Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Swank Photography wrote:
Wow. Now you are truly insulting and being wrong on so many levels here.
First off, that young lady (Elizabeta Rosandic )who responded wasn't trolling. Second off, who the hell are you to say "congratulations to being a mom who wants their daughter to have a career in pornography rather than a nip slip in Harpers." to her anyhow? Really?
You have the audacity to march up in here and insult her like this when she was responding to you in a non trolling, non offensive manner?
For your information, she got the same impression as I did from you initial post about nudes being pornography.
If I were you, I would apologize to her. She didn't deserve that hot mess from you. Whatever bro.
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Swank Photography
Posts: 19020
Key West, Florida, US
Antediluvian Design wrote:
Whatever bro. No I am not a bro sweetheart. I am a woman. Get it right.
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Swank Photography wrote:
No I am not a bro sweetheart. I am a woman. Get it right. I am not apologizing to you or her. You two need to apologize to me.
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Swank Photography
Posts: 19020
Key West, Florida, US
Antediluvian Design wrote:
I am not apologizing to you or her. You two need to apologize to me. Queen Elizabeth would have to have a sex change first before that would EVER happen 
And FYI I never asked for an apology
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Swank Photography wrote:
Queen Elizabeth would have to have a sex change first before that would EVER happen
And FYI I never asked for an apology Yea ok
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Art of the nude wrote:
Posting "topless implied nipple slips" will offend a lot more models than posting full nudes shot with the model's consent. And, hard as it may be to understand, nudity and pornography are different things. Neither is an essential part of the other. Antediluvian Design wrote:
It is intentional and consentual nipple slippage which I feel are much sexier than just having it all hang out there. There is nothing like the viewer being teased. It leaves them wanting more which they never get. They are the photos I personally like the most. Not all will agree but that's just me. If it's actual, it's not implied. I did this, which is I guess the sort of thing you're talking about (18+, the bottom image) https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/19468943
But, normally, I don't shoot nudes with "sexy" as the goal.
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
The shoot today in my avatar one came out. Not gonna lie sexy as hell. Model doesn't want it used so it won't be used. Do I approve? You betcha. Would mom approve? Hell no. Do I think it's pornographic? Hell no.
After I have seen the emotion of a simple nipple, I will strive to capture consentual nipple slips. In fact, I consider the nipple slip a form of rebellion from the oppressive authority of our modern day society.
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RBM Photo
Posts: 557
Bellbrook, Ohio, US
In fact, I consider shooting nude models a form of rebellion from the oppressive authority of our modern day society.
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Glamour by Glenn
Posts: 1033
Chattanooga, Tennessee, US
Many if not most of the photographers on here are or were GWCs at one point. How many can honestly say "I got into photographing models because it seemed like a profitable career path with good benefits"? I'm not even a little bit ashamed to say that I really like to see the female form. It's programmed into my freaking DNA so there's no sense in trying to act like I'm some kind of noble superhuman who is immune to the drive that ensures the survival of our species. Our words and actions are what define us. I have photographed quite a few beautiful naked women and have enjoyed the experience tremendously. But I know what's right and what's wrong and I conduct myself in a manner where I treat everyone as an equal human being, with respect and dignity. OP, I don't know you personally. All I know about you I read in this thread and on your portfolio page. But I dare say you are one of us, a GWC. You're just ashamed of the title. Glenn WC http://gwcarter.smugmug.com
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Model Mentor Studio
Posts: 1359
Saint Catharines-Niagara, Ontario, Canada
Antediluvian Design wrote:
Whatever bro. What are you twelve years old? Don't judge people cause I am sure there are some douchey skeletons in your closet. Me thinks thou doth protest too much. Get a grip and grow up.
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Rick OBanion Photo wrote:
What are you twelve years old? Don't judge people cause I am sure there are some douchey skeletons in your closet. Me thinks thou doth protest too much. Get a grip and grow up. You get a grip bro.
Photographer
Model Mentor Studio
Posts: 1359
Saint Catharines-Niagara, Ontario, Canada
Antediluvian Design wrote:
You get a grip bro. Hang on I have crayons and paste for ya to play with
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m_s_photo
Posts: 605
Port Moody, British Columbia, Canada
Antediluvian -
a : made, evolved, or developed a long time ago
b : extremely primitive or outmoded
Relevant? Not for me to say.
Just happened upon a definition.
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
I take sport in trading barbs with you. For you it's serious. For me, a form of amusement. Another reason to laugh at Canadians eh?
Go home and get your effen shine box.
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Art Silva
Posts: 10064
Santa Barbara, California, US
AD, put the skateboard and XBox down and grow a pair. Don't worry what others think about your nip slips and move out of moms house if she's going to rail your photos and cry pornography... oh and don't disrespect others in this industry because you may need to cross that bridge you burned down someday. Sincerely someone who apparently shots a lot of porn 
Model
neeeep
Posts: 238
Los Angeles, California, US
Antediluvian Design wrote:
Haha...really. You would rather see your daughter in a 10 dude gang bang then a nip slip in Harpers? Wow you two sound like uh....trolling. i sure hope you posted that nip slip with her permission..
Model
neeeep
Posts: 238
Los Angeles, California, US
Swank Photography wrote:
Wow. Now you are truly insulting and being wrong on so many levels here.
First off, that young lady (Elizabeta Rosandic )who responded wasn't trolling. Second off, who the hell are you to say "congratulations to being a mom who wants their daughter to have a career in pornography rather than a nip slip in Harpers." to her anyhow? Really?
You have the audacity to march up in here and insult her like this when she was responding to you in a non trolling, non offensive manner?
For your information, she got the same impression as I did from you initial post about nudes being pornography.
If I were you, I would apologize to her. She didn't deserve that hot mess from you. +1,000,000
Model
neeeep
Posts: 238
Los Angeles, California, US
Antediluvian Design wrote:
You get a grip bro. looks like my little brother learned how to type.
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Bambi Dahl wrote:
looks like my little brother learned how to type. Put down the crack pipe and read the thread.
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Risen Phoenix Photo
Posts: 3779
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
AD What the hell dude( like that) you totally hijacked this thread! As a fine art photographer I am frustrated and insulted by you or your moms opinion about nude photography. Look your nip slips ( yes I know that you say the model approved) regardless of the way in which they were captured are meant to stir the purient interest of the viewer. Swank was right that motivation is the same as porn. Art nudes focus on light, shadow and line to create an artistic representation of the human body that goes as far back as the Greeks . They should never arrouse the purient interest of a viewer, unless of course your 12 years old.  maybe I started late? Anyway you get my point. I don't think you wanted to create this shit storm, but you did that with your opinion on nudes. While GWCs shoot nudes, the corollary does not hold true... Those who shoot nudes are NOT ALWAYS GWCs
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Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
AD What the hell dude( like that) you totally hijacked this thread!
As a fine art photographer I am frustrated and insulted by you or your moms opinion about nude photography.
Look your nip slips ( yes I know that you say the model approved) regardless of the way in which they were captured are meant to stir the purient interest of the viewer.
Swank was right that motivation is the same as porn. Art nudes focus on light, shadow and line to create an artistic representation of the human body that goes as far back as the Greeks . They should never arrouse the purient interest of a viewer, unless of course your 12 years old. maybe I started late? Anyway you get my point.
I don't think you wanted to create this shit storm, but you did that with your opinion on nudes.
While GWCs shoot nudes, the corollary does not hold true... Those who shoot nudes are NOT ALWAYS GWCs Read the thread bro. What's your point? My mom would hate your work. Get over it. I like sexy photos. I am not going to lay down a bunch of subtrefuge about light, shadow, organic composition etc. Maybe you can call her up and give her a presentation on modern photography.
Photographer
Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
AD What the hell dude( like that) you totally hijacked this thread!
As a fine art photographer I am frustrated and insulted by you or your moms opinion about nude photography.
Look your nip slips ( yes I know that you say the model approved) regardless of the way in which they were captured are meant to stir the purient interest of the viewer.
Swank was right that motivation is the same as porn. Art nudes focus on light, shadow and line to create an artistic representation of the human body that goes as far back as the Greeks . They should never arrouse the purient interest of a viewer, unless of course your 12 years old. maybe I started late? Anyway you get my point.
I don't think you wanted to create this shit storm, but you did that with your opinion on nudes.
While GWCs shoot nudes, the corollary does not hold true... Those who shoot nudes are NOT ALWAYS GWCs Antediluvian Design wrote:
Read the thread bro. What's your point? My mom would hate your work. Get over it. I like sexy photos. I am not going to lay down a bunch of subtrefuge about light, shadow, organic composition etc. Maybe you can call her up and give her a presentation on modern photography. Oddly, everyone who has responded to the thread other than you disagrees with you. Models AND photographers. Maybe even someone who does neither. Perhaps there's a lesson in it when you are consistently the only one who is both immature and alone in your opinions. Or, for that matter, the only one who fits EITHER of those categories.
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Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Art of the nude wrote:
Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
AD What the hell dude( like that) you totally hijacked this thread!
As a fine art photographer I am frustrated and insulted by you or your moms opinion about nude photography.
Look your nip slips ( yes I know that you say the model approved) regardless of the way in which they were captured are meant to stir the purient interest of the viewer.
Swank was right that motivation is the same as porn. Art nudes focus on light, shadow and line to create an artistic representation of the human body that goes as far back as the Greeks . They should never arrouse the purient interest of a viewer, unless of course your 12 years old. maybe I started late? Anyway you get my point.
I don't think you wanted to create this shit storm, but you did that with your opinion on nudes.
While GWCs shoot nudes, the corollary does not hold true... Those who shoot nudes are NOT ALWAYS GWCs Oddly, everyone who has responded to the thread other than you disagrees with you. Models AND photographers. Maybe even someone who does neither. Perhaps there's a lesson in it when you are consistently the only one who is both immature and alone in your opinions. Or, for that matter, the only one who fits EITHER of those categories. Not everyone disagreed.
Photographer
Risen Phoenix Photo
Posts: 3779
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
Antediluvian Design wrote:
Read the thread bro. What's your point? My mom would hate your work. Get over it. I like sexy photos. I am not going to lay down a bunch of subtrefuge about light, shadow, organic composition etc. Maybe you can call her up and give her a presentation on modern photography. I read the entire thread sir. I know exactly what you mean when you say your mother would hate it. You hate nudes too. It's clear by what you have in your port and your thinly veiled and I might add snide comments.
And it's not subterfuge BRO . If I showed your mother my work she would love it like most women I know.
She would ask me why her son couldn't take beautiful, organic images like mine and stop shooting nip slips.
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Art Silva
Posts: 10064
Santa Barbara, California, US
Antediluvian Design wrote:
Not everyone disagreed. Pretty darn close but your comments have created more attention to the reasons why.
By attacking a majority of nude photographers and models for stating their case and disagreeing with you or trying to open a dialog and then acting immature and taking it personally shows a lack of experience... one of the characteristics of a GWC [and more to the point of the thread].
btw, Bro is someone close, trustworthy and shares your opinions, a friend, not someone you intend on demeaning for their differences.
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
I read the entire thread sir. I know exactly what you mean when you say your mother would hate it. You hate nudes too. It's clear by what you have in your port and your thinly veiled and I might add snide comments.
And it's not subterfuge BRO . If I showed your mother my work she would love it like most women I know.
She would ask me why her son couldn't take beautiful, organic images like mine and stop shooting nip slips. Where did you ever get the idea I hate nudes? I love nudes both male and female. You are dead wrong on that front sir. I think the work you and a few others who specialize in artistic nudes is extraordinary. That being said, for every one extraordinary photographer there are 10 who shoot sexy titillating content period. I fucking like a good nip slip. I think for now I will leave any nudity limited to the concealed nipple. I think its sexy. If i want a model nude and curled up in a ball with a metaphor of being an egg, then that is what I will do. That is what I want as a photographer. What is the fucking problem except arguing for the sake of arguing. I make the distinction I get it. I understand. Do you understand what I am trying to say? Or do you just fucking react?
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Kevin Connery
Posts: 17824
El Segundo, California, US
 Moderator Warning! Bambi Dahl wrote:
Antediluvian Design wrote:
You get a grip bro. looks like my little brother learned how to type. Do not troll.
Do not feed the trolls.
I don't care who "started it"; if you can't play nicely, play somewhere else. Or don't play.
Model
K I C K H A M
Posts: 14689
Los Angeles, California, US
I had an old tab up and thought this was now. And I bumped it.
>.<
Eff.
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Art Silva
Posts: 10064
Santa Barbara, California, US
K I C K H A M wrote:
I had an old tab up and thought this was now. And I bumped it.
>.<
Eff. Lol you're bad. 
I have a feeling there was some brig-ing happening in that off time.
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Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
K I C K H A M wrote:
I had an old tab up and thought this was now. And I bumped it.
>.<
Eff. Wow really?
Model
V Laroche
Posts: 2746
Khowmeyn, Markazī, Iran
J-PhotoArt wrote:
This sounds like the battle cry of a "White Knight!" I thought it just sounded judgmental and condescending.
Photographer
J-PhotoArt
Posts: 1133
San Francisco, California, US
V Laroche wrote:
I thought it just sounded judgmental and condescending. Of course that as well! It always amazes me how so many of the people that make these kind of "helpful / advice" comments and post have such an over-inflated opinion of themselves and their skills and talents?
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Bare Essential Photos
Posts: 3605
Upland, California, US
Image Magik wrote:
This post is primarily for newbie models with a few pictures in their port of not very good quality that just started modeling a month ago and want to charge "photographers" to shoot them nude to make a quick buck.
Whether you know it or not your port says GWC's Wanted. What's wrong with that?
I'm a GWC.
Photographer
Art Silva
Posts: 10064
Santa Barbara, California, US
Be nice, GWCs are people too with feelings and stuff. Sometimes creepy but still human beings
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Amul La La
Posts: 885
London, England, United Kingdom
(Here courtesy of someone posting a link of this in another thread)
Hilarious, I'm slightly addicted to salaciousness, lurking is fun in general for all creatives, you can learn so much more about a pale of things/issues/etc - sometimes it's very informative.
Most of the time it's "NOT", but when you're not involve you can sit back and watch it all unfold, with out having to argue over senseless, mindless bull****.
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FBY1K
Posts: 956
North Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Ed Woodson Photography wrote:
If not for GWC's, about a third of the models on here wouldn't be making a living at all. More power to both. It is s free trade market after all. Hooah!
FBY1K
Photographer
HO Photo
Posts: 575
Los Angeles, California, US
Ugh. Edited/redacted to back myself out of this mess of a thread.
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Solas
Posts: 10390
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
so...are you looking for gwcs...or are you looking for models who seek gwcs? are you saying you're a gwc...  ..is confused...
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maybe I started late? Anyway you get my point. 
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