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What can a photog do to attract nude models?
Lennon wrote: - Put some fine art nudes in your portfolio. Lennon wrote: When I was actively modeling, I looked for: Lennon wrote: This is not the critique forum. We are not allowed to critique you here. May 14 13 12:15 pm Link Eliza C wrote: The great art nude models seem to remain enthusiastic and interested in producing fresh art. May 14 13 12:21 pm Link Hugh Alison wrote: +1 May 14 13 12:23 pm Link That Italian Guy wrote: Absolutely true! May 14 13 12:25 pm Link Hugh Alison wrote: Maybe.....but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be discerning about who they work with..... I think we're all saying the same thing May 14 13 12:27 pm Link KevinMcGowanPhotography wrote: They are. May 14 13 12:29 pm Link Pay and or do dope shit May 14 13 12:36 pm Link Hugh Alison wrote: Unfortunately for them, some photographers don't see it that way. May 14 13 12:37 pm Link I think if you persist in contacting models eventually some of them are going to say yes. It might seem to you logically that it might be better to contact newer models that have a more pressing need for portfolio photos, but that is not necessarily the case. A lot of newer models believe they should get paid for nude work regardless, so sometimes contacting more experienced models works out better, in my experience. I should mention that you also should try outlets other than MM. FB is a good one, and there are others. May 14 13 12:39 pm Link In a word.... Make it rain money! May 14 13 12:45 pm Link From my experience: 1) be outstanding at fashion nudes, and live in somewhere near a major fashion centre https://www.modelmayhem.com/470507 2) be outstanding at art nude in the landscape, and live somewhere incredibly beautiful https://www.modelmayhem.com/146094 or 3) own horses, and let naked chicks ride them https://www.modelmayhem.com/367780 Note the words "outstanding" in 1 and 2, and "horses" in 3. May 14 13 01:00 pm Link Lennon wrote: No critiques in this forum; I haven't viewed the OP's portfolio. May 14 13 01:07 pm Link I have shot art nudes for TF lots of times. Out of those times, I think they all fell within a handful of scenarios: 1. Early on in my modeling I just needed the experience so I was pretty open to shooting with anyone who looked like they could handle lighting and could get decent photos with a good reputation/references. This was how I developed my port and got paid work and TF shoots with better photographers. I am no longer able to do this because I do not have the time and I have a pretty solid port. 2. Friends. As in real friends who have been there for me who happen to be photographers as well. This also usually means there is a collaboration as well and that we have come up with the concept or style ahead of time. 3. A local group shoot where we all pay a small fee to shoot in a secure, safe, interesting location and book 1 to 2 hour time slots with each other. This is currently the #1 way to get to shoot with me, even over offering me pay. The event happens 2 or 3 times a year and I usually get any where from 6 to 9 shoots in. I usually try to book some photographers who I have worked with before, some who have very nice portfolios, and one or two who I have not worked with before and who may not be up to the usual standards, but who seem nice. 4. People who have a portfolio full of art nudes that make me wish I was the model in at least half the shots. 5. Providing some sort of additional goodness that entices me to shoot. This might be a body painter, an MUA, some kind of awesome unique wardrobe, a really cool location, live animals (this is a big, big drive for me personally), etc. I need unique stuff for my portfolio and to show my fans. Unfortunately this usually means you either have connections to those things or you paid out of pocket to get them which is not really completely TF, I suppose. And also, and I say this a lot, I like nice people. I also like photographers who make me feel like they want to shoot with me not just any ole model who is willing to pose nude. Telling me you like my posing, or my look, or whatnot gets you some serious points. Granted you still need to have the skills, but if I am on the fence, that will bring me over to your side ^_~ As far as what I like to see in a portfolio: - awesome lighting, awesome lighting, awesome lighting - some unique angles or at least very flattering ones - photos that make me wish I were the model in them May 14 13 01:12 pm Link I don't know if this has been covered or not but if you want to shoot nudes you should have some in your port. So I guess it's a bit of a catch 22. My advice would be to be straight forward in saying that you want to shoot nudes. As opposed to trying to talk models into it once they get there. I did a whole series of nudes with models from MM for an art show I was a part of last year. Many of them are on my port. I didn't pay any of them. What I did do was invite them to the party. Me and 11 other photographers/ artists/ etc... we had a live dj/ catered food/ and went through something like 85 bottles of wine. So I sold it as great work for their portfolios, plus a party. And once I had a few examples to show, others came on board. Still it wasn't easy recruiting and there were a few models I would have loved to shoot with who just weren't up for shooting nudes tf*. Good luck! May 14 13 08:29 pm Link I look for the experience doing nudes and good quality images. May 14 13 08:57 pm Link Farenell Photography wrote: Lennon wrote: I love college girls and Craigslist, most of the the time $20 per hour/ or $50 for 3 hours (and 3 different sets). May 15 13 01:00 am Link Lennon wrote: Don't use the words fine art as nobody knows what it means. May 15 13 08:54 am Link M Pandolfo Photography wrote: Exactly, just like we had to pay to go to school and learn photography we have to pay to develop our first portfolio. Even if a model is willing to trade there are many cost involved in producing a great shoot. May 15 13 09:02 am Link I found nude models at university by socializing in the bar with the fashion students and beauty students, some of whom were really keen to TF nude. Once I had a bit of practice, sometimes later on while shooting a paid job, I might ask the model to TF afterwards. I would say having MM models listed in my profile has seemed to change the amount and type of messages I get from people. Mostly people want to shoot nude, and specifically charge more for nude. I do have problems on MM, but finding nude is not one of them, it's more like unclear communication or people ticking "fashion" but getting awkward over wearing a pair of tights. Nude models are very straightforwards here, they want the bigger money and are happy shooting nude for it. May 15 13 09:29 am Link About half of the art nudes I've done were on a trade basis. Most were with models newer to modeling and most I got from casting calls other than MM. Most very experienced models will be very selective in accepting trade, but there are people out there who value nude images of themselves and will welcome the opportunity for trade. Compared to paying experienced models it means weeding through people who are unsuitable and more flaky behavior. What's also worth noting is that many models seeking pay accept rates much lower than one commonly sees mentioned in the model rate threads. May 15 13 09:46 am Link Pay up? May 15 13 03:33 pm Link Don't say any of these things if you want to get or keep a model around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpS1sfdEybE May 15 13 03:44 pm Link You need to be persistent and maintain your focus. May 15 13 03:56 pm Link Lennon wrote: Paying tends to work. May 15 13 05:20 pm Link ontherocks wrote: It has nothing to do with what lights you use; I get a lot of my best stuff with natural light, and I've had plenty of models impressed with images I took with a $10 shop light. May 15 13 05:25 pm Link Lennon wrote:
May 15 13 08:05 pm Link Pay them! May 15 13 08:15 pm Link Fotopia wrote: + 1 May 15 13 09:03 pm Link |
