuff, it's practically impossible to sell a set. I've been a regular member there for years and have a few friends who model for them. I've never done photography for a set though. They also have Suicide Girls approved photographers if you are lucky enough to have one in your area. Apr 13 13 05:08 pm Link I think accounts for "hopefuls" are free for a limited period of time too if you want to check it out. Don't quote me on that. They were free the last time I checked. Apr 13 13 05:15 pm Link Thank you for replying to me I'll keep it in my mind Apr 13 13 05:26 pm Link Miss Gothy wrote: Are you on Facebook? Most of the Suicide Girls are also on there and quite a few wouldn't mind answering more specific questions. Most are very friendly. Apr 13 13 05:28 pm Link Here is a link to the 'forum search' option on MM - https://www.modelmayhem.com/sitesearch/forums Type in 'Suicide Girls' I would recommend reading a couple of the longer threads that appear. You might also want to consider contacting some current and former suicide girls, they will be able to give you a better insight into how they choose their girls I don't know many who are active on this forum to help you.Apr 13 13 05:29 pm Link Yes, I do have a Facebook Ill look through it to see if I can find someone to ask question too. Thanks again. Apr 13 13 05:30 pm Link Evie_Wolfe wrote: Thanks for the the help I was looking through some and there more cons than pro Apr 13 13 05:35 pm Link Miss Gothy wrote: It certainly seems that the opinion on this site sways that way, yes. Apr 13 13 05:42 pm Link Evie is right. Your best information will come from the models...past and present. You can easily find most of them on Facebook like I mentioned. Apr 13 13 05:53 pm Link The OP doesn't do nudes. SG - REQUIRES - nudes. Studio36 Apr 13 13 06:26 pm Link studio36uk wrote: Didn't see her mention that anywhere. I thought it was obvious they require nudes. Apr 13 13 06:34 pm Link studio36uk wrote: Oh yes, I see - having said that, saying 'no' to the nudes option on MM doesn't necessarily mean that Ms Gothy isn't open to doing nudes at all, I suppose. I didn't know SG requires nudes (thought I will admit to my knowledge on the site being greatly limited), I thought it was just expected if you wanted to make money from it. Apr 13 13 06:42 pm Link Yeah I wasn't going to do nudes just for anyone but SG has there own professional photographer so I was considering it to be a starter for me but I'm re thinking of it. I did research and seem like its still more cons  Apr 13 13 06:51 pm Link Miss Gothy wrote: That is understandable, it is a big step for any model especially a new one, and it is good that you're thinking about it as regards what you want from the experience Apr 13 13 06:58 pm Link You've been on this site since November and still have no professional photos posted yet. Perhaps you should do a few shoots to get your feet wet and develop a presence in front of the camera before going through the application process. Your chances of being accepted might increase. Apr 13 13 07:04 pm Link F-1 Photo wrote: +1 Apr 13 13 07:09 pm Link one suggestion. It seems like you are looking for a way to not go through with submitting to SG, yet you seem very interested in them. The old saying "you don't know unless you try" comes into play too. I'm not saying to do anything that doesn't make you comfortable, but sometimes you have to go knocking on the doors of the gate keepers and kick them in if you want something bad enough. I have personally found that the more that I look for pro's and con's instead of simply trying, the more I procrastinate and opportunities slip away. Like Evie mentions, it is a big step for a new model, but everyone starts somewhere. Asking others if you might get accepted or not (including former/current SG models) is not going to give you a definitive answer also. You will gain valuable information on the submission process to give you a heads up on what you might go through, but no one can give you the answer of if you will or will not be accepted unless you submit and get the answer from the horses mouth (the panel). So if you are interested in trying, maybe find a photographer who's work is up to par with SG and that you admire, and open a channel of discussion too to give it a shot. good luck Apr 13 13 07:10 pm Link Will Snizek wrote: studio36uk wrote: Didn't see her mention that anywhere. I thought it was obvious they require nudes. Read her profile Apr 13 13 07:12 pm Link F-1 Photo wrote: Actually I was thinking the same. The main reason why I haven't shot is because I haven't really been able to get online till recently and most messages I got were from December and January. Anyways thanks Apr 13 13 07:18 pm Link Will Snizek wrote: That's interesting considering the SG owns the copyright at the point and time of submission. They obtain that from the photographer not the model. And, even if they didn't / don't the model has no inherent right to submit, much less sell, the images elsewhere unless they are licensed to use the images. A submission to SG that SG chooses not to use doesn't establish such a license. Apr 13 13 07:20 pm Link studio36uk wrote: Not true. They only own copyright on sets they pay for. You can remove any set after its been in Member Review for 90 days and hasn't been purchased. Apr 13 13 07:43 pm Link regarding zivity, any zivity member (including myself) can give you a 30-day free trial. if you can get a set approved (to date all of mine have been approved although only a couple got to be an "editor's pick") within your trial period then you are a member and don't need to pay any dues. some of the more popular models are able to make a few hundred a month. self-shot sets are allowed. Apr 13 13 08:33 pm Link I'm not sure about SG but I haven't heard good things about their contracts, and in fact if you google them they have been sued by a number of their own models but I can't recall why. My friend Luci was one in 06 and is still on the site just less active. I think they had a bad reputation at first because of how strict the contracts were compared to other alike sites. but do your research before you get into it, not just on here but use google and yahoo to your advantage as well as asking members, you can find luci on facebook Apr 14 13 02:12 am Link Apr 14 13 02:16 am Link Will Snizek wrote: I don't give a s**t what their FAQ says. The FAQ is at direct odds with the written assignment of ALL RIGHTS that the photographer is REQUIRED TO SIGN. The model is completely out of that loop. The rights to the images are NOT cycling through the model's hands. The model has no say in it and the model is NOT obtaining any rights themselves by way of that agreement. It is strictly an agreement between the photographer and SG. [in part - emphasis is mine] Nothing there that makes the assignment conditional on acceptance of the photos only "after member review". There is a payment clause in the agreement and so the photographer will have been paid with a short term subscription to the SG site as set out. 3. Consideration. Subject to Photographer’s fulfillment of Photographer’s obligations herein, SG shall provide Photographer with a free three (3) month membership to the SG website upon the full execution of this Assignment. Will Snizek wrote: The photographer HAS BEEN PAID IAW "3. Consideration." They are explicitly agreeing that they have been fully compensated. There is absolutely no provision agreeing that SG will pay the photographer anything else, in any form, or any cash money at all, at any time in the future. Nothing! Apr 14 13 03:42 am Link studio36uk wrote: Guys, you mean singular, right 36? Apr 14 13 04:30 am Link Cherrystone wrote: studio36uk wrote: Guys, you mean singular, right 36? "you guys" = a literary device = if the shoe fits = if you are making these bogus claims. It is not meant to be all encompassing, but it's plural because he is certainly not alone. Apr 14 13 04:45 am Link studio36uk wrote: Cherrystone wrote: studio36uk wrote: Guys, you mean singular, right 36? "you guys" = a literary device = if the shoe fits = if you are making these bogus claims. It is not meant to be all encompassing, but it's plural because he is certainly not alone. You're trying to claim SG owns the copyright to images before they are even purchased. The contract for the images is only finalized when a set is purchased. What sense does that make and why would they even purchase sets if they already own them? It's a very common practice to withdraw sets after 90 days and shop them on other sites. Believe what you want though. Lol Apr 14 13 10:00 am Link Will Snizek wrote: studio36uk wrote: Cherrystone wrote: studio36uk wrote: Guys, you mean singular, right 36? "you guys" = a literary device = if the shoe fits = if you are making these bogus claims. It is not meant to be all encompassing, but it's plural because he is certainly not alone. You're trying to claim SG owns the copyright to images before they are even purchased. The contract for the images is only finalized when a set is purchased. What sense does that make and why would they even purchase sets if they already own them? It's a very common practice to withdraw sets after 90 days and shop them on other sites. Believe what you want though. Lol How many sets have you shot for Suicide Girls Mr. Snizek? When was the last time you have a through look over their policies and contracts? Apr 14 13 10:07 am Link Paige Morgan wrote: Will Snizek wrote: studio36uk wrote: Cherrystone wrote: studio36uk wrote: Guys, you mean singular, right 36? "you guys" = a literary device = if the shoe fits = if you are making these bogus claims. It is not meant to be all encompassing, but it's plural because he is certainly not alone. You're trying to claim SG owns the copyright to images before they are even purchased. The contract for the images is only finalized when a set is purchased. What sense does that make and why would they even purchase sets if they already own them? It's a very common practice to withdraw sets after 90 days and shop them on other sites. Believe what you want though. Lol How many sets have you shot for Suicide Girls Mr. Snizek? When was the last time you have a through look over their policies and contracts? And what exactly is your experience with Suicide Girls again? Thought so. Apr 14 13 10:10 am Link Paige Morgan wrote: Apparently, SG is also a great way for shorter models to earn money without getting naked... Apr 14 13 10:11 am Link Miss Gothy wrote: OP .......Jojo is our contest admin, a super awesome person, and as I recall did a good bit of work for SG.....maybe you should send her a polite note? She'd probably have the best answers to your questions: Apr 14 13 10:11 am Link Will Snizek wrote: Paige Morgan wrote: Will Snizek wrote: studio36uk wrote: Cherrystone wrote: studio36uk wrote: Guys, you mean singular, right 36? "you guys" = a literary device = if the shoe fits = if you are making these bogus claims. It is not meant to be all encompassing, but it's plural because he is certainly not alone. You're trying to claim SG owns the copyright to images before they are even purchased. The contract for the images is only finalized when a set is purchased. What sense does that make and why would they even purchase sets if they already own them? It's a very common practice to withdraw sets after 90 days and shop them on other sites. Believe what you want though. Lol How many sets have you shot for Suicide Girls Mr. Snizek? When was the last time you have a through look over their policies and contracts? And what exactly is your experience with Suicide Girls again? Thought so. I'm not telling models anything regarding Suicide Girls, as I've never shot for them. I directed the OP to a very respected member of our community who did a good bit of modeling with them, who can provide factual answers to her questions. Apr 14 13 10:15 am Link Studio36 wrote: Will Snizek wrote: First tell me who that "contract" you suggest exists is with. Between SG and whom? The model? Certainly not the photographer. Will Snizek wrote: Get a copy of that photographer agreement and point out to me where it says that. Go ahead. Do it! [or just stop making that claim!] Apr 14 13 12:13 pm Link Paige Morgan wrote: Will Snizek wrote: Paige Morgan wrote: Will Snizek wrote: studio36uk wrote: Cherrystone wrote: studio36uk wrote: Guys, you mean singular, right 36? "you guys" = a literary device = if the shoe fits = if you are making these bogus claims. It is not meant to be all encompassing, but it's plural because he is certainly not alone. You're trying to claim SG owns the copyright to images before they are even purchased. The contract for the images is only finalized when a set is purchased. What sense does that make and why would they even purchase sets if they already own them? It's a very common practice to withdraw sets after 90 days and shop them on other sites. Believe what you want though. Lol How many sets have you shot for Suicide Girls Mr. Snizek? When was the last time you have a through look over their policies and contracts? And what exactly is your experience with Suicide Girls again? Thought so. I'm not telling models anything regarding Suicide Girls, as I've never shot for them. I directed the OP to a very respected member of our community who did a good bit of modeling with them, who can provide factual answers to her questions. The only one that has misrepresented any information is you. Go find someone else to troll. Apr 14 13 12:19 pm Link Is the Quote feature not working in this thread? Apr 14 13 12:23 pm Link M Pandolfo Photography wrote: I'm not sure who's saying what any more. Apr 14 13 12:39 pm Link M Pandolfo Photography wrote: Sure it is. If anything it is working too well. LOL - it's the mayhem! Apr 14 13 03:52 pm Link Will Snizek wrote: Let's be more accurate and precise, then, since you want to play the pedantics game. Apr 14 13 08:38 pm Link |
