Hi folks This thread is for anyone requesting information regarding the forum based contests or just a question related to contests in general . Anyone can answer questions posed . PLEASE BE AWARE THIS IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR THE POTD18+ DISCUSSION THREAD Which can be found here https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=547713 Jan 13 14 07:43 am Link What happened to the Photographer of the Week contest? Will there still be a photographer of the year competition? Jan 21 14 12:58 pm Link Flux Vision Images wrote: That contest ended last October when the Host left MM. Jan 21 14 10:46 pm Link An observation .. Some of the forum contests are looking Jankie .. All forums should have the quality as the models, photogs, and artists produce and nothing less then that. Jan 22 14 10:41 pm Link John Carrasco wrote: Well said, I couldn't agree more! Jan 22 14 10:59 pm Link John Carrasco wrote: John.. send me a CAM with the details and we'll get things working properly. Jan 22 14 11:11 pm Link John Carrasco wrote: Agreed, and the number of them is out of control. What is next, "Best glamour black and white with fuzzy blanket of the day image?" When a contest can't get more than 3-5 images a day submitted, maybe it is time to end it. Jan 23 14 03:09 am Link P O T T S wrote: :-) Jan 23 14 03:33 am Link P O T T S wrote: What about model of the day that normally gets only 3 to 5 images a day .do we end that ? because of a lack of participants , we try our best but only the photographers seem to be interested in entering contest and about 6 models regulary enter . Jan 23 14 05:41 am Link SJH photography wrote: I'm agreeing with all that's been said so far. I entered the POTD18+ a couple of years ago and won. First photo contest I had ever entered. I thought it was a really cool thing until I realized that there were only a handful of entries and the entries were usually by the same people. Jan 23 14 06:02 am Link I think even the "easy to win" contests are fun, but I am someone who is also confused by the number of contests recently that seem very disorganized, confusing and frustrating. Jan 23 14 06:26 am Link SJH photography wrote: Yes. If there are half a million profiles and 5 enter the model of the day contest, perhaps the contest does not carry with it the gravitas to make people want to enter. Jan 23 14 07:03 am Link Erin Koski wrote: It is so confusing right now and so many of them. Most have the same start and stop times, voting times. Some of the new ones claim to cater to "late night west coast artists" so they have later voting times. It is simply too much to keep straight any more. Jan 23 14 07:07 am Link If it was possible to standardize on the voting times across all contests I think that would be useful. The majority of the well trafficked contests all use a common midnight eastern end-of-day/start-of-day, along with entries being received/voting beginning at Noon pacific. This is simple to follow along even if the winner isn't announced until the next day. Extending some of the daily contests into multiple days to try and attract more participants would be an indicator of contests that don't have enough interest or participation. I agree that there should be a new contest probation period of 90 days to get it established. However if there were a few common rules across all of them, I think it would increase, rather than decrease participation as it would eliminate many folks wondering where in the day the entry/voting cycle is, and reduce the most common barrier to entry. As with most things in life, people are generally lazy. Even with 1/2 Million plus accounts, probably less than 10% are really active , of those, many are just watchers. Look at the daily participation in the MM sponsored POTD contest. Probably only a total daily vote count of 150-250 on about 30-40 entries. Very very low turn out based on the membership numbers. Jan 23 14 08:03 am Link Why is there always so much whining an disagreeing on anything possible to complain about? There is simply no way that everyone is going to be happy with all contests and what time they end or how many participants are in the contest. Someone always complains about something. Yes there are many contests in different areas of modeling and photography which makes it better for everyone. Some people only like to enter one contest and some like myself like to enter as many as they feel they can on that day. Sadly to say I am working on the participants to enter into my All New MUA of the Week Contest. It takes some time to get the word out to the ones that like to enter. Its negativity that scares some people away from entering any contest. I am open to any suggestions or complaints on information that you feel will make this contest and the Model Of the Day contest better. I am Co-Host of MOTD and there are days that we get many entering and other days few. I've checked and this is happening in some of the other contests as well. I don't think some of you realize how much time and work goes into running a contest for hosts. We do this because we enjoy it. All of us have jobs yet we make sure we are awake regardless to close and open the contests. Jan 23 14 04:01 pm Link Erin Koski wrote: Honest question... what would you have us do to make the forum-based contests less confusing and less disorganized? Jan 23 14 04:22 pm Link Personal opinion is that there are way too many contests and that it has watered down the thrill of a win. Just like a carnival hawker .... STEP RIGHT UP, EVERYBODY'S A WINNER. Jan 23 14 04:24 pm Link OK - so we have some suggestions: 1 - standardize the start/finish (and submitting/voting) times 2 - standardize the rules across the board Jan 23 14 04:27 pm Link I think you should come up with a contest where the voting in done on a selected staff of photographers and models, maybe six or seven that will be able to collaborate and vote on the image of the day in the categories selected. instead of having glamour and fashion of the day, pick a day for each categories example Mon- Fashion of the day, Tues Glamour of the day, Wed Lingerie of the day, Thru- Casual Shot Of The Day, Fri-Sexy Of The Day...... Rest On The Weekends... Call Them Showcase's, I think the images should have something to do with and Model Or Photographer associated with a real model..... This Is Model Mayhem.... My 2 cents..... Why is their a Dollar sign on keyboard and no cents... Jan 23 14 04:52 pm Link I'd like to see contests with clear and easy to understand rules. I like consistency, but believe there should be some flexibility too. Making instructions easy to find and easy to read/understand is crucial in my opinion. I do not feel like all of our contests are clear and easy to understand right now. I think added consistency in how the individual contests are organized would help as well. Right now when you open up a contest thread, it may feel like a surprise in terms of how it's set up, where you find information, yesterday's winners, other previous winners, winners tokens, etc. I'd like to see a number of contests that feels manageable and does not make folks click on "contests" and go "Woah! How do I even find anything or navigate through this?!" I think this confusion/negative reaction is happening far too much right now and I think it reduces participation in contests when things are hard to find. I don't think every contest that can't get 5 (or some other determination of) entries a day should be closed - I think the contest hosts have a good feel for when a contest is alive and when it is struggling. I've seen contests that are struggling go from a daily contest to a weekly contest and have a good, strong support that way. Additionally sometimes contests are slow during holidays or other times and pick back up later. My 2¢ Jan 23 14 06:35 pm Link - SMASHphotos - wrote: I would say about 90% of the contests run on the same start/finish time , so it would not be a biggie to standardize all the contests ,but also consider time zones ,some of the contests are run by folks with vastly different time zones so there ability to run a contest could be affected . P O T T S wrote: Its only a few of the newer contests that allow this , the officiall MM contests dont allow it and neither should the foum based contests .But thats my personal opinion - SMASHphotos - wrote: AS you state most are lazy and cant be bothered to enter .So is this not unfair , on the members that do want to particiate on a daily bassis.Albeit that entries are small in number . Tara Jayne Mullins wrote: I totally agree with this you cant please all of the people all of the time . JoJo wrote: Can we add to that No links to images , if its 18+ use it in MM.s potd18+ only or for a contest that is totally link based only eg Fetish of the week Jan 23 14 06:36 pm Link At some point the idea was floated around that contest thread titles should all be standardized, all read the exact same way (take out "MM" or "NEW" and stuff). I would like to note that right now the different title formats is about the only way I can actually find anything. I know that certain contests start with MM and some start with their name and... So unless we par down the number of contests that are active, I would personally keep the different thread name formats. Jan 23 14 06:41 pm Link SJH, what is an image? What does multiple mean? Why are some entries with multiple images allowed? It is that simple. Either specifically state what it not allowed or remove the rule. Words mean things. It is the wording or the rule that is the issue. The mods have simply elected to create their own definition of the words multiple and image. Jan 23 14 08:39 pm Link P O T T S wrote: If someone were to enter a comp-card... that's a multiple image and unacceptable. Jan 23 14 11:01 pm Link OK - so we have some more suggestions: 1 - standardize the start/finish (and submitting/voting) times 2 - standardize the rules across the board 3 - no M/18+ images or links in the forum-based contests 4 - some method of "suspending" habitual violators. Jan 23 14 11:13 pm Link Jan 23 14 11:19 pm Link JoJo wrote: Well the current rule number 4, is far more than 10 words, lol. But it contains this: Jan 24 14 06:34 am Link P O T T S wrote: I don't think any contest should end. Every contest is different and attracts different people. Some like a contest than others won't. That's why is good IMO to have different themes contests, it gives more choice to everyone. Even if only a few members enter a contest, why take it away if they enjoy it, its not harming anyone. JoJo wrote: I agree. JoJo wrote: There's so many contests that its confusing to look through each thread. I think if we had a more visual impact, if would be much easier to navigate through. What I would suggest is to have something like this: Its plain and easy to look at. Just click on the contest you want to enter, simple. The same would apply for the weekly and monthly contests so there would be 3 categories (daily-weekly-monthly) so it would look more organised as well.Then a MOD can name this thread (for example) 'Enter Contests and Vote Here' and pin it to the main board of the forum-based contests. It would also help to have the codes of those linked-badges posted in the main contest page of the site as it will attract more viewers to the forum-based contests. Note that the link to the daily thread contests will go to the main contest page so the viewers still would have to look through each threads to look for the contest. Hosts of the daily thread contests could keep it this way or decide to only use one thread which would be linked to their badge. Jan 24 14 06:55 am Link Marlene Potfer wrote: I really like the idea but its not feasible in the greater scheme of things . While i applaud your work in creating it there is major drawbacks Jan 24 14 07:25 am Link What if the contests where pinned in place, in the order the contest was started, in the contest forum. Plain text, no stars, bolds, "new and improved". Just "Image of the Day, Original", "Model of the Day", etc? I was going to suggest alphabetical order, but then someone would want to start the AAA Absolute Amazing Image of the Day. Jan 24 14 07:53 am Link SJH photography wrote: Stevie I think that no matter what suggestions are made, we just can't please everybody all of the time. There's always going to be someone who's not happy with something. I still think that doing it this way, it would look a lot tidier than it currently does (which is what many are complaining about). As for the order, I really didn't think this would cause a major problem to any Hosts. Its not like we have to go through pages and pages of badges, there's just 13 (at the moment) and its all there, on the same page, we don't even need to scroll down, we see them all at once! So if a Host has a problem having their contest at the 'bottom' I would happily put my contests at the 'bottom' row! I really don't see what the big deal is.. Its not a case of 'my contest is better that yours, its on the top', but its about finding a way to make the contest forum less cluttered, and I would think that every Hosts would understand that too. IMHO, it would be a lot easier to navigate through the contests and it would work better than it currently does. Ok your answer to this is have them continually move about. reasons against this are 1. It was mentioned a little while back that something like this would be possible. And if not possible anymore, then as I've mentioned above, I really don't see the big deal having all the badges constantly in the same order. We still see all of the badges at once and it still looks more organised and easier to nagivate through. "Note that the link to the daily thread contests will go to the main contest page so the viewers still would have to look through each threads to look for the contest. Hosts of the daily thread contests could keep it this way or decide to only use one thread which would be linked to their badge." . IMHO ,all contests should be name of contest only , none of this silly stars, asterisks, etc and definitely none of this "New" , how can it be new when its 3 months old . I agree with this. P O T T S wrote: Jan 24 14 10:27 am Link P O T T S wrote: Why not pin them in age so it would be potd oe first , it was the original and even though it has changed host several times , it still was the original , even pre dates MM very own potd and potd 18= P O T T S wrote: Never a truer word spoken in jest .Just of to write a cam lol Marlene Potfer wrote: How so very true some arent happy unless they are having a moan Jan 24 14 10:33 am Link Just thinking... Along with standardizing the contest names... Would this add a little brand recognition to the individual contests? I don't know if this is possible or if MM/IB will permit but I have asked in the MOD room. Jan 24 14 01:15 pm Link JoJo wrote: That's a great idea, I like it Jan 24 14 02:25 pm Link JoJo wrote: Marlene Potfer wrote: Just received a response from MM/IB... Jan 24 14 03:15 pm Link I would happily have Dark Image of the Day at the bottom if it helps. There does need to be some sort of provision for contests that start a new thread every day. We have two, and I think both of them work best with this style. Jan 24 14 03:36 pm Link Erin Koski wrote: Would it work better for you if we had a directory for each of your previous contests? Jan 24 14 10:17 pm Link JoJo wrote: Ah that's a shame, it was a really good idea! Jan 25 14 07:34 am Link I have no problem with the 18+ rule however my Fetish of the week is strictly a url contest and most of the entries are 18+ and it is going very well so in saying that maybe we could figure something out to put it as a 18+ contest Jan 25 14 07:51 am Link Patreshas Editing wrote: if you look here Patresha Jan 25 14 11:17 am Link |