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I am rarely shooting such exact poses, that detailed positioning would even be necessary. Preferring instead fluidity in motion. But hair's a different matter or a piece of lint for example. But I virtually always have someone doing makeup/hair on set and that falls naturally into their domain. However, all that said, if there would be an instance where I would fix something directly, I'd definitely ask first. It would be really invasive otherwise. I remember a few years back when I took Salsa lessons, the instructor asked the first few times if she could touch me. There's a lot of fairly close touching and holding during that kind of instruction. So I appreciated the professionalism although I didn't mind because it was inherent to the activity. But still she asked because she was a professional. May 04 13 11:23 am Link Cherrystone wrote: Sometimes it really is. Because they can't see what you see. I always try to ask. But I also do makeup. I also work as a stylist. And I really am not a touchy feely person -- I do usually make a point of asking to someone to touch someone but sometimes after we have gotten into a rhythm you stop asking for every little thing. May 04 13 11:37 am Link KungPaoChic wrote: In my earlier years, I made more contact. Over time I found easy ways to get around that, and worked better than actual contact. May 04 13 11:41 am Link ewww, touch a model? yeccchhhhh. Seriously, I have only found it necessary a handful of times in decades of shooting. In each and every case, I ask, and wait for an answer before proceeding. Its simply a matter of being respectful, not rocket science. Dont make any assumptions, just ask..... May 04 13 11:47 am Link touching the model should be very rare. As a photographer, you should be able to explain the pose you want and if you can't, a demonstration may be necessary. For stray hairs or clothing fixes that the model can't see, ask permission (even if you have worked with him/her before), approach from a direction they can see and don't loiter when you've finished (I feel like I am working with horses). Don't make a big deal about it. I've also been at fashion shoots where the model had three sets of hands working on them at a time so if a model has a problem being touched, this may not be the right industry for them. May 04 13 11:58 am Link Depending on the model, sometimes I touch and then retouch them. https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/11646874 Sometimes I sleep with them http://www.pbase.com/click_hamilton/sle … ith_models A gentleman should always ask first. Yes means yes; no means no. On the other hand, I'm also a model in my photos, so maybe the rules are different for models touching models. May 04 13 12:12 pm Link For those who appreciate it, human contact is good. Hugs work. Look how friendly my avatar feels - these feelings are real. We are having fun and there's a magnetic feeling of mutual respect and admiration. That's why it makes a good photo.  May 04 13 12:17 pm Link I only touch in accordance with the Sam Fox lyrics. May 04 13 12:23 pm Link Drew Tommons wrote: I am glad you posted that, and I had seen it before, when looking up Bailey. I then watched Rankin on a BBC documentary attempt to duplicate some iconic fashion images, such as Avedon's model and elephants. May 04 13 12:31 pm Link i make a point of touching all my models in an inappropriate fashion and belching loudly as i do so and i like to show my solidarity when doing artnude by only wearing a hat i feel this only adds to the shoot ;-) May 04 13 12:32 pm Link It depends. If I need to give them the backhand or a proper full Nelson, I might have to touch them a bit. It happens. Seriously though, in most cases, if I need to be closer than three feet I tell them why. Usually a “Dude, that blouse is killing me. It needs to be clipped. I can do it or you can throw you back out trying.” Or something like that. It's typically styling related and we discuss beforehand that there are moments when I'll need to change or adjust something. But if I have something heavily styled, I already have a group of people styling and touching the model. A model in the midst of a team isn't going to view her personal space the same way as others might. May 04 13 12:35 pm Link Doesn't anyone use cattle prods anymore? May 04 13 12:37 pm Link Ask. Always ask. Anyone should ask to touch you period, not just photographers. Sometimes a photographer will be like "can you move that piece of hair to there" or something and I'll just tell them to do it how they want it. May 04 13 12:48 pm Link I think photographers should ask first or usually the photoshoot goes down hill from there. And it shows in the photos.. .-. May 04 13 12:52 pm Link ChiMo wrote: It looks cruel May 04 13 01:04 pm Link As long as you are not coming at them like a drooling, bulging-eyed, bad-breath weirdo with pants, oinks and snorts, ... ... I think lots of women like to bask in the attention and the luxury of being preened and primped for photos. Maybe it can be more fun than Disneyland. It just depends on the person. It's so easy to offer, or ask. Then you know, without question. Some people ice up when anyone gets within a long arms length of them. In that case, use caution to give them their space, or the photos will suffer. --- I'm working on a photo now called "Click Hamilton Banana Massage" and I think it's going to be a great one. Yes, it requires some camaraderie, trust and intimate contact. I can't wait to show the finished image. I think it will be a Click Classic. --- "It depends" ... no truer words than these. May 04 13 01:21 pm Link we are touchy aren't we? May 04 13 01:27 pm Link I wish I could. I'm too old to be showing the pose when the model does not understand what I am trying to capture but I suck it up. I caution the models that if I can not get up from the floor to call 911. May 04 13 01:40 pm Link I once had a photographer 'fix' my boob. Without asking. Or any prior warning. And then I later found out he'd been secretly recording the whole thing. So yeah, that was a great shoot. Lesson to everybody: Don't ever touch a model unless you've agreed to it and paid her a lot of money. May 04 13 01:49 pm Link Honestly I don't even care. I never do any shoots that would involve anyone adjusting something in an innapropriete place. When photographers or designers ask if they can fix something or move my arm a certain way, I just say "go ahead!" because I expect that now. Never had any bad experiences. May 04 13 01:50 pm Link -B-R-U-N-E-S-C-I- wrote: what? May 04 13 01:51 pm Link If I'm tying a model up, I tell the model I'm going to touch them. the end. May 04 13 01:52 pm Link I wonder if Movie directors go up and get all touchy touchy with their actors to get a point across. I for one never touch a model no need to unless she so undirectable that i have to go up and indicate to her this is your right arm and this is your left foot. May 04 13 02:12 pm Link Never had to touch a model, and that's with my hard to understand direction sometimes. However I had a successful model from the 80s telling me not to be afraid to position the model the way you want, to get the shot you want. Thought it was interesting of her telling me that. May 04 13 02:58 pm Link If we're not understanding one another with the direction I'm giving, I have no problem adjusting the model. For me it's 99.9% of the time just nudging their shoulder more in the direction I want though. Don't really do anything specific pose-wise that I need to adjust anything specific like their toes or anything lol. If hair is in the face I just tell them to move it themselves, or have makeup do it. May 04 13 03:06 pm Link Luckily, I haven't had that problem. Photographers have always asked me to do it myself, or have asked before they touched me. I really don't mind if they ask. May 04 13 04:24 pm Link Bravo Magic Images wrote: This made me giggle. To this day, I still need to make an "L" with both hands to immediately figure out which one is my left. Otherwise, I have to sit there and think about it. My husband always tells me "No, your other left" or "My version of left not your version of left". Modeling, I've only had that problem once or twice momentarily, thankfully, and the photographer and I were both able to laugh about it. May 04 13 04:28 pm Link Antier wrote: WTF? May 04 13 04:29 pm Link Oops, I never actually thought about this. I touch models all day. I normally provide an "excuse me" every once and a while, but meh lol. I also do my own nipple tweaking. Flaccid nipples are never a good thing.  But everyone loves me and I'm sexy as heck, so that always helps. :p May 04 13 04:40 pm Link There is something a little creepy about asking: "can I touch you?". If you have to touch it would seem less awkward to just warn the model "I'm going to readjust ....". May 04 13 04:52 pm Link I am comfortable with being adjusted. But I prefer to be told that is their intention first. May 04 13 05:03 pm Link Babylon Dubaron Imagery wrote: Would not be happy with a photographer touching my nipples no matter how good looking they are May 04 13 05:04 pm Link Drew Smith Photography wrote: +1 May 04 13 05:06 pm Link rfordphotos wrote:
May 04 13 05:10 pm Link While I find it to be a rare occassion that I need to touch a model, I never do so without first asking. And, I usually cover that before the shoot starts. However, I never, ever touch a model during a nude shoot. If my wife is in attendance, she will adjust a nude model after asking permission. Or, I will ask their escort to make any adjustments. (I ask models to bring a female escort to nude shoots.) May 04 13 05:19 pm Link I don't need warnings or an OK from anyone when it comes to being adjusted/etc. Photographers, makeup artists, etc... go for it. I have enough gut instinct that I can tell pretty quick if someone is coming at me for a reason that may bring harm to me. The only time I personally will fix something is when it is something to do with my private area (thong, etc). I don't really want to be adjusted there. May 04 13 05:21 pm Link salvatori. wrote: Lies. May 04 13 05:26 pm Link Part of my job is touching. If the model/actor isn't on set, I'll usually let then know "I just need to adjust something" but I rarely go into details as to what. However, if the photographer/camera/director has had to stop to let me step in, then I think it's pretty obvious I'm going to be touching you. If its something more intimate (tucking in the tag on a pair of pants, adjusting the back of a bra) then I will tell the model my intentions. I've been asked by both photographers and directors to adjust things in the past that they could have done themselves. It seems people just expect more touching from hair/makeup artist and wardrobe. And after spending 30 minutes in our chairs, models are usually pretty us touching them. Oh, and I rarely ask to touch so much as inform that I will be touching someone. If I'm doing it, it's because it's not something you can do/see yourself or the photographer wants you to hold a pose. May 04 13 05:36 pm Link DP May 04 13 05:36 pm Link I'm of a strong "don't touch me" mindset. I have a sensory disorder and it seriously freaks me out to have people just walk up and touch me. If asked I can brace myself for it. Someone made the "your barber will touch you if you got in to get your haircut" reference, which is fine, because I went in there under the assumption that I'm going to get touched; this is not the same at a shoot. It's not the hard to say "do you mind if I move that stray hair?" or fill in the blank before touching a model. It's easier to assume the model needs to be warned before making adjustments and to warn her than to just make them and find out she's not okay with it. May 04 13 05:40 pm Link |
