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Mark Salo
Posts: 11723
Olney, Maryland, US
LA StarShooter wrote: Try a fixed lens, although, I am not familiar with your camera's menu in terms of settings. For my Nikon d7000 I bought a 50mm 1.8f D and the 85mm 1.8f. As I'm not sure what lens your camera takes-mine takes a lot of different lenses--it is good to check your lens compatibility list and performance. The 85mm 1.8 f D I really like for fashion and swimsuit. The 50mm 1.8 has worked well for me in an 10 x 12 room and also at the house of blues and in a studio. Robert Mossack wrote: I would like to point out that since the OP has a D3200, he will need the newer "G" versions of these two lenses to retain autofocus. Whatever lens he gets, it needs to have an internal focus motor, a G or an AF-S.
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Photo Chilly
Posts: 13
Escondido, California, US
Wow, never knew a simple question could cause so many people to fester. There are some amazingly good lenses out there for very little money. The Nikon 24-70 2.8 is certainly the holy grail, but here are two that can cover almost everything for very little money. This is probably the ultimate lense to learn with. It will rival the most expensive lenses for quality. The 3200 needs the "AF-S" to auto focus, so skip the much talked about older 50mm "D" model. -50mm 1.8 G AF-S - http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/50mm-f18-g.htm Here is a great do everything lense value, what many refer to as a "walking around lense" because of its versatility to shoot nearly everything. 18-200mm 3.5 AF-S - http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/18200/ … rmance.htm Here is the link to read up on some great recommendations for your camera. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/dx-dream-team.htm
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Drew Smith Photography
Posts: 5214
Nottingham, England, United Kingdom
PhotoChilly wrote: Wow, never knew a simple question could cause so many people to fester. There are some amazingly good lenses out there for very little money. The Nikon 24-70 2.8 is certainly the holy grail, but here are two that can cover almost everything for very little money. This is probably the ultimate lense to learn with. It will rival the most expensive lenses for quality. The 3200 needs the "AF-S" to auto focus, so skip the much talked about older 50mm "D" model. -50mm 1.8 G AF-S - http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/50mm-f18-g.htm Here is a great do everything lense value, what many refer to as a "walking around lense" because of its versatility to shoot nearly everything. 18-200mm 3.5 AF-S - http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/18200/ … rmance.htm Here is the link to read up on some great recommendations for your camera. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/dx-dream-team.htm I find Mr Rockwell less than.... credible sometimes. "This $200 tele lens is magnificent. It is optically one of Nikon's best lenses, and handles and works great on every DX camera." He doesn't have the sense to qualify his statement with 'for the money'.
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theBeachStrober
Posts: 885
Robertsdale, Alabama, US
Drew Smith Photography wrote: I find Mr Rockwell less than.... credible sometimes. "This $200 tele lens is magnificent. It is optically one of Nikon's best lenses, and handles and works great on every DX camera." He doesn't have the sense to qualify his statement with 'for the money'. Why would he need to qualify when he then lists other lenses that meet more specific needs?
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J O H N A L L A N
Posts: 12221
Los Angeles, California, US
JonPhoto wrote: Why would he need to qualify when he then lists other lenses that meet more specific needs? What? "more specific needs", like optical quality?
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theBeachStrober
Posts: 885
Robertsdale, Alabama, US
J O H N A L L A N wrote: What? "more specific needs", like optical quality? Did you read the link about recommended tele lenses?
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Shot By Adam
Posts: 8093
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Brian K PHOTO wrote: A lot of good Nikon lens information here. http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/nikkor.htm especially: Nikon's 10 Best Lenses Yeah, and with any luck, Ken has actually seen some of those lenses he reviewed too!
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the lonely photographer
Posts: 2342
Beverly Hills, California, US
JonPhoto wrote: I'm going to say if you have to ask, you are not ready to get a pro grade lens just yet. There are just so many options that it depends on what you like to shoot. I would suggest getting studying more, practicing with what you have, and see what direction you go with your practice. Once you get a better idea of your style or how to shoot, then you will be able to answer your question. That's the problem with this forum, one has to be pretty arrogant to even state that. It's like a guy walking into a Rolls Royce Dealer and asking the salesman how many miles per gallon the car gets, and he replies "if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it". Simply tell the guy what in your opinion what you believe is a suitable lens and leave out the judgemental and editorial opinions, it's obnoxious and condescending.
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JoesAlterrnative
Posts: 353
Tampa, Florida, US
I would get a 50mm lens and not worry about investing on a $1800 pro lens, only to have it on a cheap body. Better off getting a used Full Frame with a 50mm if thats the case. But yes, a 50mm lens can provide professional results and its the most affordable prime. For Nikon, I used the 1.4d. Sharp and goes for about $250 on ebay. Don't worry about what others are shooting or what equipment they use. They are good because of the experience behind the camera, not the camera being experienced. You'll get there. Just learn the basics. Natural light, entry level strobe study, and a prime. Or, a higher grade VR DX lens. Cheap as well.
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ChadAlan
Posts: 4254
Los Angeles, California, US
Desmond Lin wrote: hi everyone, just taken this hobby recently and am wondering which nikon lens is good for prof photoshoot. there are just so many types of lens and am really interested to find out which is the best lens with prof shoots. im using D3200. guys help advise. many thanks ) I may have missed it, but what lenses are you currently using? I'd say go with a 50mm 1.8 and 85mm 1.8 OR a 24-70 2.8 That should be enough to get you started but it is a bit harder not knowing what you want to shoot, or what your budget is.
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photoimager
Posts: 5164
Stoke-on-Trent, England, United Kingdom
If your camera / lens / lighting / technique combination is good enough to get the quality your clients want then that is what you need. The more discerning and aware your clients are the higher their expectations and understanding of quality and therefore the better your capture tools combination needs to be. You only need to look at FB pages to see that there are many people out there who are either not very discerning or have very low quality expectations. I have recently been selling on my older lenses since they no longer meet the quality expectations that both I and my clients have.
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photoimager
Posts: 5164
Stoke-on-Trent, England, United Kingdom
CHAD ALAN wrote: ......... but it is a bit harder not knowing what you want to shoot, or what your budget is. Hence why I made no specific recommendations. Even if genre is known, the style and working environment / space also influence choices. It is not unusual for me to find myself using a shorter focal length than I'd like because of space / situational conditions or a single focal length at infinity lens when I'd rather be using a zoom but the light levels / action is such that I need F1.4 to get a suitable shutter speed and limited noise.
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Darren Brade
Posts: 3351
London, England, United Kingdom
Erlinda wrote: It's like buying a crazy racing car because you want to learn how to drive. Sure you can learn with it but it be a waste of it's amazingness. Actually, the correct term for the above is: "Mid-life Crisis"
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Darren Brade
Posts: 3351
London, England, United Kingdom
Since the purpose of the query is to improve his/her picture to a better standard, I would advise in investing the money in himself rather than the gear. When I started out I took a year long evening class at my local college. Not only do you learn but get to mix with fellow photographers and learn from them too. I chose the course because there was also a follow on intermediate course afterwards. Then I joined a local photography club which gave me the chance to informally meet up with Pros only too happy to help me. You can learn by yourself or with others, just have fun whilst you do it. Once you learn what pictures you want to take it makes it easier in choosing what equipment you need to be buying, otherwise you end up going round in circles since everyone's opinion is different.
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GlamourPhotoChicago
Posts: 335
Chicago, Illinois, US
depends on your budget, and what you want to get. Here is my lineup i order of usages. Nikon 85mm f/1.4G for full body shots Zeiss 135mm f/2 for Headshots Nikon 135mm F/2 DC for headshots (going to sell it since I just got the Zeiss) Nikon 200mm F/2 for headshots and sports Sigma 35mm F1.4 for wider angle sots Zeiss 15mm F2 for Landscape Nikon 24-70mm for travel and events Nikon 70-200 for sports Nikon 50mm F/1.4 for hotel room shoots. Tamron 90mm Macro for macro
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Laura Elizabeth Photo
Posts: 2253
Rochester, New York, US
CHAD ALAN wrote: I may have missed it, but what lenses are you currently using? I'd say go with a 50mm 1.8 and 85mm 1.8 OR a 24-70 2.8 That should be enough to get you started but it is a bit harder not knowing what you want to shoot, or what your budget is. This, I use a 50mm 1.8 for nearly all my shots. I really want a 85 but I'm too broke and my studio is too small to use it effectively anyways but really the 50 does just fine for now.
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fotopfw
Posts: 962
Kerkrade, Limburg, Netherlands
pellepiano wrote: The photography skills are far more important than the lens. And having a good understanding of light. For fun, heres a fashionshoot with an iPhone .... http://fstoppers.com/iphone Do scroll down and see the light that is used for this iPhone shoot. Investing in light and knowing how to use it sure helps.
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theBeachStrober
Posts: 885
Robertsdale, Alabama, US
the lonely photographer wrote: That's the problem with this forum, one has to be pretty arrogant to even state that. It's like a guy walking into a Rolls Royce Dealer and asking the salesman how many miles per gallon the car gets, and he replies "if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it". Simply tell the guy what in your opinion what you believe is a suitable lens and leave out the judgemental and editorial opinions, it's obnoxious and condescending. Arrogant, trying to save the guy some money on a lens he may find useless because it doesn't suit his style because he doesn't have one yet? I did tell him my opinion. Look at all the opinions he has gotten. They are all over the place in what lenses to get. I'm telling him to develop his OWN style, not one suited to how ANOTHER photographer shoots.
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ChadAlan
Posts: 4254
Los Angeles, California, US
This is one of those times where it would be great if the OP returned to fill in the blanks
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JV Archer
Posts: 386
Great Falls, Montana, US
Mac Intosh wrote: These are the Nikon lenses that you want to consider… 70~200 2.8G 24~70 2.8G 14~24 2.8G I own each and would highly recommend all three to anyone considering them. Among the three, the 24-70mm and 70-200mm get the most use. They are tack sharp and have performed exceedingly well. Sigma makes some nice alternatives to these lenses also. They're worth a look for good quality and a price tag that won't break the bank quite as thoroughly as the Nikkor equivalents. I'd throw in a +1 vote to the folks in this thread who have recommended study of light at a higher priority level than a purchase of additional lenses. There's nothing wrong with having nice lenses -- I wouldn't trade mine for anything -- but there are a lot of other elements that have a more immediate impact on the quality of an image. Light (Natural or Artificial) > Subject > Composition > Focus > Environment > Lens > Camera Others may disagree with this priority list, and that's fine.
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the lonely photographer
Posts: 2342
Beverly Hills, California, US
JonPhoto wrote: Arrogant, trying to save the guy some money on a lens he may find useless because it doesn't suit his style because he doesn't have one yet? I did tell him my opinion. Look at all the opinions he has gotten. They are all over the place in what lenses to get. I'm telling him to develop his OWN style, not one suited to how ANOTHER photographer shoots. if you bother to read the subsequent posts ,he did not mind to spend money on whatever he chose, and who appointed you chief financial officer to decide how to handle another's fiscal business. Now that is arrogance. There is no explicit request on how allocate his resources, you took it upon yourself to even suggest that. It's his money and it's none of your damn business nor anyone else on how the op should spend it. The op never asked for those opinions, stick to the point asked.
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A-M-P
Posts: 18465
Orlando, Florida, US
Learn with what you have now. Once you know your camera and how to manipulate light, Then I say you are ready to invest in a pro lens. You have no idea how many crap photos I have seen taken with the best pro gear. People want to run before they can crawl. If you are asking for a lens that will give you pro looking photos, that right there tells me that doesn't matter what lens you have or get you will get the same results you are getting now. The equipment doesn't give you the professional looking photos the person working the camera does.
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A-M-P
Posts: 18465
Orlando, Florida, US
Christopher Hartman wrote: no, he asked what lenses are good for professional photo shoots. Not what will make him look like a pro. however, if you have high end equipment, you will likely look more like a pro than those without. Your work may not look professional, but that is all together another subject and not one the OP asked about. Nope that is not what the OP said Chris. He actually said which lens will make his photos look pro. And the answer to that is no lens will make your photos look professional if you have no clue what you are doing.
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the lonely photographer
Posts: 2342
Beverly Hills, California, US
A-M-P wrote: Learn with what you have now. Once you know your camera and how to manipulate light, Then I say you are ready to invest in a pro lens. You have no idea how many crap photos I have seen taken with the best pro gear. People want to run before they can crawl. If you are asking for a lens that will give you pro looking photos, that right there tells me that doesn't matter what lens you have you will get the same results. The equipment doesn't give you pro looking photos the person working the camera does. if the guy is ready,willing and able to buy top tier equipment, and his work is not up to par, he sure as hell can't blame the gear. The only thing left is self improvement. There is nothing wrong with finding out you don't know what the hell you're doing, but you have to admit first you suck.
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A-M-P
Posts: 18465
Orlando, Florida, US
the lonely photographer wrote: if the guy is ready,willing and able to buy top tier equipment, and his work is not up to par, he sure as hell can't blame the gear. The only thing left is self improvement. There is nothing wrong with finding out you don't know what the hell you're doing, but you have to admit first you suck. I have this problem with my BF he keeps telling me his camera sucks and that he wants a better one because he gets blurry pictures and I tell him is not that your camera sucks is that YOU suck and a better camera or better lens won't change a thing. I mean I could give the OP options but it will be a matter of time before we see another thread saying you guys lied to me my photos still look exactly the same they don't look anymore PRO than they did before.
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Giacomo Cirrincioni
Posts: 22232
Stamford, Connecticut, US
A-M-P wrote: Learn with what you have now. Once you know your camera and how to manipulate light, Then I say you are ready to invest in a pro lens. You have no idea how many crap photos I have seen taken with the best pro gear. People want to run before they can crawl. If you are asking for a lens that will give you pro looking photos, that right there tells me that doesn't matter what lens you have you will get the same results. The equipment doesn't give you pro looking photos the person working the camera does. the lonely photographer wrote: if the guy is ready,willing and able to buy top tier equipment, and his work is not up to par, he sure as hell can't blame the gear. The only thing left is self improvement. There is nothing wrong with finding out you don't know what the hell you're doing, but you have to admit first you suck. Except most don't. They continue to focus on gear instead of an education. When all is said and done they have spent a fortune on a system to take photos they could have taken with a kit setup. And, really, for what most here do (post photos online and that's it) even an entry level camera and kit lens is good enough for most required results. My vote would be to get a nice 50mm prime and leave it attached to the camera for the next year. Do everything you can with that lens, study everything you can about photography and apply that learning to that lens. Then move on to another prime lens.
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eybdoog
Posts: 2647
New York, New York, US
Giacomo Cirrincioni wrote: Except most don't. They continue to focus on gear instead of an education. When all is said and done they have spent a fortune on a system to take photos they could have taken with a kit setup. And, really, for what most here do (post photos online and that's it) even an entry level camera and kit lens is good enough for most required results. My vote would be to get a nice 50mm prime and leave it attached to the camera for the next year. Do everything you can with that lens, study everything you can about photography and apply that learning to that lens. Then move on to another prime lens. ^^ agreed. and if he is going to get a lens, a single 50mm prime is the best way to learn. I remember when one of my professors made me do that back in the day. I can't tell you how much that it helps to make you think about composition and technique with one lens. It is how I teach students in workshops that I have taught as well.
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theBeachStrober
Posts: 885
Robertsdale, Alabama, US
the lonely photographer wrote: if you bother to read the subsequent posts ,he did not mind to spend money on whatever he chose, and who appointed you chief financial officer to decide how to handle another's fiscal business. Now that is arrogance. There is no explicit request on how allocate his resources, you took it upon yourself to even suggest that. It's his money and it's none of your damn business nor anyone else on how the op should spend it. The op never asked for those opinions, stick to the point asked. I did read the follow up responses by the OP and he said he wanted his pictures to look like a pro. A new lens isn't going to do that but learning the basics of photography will. When that is done, he or any other beginner photographer will not have to ask what lens to get, they will know. The OP asked a question about what lens to get and how to make pictures look like a pro. I gave my opinion on both, yet you have not. You have decided to launch a crusade against me instead of answering the OP's questions. I think it's ironic you are busting on me because in your opinion I didn't answer the question yet you haven't even offered ANY help. That's arrogance. And really, for a beginner who asks this kind of question, is there really a consensus on which lens to get based on the suggestions? Is it any clearer? I imagine the OP is long gone by now so we are just talking amongst ourselves anyway.
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Dan D Lyons Imagery
Posts: 3447
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Desmond Lin wrote: hi everyone, just taken this hobby recently and am wondering which nikon lens is good for prof photoshoot. there are just so many types of lens and am really interested to find out which is the best lens with prof shoots. im using D3200. guys help advise. many thanks ) I haven't shot any professors yet, but on my camera I usually favor my 135mm f/2 DC. It really depends on the circumstances though, naturally. For your cropper, an AF-S 24-70 f/2.8 would suit well. On a budget for a Portraiture-shoot an 85mm AF-S 1.8 works, yet only having 7 blades it may create a more 'literal' look than you desire from a Portraiture-image. On my D90 (screw-drive AF-motor), I adored my 85mm f/1.8D. 9-blades, and faster focusing than my AF-S G-version IMHO alone; Ðanny DBIphotography Toronto (Blog On Site) DBImagery Toronto (Website) “Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes.” ~Oscar Wilde
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the lonely photographer
Posts: 2342
Beverly Hills, California, US
JonPhoto wrote: I did read the follow up responses by the OP and he said he wanted his pictures to look like a pro. A new lens isn't going to do that but learning the basics of photography will. When that is done, he or any other beginner photographer will not have to ask what lens to get, they will know. The OP asked a question about what lens to get and how to make pictures look like a pro. I gave my opinion on both, yet you have not. You have decided to launch a crusade against me instead of answering the OP's questions. I think it's ironic you are busting on me because in your opinion I didn't answer the question yet you haven't even offered ANY help. That's arrogance. And really, for a beginner who asks this kind of question, is there really a consensus on which lens to get based on the suggestions? Is it any clearer? I imagine the OP is long gone by now so we are just talking amongst ourselves anyway. The op might call the guy that does passport pictures a pro , or for that matter the guy that takes family pictures of kids sitting in Santas lap. Whatever his definition or standard of pro is his not ours. What irks me is your audacity and arrogance to even suggest that by asking a simple question he is not ready for a "pro" lens. You sit in judgement of people, who the hell you think you are telling him he's not ready for a pro lens because he asked?
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the lonely photographer
Posts: 2342
Beverly Hills, California, US
Giacomo Cirrincioni wrote: A-M-P wrote: Learn with what you have now. Once you know your camera and how to manipulate light, Then I say you are ready to invest in a pro lens. You have no idea how many crap photos I have seen taken with the best pro gear. People want to run before they can crawl. If you are asking for a lens that will give you pro looking photos, that right there tells me that doesn't matter what lens you have you will get the same results. The equipment doesn't give you pro looking photos the person working the camera does. Except most don't. They continue to focus on gear instead of an education. When all is said and done they have spent a fortune on a system to take photos they could have taken with a kit setup. And, really, for what most here do (post photos online and that's it) even an entry level camera and kit lens is good enough for most required results. My vote would be to get a nice 50mm prime and leave it attached to the camera for the next year. Do everything you can with that lens, study everything you can about photography and apply that learning to that lens. Then move on to another prime lens. photographers. GWCS are subject to the effects of Darwinism, if they continue to suck after spending shitloads of money, who cares? Unless you are competing with sucky photographers, maybe you need a better game plan. Frankly I like sucky photographers. They make me look good!!!! Lol
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theBeachStrober
Posts: 885
Robertsdale, Alabama, US
the lonely photographer wrote: The op might call the guy that does passport pictures a pro , or for that matter the guy that takes family pictures of kids sitting in Santas lap. Whatever his definition or standard of pro is his not ours. What irks me is your audacity and arrogance to even suggest that by asking a simple question he is not ready for a "pro" lens. You sit in judgement of people, who the hell you think you are telling him he's not ready for a pro lens because he asked? And you still haven't answered the OP's questions. You are correct that we don't know what the OP's definition of a pro is, but I don't see too many photographers posting passport pictures or assembly line kids with Santa pics. The OP asked in a public forum of a website that features model and fashion photography. He also said he wanted to take pictures like the one he sees here, make them look like they were taken by a pro. It tells me he isn't really interested in passport photography. To get pro looks, you don't need expensive pro gear. You need to learn the basics. If it makes you feel better to keep attacking me then knock yourself out but do try to keep it on topic and maybe give your input into helping the OP or any other beginner that may be reading. I am not sitting in judgment, I am encouraging him or any other beginner to study photography and not get caught up in chasing after gear. That is all.
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theBeachStrober
Posts: 885
Robertsdale, Alabama, US
the lonely photographer wrote: photographers. GWCS are subject to the effects of Darwinism, if they continue to suck after spending shitloads of money, who cares? Unless you are competing with sucky photographers, maybe you need a better game plan. Frankly I like sucky photographers. They make me look good!!!! Lol Who are you to sit in judgement of what is and isn't GWCS
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the lonely photographer
Posts: 2342
Beverly Hills, California, US
JonPhoto wrote: Who are you to sit in judgement of what is and isn't GWCS I am a card carrying GWC, and damn proud of it! I produce plenty of half ass mediocre work, I spent shitloads of money of equipment despite what people of your well intentioned ilk advise. If I think I need something, I borrow it, make it, or buy it. Once I asked a question regarding the feasibility of two brands of digital backs and opinions of each, and lo and behold a respondent wrote a similar diatribe as yours advising me to learn photography basics. I shoot Canon and Nikon, though my MF camera just blows away my best "L" lens, I have a feeling our OP will eventually upgrade his camera as well, there's no such thing as too much camera, it's whether you can lug it around and soon find out it's no fun to and eventually start walking sideways from habit. coming from a GWC
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theBeachStrober
Posts: 885
Robertsdale, Alabama, US
the lonely photographer wrote: I am a card carrying GWC, and damn proud of it! I produce plenty of half ass mediocre work, I spent shitloads of money of equipment despite what people of your well intentioned ilk advise. If I think I need something, I borrow it, make it, or buy it. Once I asked a question regarding the feasibility of two brands of digital backs and opinions of each, and lo and behold a respondent wrote a similar diatribe as yours advising me to learn photography basics. I shoot Canon and Nikon, though my MF camera just blows away my best "L" lens, I have a feeling our OP will eventually upgrade his camera as well, there's no such thing as too much camera, it's whether you can lug it around and soon find out it's no fun to and eventually start walking sideways from habit. coming from a GWC Awesome, now instead of your continued judgements about me, how about actually answering the OP if I am not doing it in a way that makes you unhappy.
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Robb Mann
Posts: 12327
Baltimore, Maryland, US
Desmond Lin wrote: wow cool, thanks for the info ) It appears that the OP had the question answered to his satisfaction back on Page 1. Clearly there are many ways to interpret his question, and I think we have now explored every conceivable reasonable variation on the OP's original query. This is an industry forum, so please remember to keep your answers here constructive. The goal of this forum is to help each other.
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